Debate "Potpourri"

April - posted on 12/02/2010 ( 19 moms have responded )

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The purpose of this thread is to choose a topic that you are completely passionate about and argue the opposite stance! I'll start! I'm pretty much anti-formula except in the case of medical necessity, so I will be debating the pros of infant formula.

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April - posted on 12/03/2010

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@ Lisa It was very hard for me to write about formula. In real life, I would support NOT formula except if a child is literally going to die without it.



I kept erasing my comments and writing them again...it was THAT difficult. I would never suggest formula to a new mother, nor will any of my children ever have a taste of it unless it's life or death.



On Debate teams in high schools and middle schools, often times students are given a specific topic AND a specific side to argue. They are awarded for how strong they make an argument, even if they are against the stance.



**Yes you can do a sarcastic side if you want. I know this debate is hard and Lisa...I actually did throw up in my mouth a little!!

Katherine - posted on 12/02/2010

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Cry it out also known as baby sleep training, and the Ferber method is very effective in getting a child to sleep. It should be noted that Richard Ferber never intended for it to be called CIO.

It teaches the child that his/her needs will not be met because they are crying. Many people think CIO means to leave your child for an unspecified amount of time: this is not true.

The child cries for a SPECIFIED amount of time, gets soothed by your voice, and then you leave again. You then let them cry longer the second time and so forth. The crying is simply unavoidable.

It is about mastering the skill of falling asleep on your own. It is also about soothing yourself back to sleep after waking in the middle of the night.

So contrary to popular belief "Ferberizing" does NOT mean leaving baby to cry for hours, it means leaving them alone for a few minutes, going in comforting. leaving for a few minutes and so on.





Wow, I did learn something....still wouldn't dream of it. My daughter sleeps with me :)

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I was always taught in debate classes, that if you can't debate the other side, you lose a lot of credibility to your side. It helps to know where the other side are coming from, it gives you a chance to anticipate conflict, points of strength and weakness. Plus, you might actually learn something! Never too late to learn and grow as a human. I wish this aspect of debating was used more often on this site, rather than the bandying about of opinion that seems to dominate most threads or rather most of the contributions to most threads by a few individuals. Just had to throw in my two cents...

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Katherine - posted on 12/02/2010

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Oh yes, those posts infuriate me. "Oh now they can see the scenery!"

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Well, true safety is not something to be debated since it's a law. But you & I have both seen posts that defend a position that "oh she is so much happier now that I turned her forward at 6 months", or "he grew out of his car seat so fast that he needs a booster at age 2 1/2". So yes, it's a law, but I suppose if it's the one thing I am passionate about, the yeah, car seats. All the other heated topics-well not really my business to care what another parent does in order to raise her child.

Nikki - posted on 12/02/2010

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Unless you live in Australia Katherine, then it's pretty much do as you please as far as car seats go grrrrr.

Can I do a sarcastic other side of a debate? ;P just kidding!

Katherine - posted on 12/02/2010

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Well, I think that's next to impossible to debate based on safety issues. Plus it's the law. Unless you were to say that kids don't have to abide by what the AAP recommends.

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I wouldn;t say I am so overly passionate about parenting topics becasue I respect other parenting choices. But car seat safety is somthing I do feel strongly about and I will NEVER advocate for turning a 6 month old forward facing becasue their legs are crunched, or NEVER think it's acceptable for a 3 year old to be in a seatbelt booster. Hell, I even kept my 5 year old in his 5-point harness seat until this summer, and I had my reservations about letting him ride in a full-back setbelt booster. Only because he is so tall and over 50 pounds, I relented. I will never think it is acceptable for a child to ride in the front seat of a car. Sorry-just can't debate the opposing view.

Nikkole - posted on 12/02/2010

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lets see im passionate about being a stay at home mom but some people i know make nasty comments about me not working

Katherine - posted on 12/02/2010

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I'm very passionate about CIO and I don't think I can debate the other side either!! I'm with you Jackie-Rae!!

Sarah - posted on 12/02/2010

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This is an interesting thread! :) I'll have to give it some thought & come back later...

Minnie - posted on 12/02/2010

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Gah, I can't do this, April. Kudos to you for being able to do that but the thing I am most passionate about I see as a human rights issue and it makes me want to vomit to argue the other side. So I won't.



And I understand what you're saying, Fiona. I can empathize with the feelings of the other side but I just can't argue for it coming from my mouth.

Jackie - posted on 12/02/2010

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You are very right Fiona. i totally understand but I am so hell bent on that particular topic. trust me when i say I know what the other side of the agruement is, i just don't agree with it

Jackie - posted on 12/02/2010

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I am very passionate about vaccinations. I don't thinki have it in me to debate the other side.

April - posted on 12/02/2010

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topic: breast v formula

Infant formula has come a long way since the mid to late 1800's when families were making their own homemade formula. Back in the day, such families would mix cow's milk, water, cream, and sugar or honey in a certain way, thinking it would come close to human milk.
Today, however, formula has been designed to match breastmilk as close as humanly possible. The prebiotics, nucleotides, and carotenoids found in breastmilk are also found in formula. Both breastmilk and formula include DHA, as well. The fact that formula DOES share some ingredients with breastmilk is not the only pro. Other pros of infant formula: formula can save the life of a premature baby who isn't ready to nurse yet and formula can be administered on a schedule. Also, if the mother herself has health issues, she would not have to put her own health at risk in order to breastfeed. Long story short: formula is not poison. While it isn't for every baby and every mother, it does have a place in the world of infant nutrition.

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