Diagnose my psychosis- not a debate

Minnie - posted on 09/17/2011 ( 23 moms have responded )

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So for as long as I can remember I have a hard time going grocery shopping or to the mall, anything similar, things like conventions, etc.

I get fatigued within 15 minutes, my head hurts, double vision, my throat gets sore, and my thinking gets foggy. Lasts for about 30 minutes after leaving wherever I was. My husband always wants to know why I go through the grocery store like a mad woman.

I went to the NH kids' consignment thing this morning and lasted all of 15 minutes- managed to buy a winter coat for Evelyn and then high-tailed it out of there. The poor check-out lady probably thought I hated her- I bet my expression wasn't very friendly, lol.

Am I nuts?

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Lady Heather - posted on 09/17/2011

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Could be so many things. I have similar problems when shopping indoors and for me it is a combination of allergies (soooo many perfumes when people collect indoors!) and photosensitive epilepsy (lighting in these places sucks). I'm not nuts. I would start investigating possible medical causes first and then if that checks out you might pursue the mental health side of things. Not that mental health isn't medical...but you know what I mean.

Sal - posted on 09/17/2011

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i know the noise can get to me sometimes...i recently went to a different centre, the music was loud, evey shop had its own music competing, the people were then louder to get heard, it was really busy too, i couldn't hear people talking to me, i just could't wait to leave and then my head just left me there all alone.....lol with out being able to hear the voices in my head i'm lost.....i really felt a bit disorinated or drunk...i am going to get my hearing checked it really scared me..

Shannintipton - posted on 09/17/2011

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I didnt read all the posts. Sorry. One of the problems is over stimulation. Grocery store. All that advertisements are trying to get your attention and it is working. You are not nuts. Over stimulation is not good for you. I take meds and it helps a little. I just try to stay away from situations like that. It can be hard though. I wish I had the magic bullet for you. Good luck.

Elfrieda - posted on 09/17/2011

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It might be the chemicals, either what they use to clean the place, or the chemicals on the new clothes, or just the building off-gassing. You might just be extra sensitive to them, and when there are lots of people breathing up all the good air that's left, it feels worse!

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maybe agoraphobia? Do you hate/afraid of going outside? I would defin talk to someone about this! Best wishes!

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Minnie - posted on 09/27/2011

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I think I'm going to just go move to the Yukon and live in a yurt. Problem solved. :)

Brittany - posted on 09/27/2011

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Something you may want to try is going to the grocery store late at night or early in the morning when not a lot of people are there. This will give you time to just cope with the close quarters of the shelves.

Your irritability is going to be caused by the stress of knowing what is coming. You already know, before you get to the grocery store, that you are about to freak out and you do not want to. Which in turn causes you to well...freak out. Before you go in try taking a few very deep breathes and telling yourself it is ok. You are just picking up some food and going home. No big deal.

Have you tried that yet?

Brittany - posted on 09/27/2011

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Lisa,

Just want to make this clear I am not a health professional.

This sounds like it maybe a mix of social anxiety and claustrophobia. The place you have mentioned, the grocery store, mall, and the consignment expo, all require people to be in very close contact with one another. This makes some people very very nervous, top that with a panic attack from people being close to you and bam you are in overload and blackout. Blacking out can be a cause of your body being over stimulated and trying to cope with getting itself under control. This is called a negative feedback system.

Humans mostly use negative feedback systems to maintain homeostasis. For example when we get hot we do not just let our bodies heat up we sweat and the cools down our bodies. Like in your situation your body become anxiety overloaded and to help maintain a safe level it blacks out to overcome.

A Positive feedback would a woman giving birth. Instead of the body saying "no no stop this process" it says "yes yes keep contracting".

I hope that maybe this help shed some light on what your body is doing when you have these moments.

To answer your original question, no you are not nuts.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/27/2011

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Sounds like public anxiety.....no clue. Is it like an anxiety attack?

Minnie - posted on 09/26/2011

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I think it's a combination of things. Probably overstimulation- I tend to prefer isolation over lots of people. And too much light polution, noise, etc.

Stifler's - posted on 09/26/2011

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Or maybe claustrophobia to the extreme. I have that nd i feel like I'm going to die when my head gets caught under something or we go through a tunnel in a train.

Stifler's - posted on 09/26/2011

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I hate fluro lights too and I can't think straight when I'm doing groceries. Eve when it's clothes and stuff all I'm thinking is I WANT TO GO HOME

Valerie - posted on 09/26/2011

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I have the same thing! Especially in grocery check-outs - they're the worst!! I zone out, freeze, drop things...dry mouth, forget to breathe... it sucks. I have nothing to offer aside from you're not alone!

Karla - posted on 09/17/2011

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You might also look into Auditory Processing Disorder (or some other Processing Disorder.) My son has a mild case and he kind of zones out in busy areas. (That goes along with lights and sounds and smells issues that others have mentioned.)



I would also check into phobias - there are so many. An anti-anxiety medication before shopping might help.



I wonder if you consider the things that bug you a little at home, like lights, or sounds or smells -- that might help you pinpoint the problem when these things are magnified.



Good luck.

Minnie - posted on 09/17/2011

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That's really interesting, I never considered it might be something actually physical in the buildings that's causing the problem.

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I'm wondering if it's an issue with the lights. Every place you've described is a place with reflective floors and lots of glare.

Becky - posted on 09/17/2011

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I'd lean more towards something medical too - maybe a sensitivity to fragrances that doesn't bother you when you're outdoors because it's not so confined. Or something about the recirculated air, or maybe even the lighting or something. Do you get this way when you ride public transportation too?
Hope you can figure it out!

Ez - posted on 09/17/2011

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I agree with Heather. I would rule out any physical explanations before you start labelling yourself nuts lol.

What you're describing is not typical anxiety/panic symptoms at all (coming from someone who used to have the panic attacks so bad I would pass out).

Minnie - posted on 09/17/2011

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Hmmm, yeah, only more so, like I get overcome with flu-like symptoms within 15 minutes. But it's always been like this for me, even as a teenager.



It's got to be the crowd. I went to the Boston Museum of Science last year on an off day and there were only a few people there. We totally enjoyed it. But we went again on a day when every school in the area decided to do a field trip there and I went bonkers almost immediately. What a waste.



I wonder if the fresh air, sun and breeze makes it easier for me to handle a crowded outdoor event.

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Lisa- I can relate. Honestly, I am not the same person as I was 10 years ago. For me, it's not an issue of claustrophobia at all. But more of a sense of fogginess, forgetfulness, fatigue/drained of energy. I can wander up and down grocery aisles with a list but get so disoriented. This past year it was getting to the point where I would forget half my list that hubby took over the major shopping. Is that how you feel sometimes?

If you can find some answers, please share! I just want to be my old self!

Minnie - posted on 09/17/2011

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No, I love being outside. But I get these annoying physical symptoms when I'm inside a building with a lot of people. County fair? The beach? No problem. But if it's in a building I freak after a few minutes.



It just gets annoying. I try to buy stuff online or only spend 10 minutes in a store, or I go to a farmer's market.



Yeah it's the combination crowded/in doors.

Sarah - posted on 09/17/2011

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Is it when it's crowded? Or would you feel the same even if it was really quiet?

I'm terrible in crowded places, I get the same sort of thing as you do.

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