discounts for military service members

Rosie - posted on 10/26/2010 ( 73 moms have responded )

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today at work, i was in the back office where most of our general mangers stuff is. i work at a large home improvement store. anyhoo, i noticed letters that get sent to our general office from guests complaining or praising something about our store. i noticed one complaining that we don't give discounts to members of the military. i started thinking about this, and i don't really know how i feel. should we give them or not. obvious answer to most is a big HELL YEAH!! but why? there are MANY members of our community or country that put their life on the line EVERYDAY like policemen and firemen. they don't get a discount, and as far as i know havn't ever complained about not getting one. hell, fishermen risk their lives so we can have crab. should we give them discounts too? senior citizens don't get a discount at our store either-we're an equal opportunity bunch of cheapskates.
i don't know, maybe it's the cynic in me working retail for 14 years that makes me feel this way. what do you think?

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Cassie - posted on 10/28/2010

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I understand. I am not down-playing at all the sacrifices that our military and their families make. I am just showing that the sacrifices often cross many occupations that they shouldn't.

While my husband is putting people behind bars and making them go to court, he is serving the public and the greater good and doesn't deserve that disrespect any more than a military family.

Jodi - posted on 10/26/2010

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"Others get to go home. Yes they should be shown respect and honor, too, but soldiers have to actually go far from home and spend a long time out there."

Maybe, but people CHOOSE to go into the military knowing full well what that may entail. It doesn't make them any more entitled to discounts than anyone else.

Cassie - posted on 10/28/2010

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Tah said... "Having your spouse spit at, you talked to and attacked because of what they do..."

Our family deals with that daily as well because my husband is a police officer. I don't view it as anything more of a sacrifice than any other public service job. When working as a police officer in an inner city area, most people view the police as the bad guys. They memorize the officers' off duty cars and threaten them and their families daily. This, however disturbing and scary, is just an expected part of the job that we knew when he applied. It doesn't make the sacrifices any greater or less.

Jodi - posted on 10/26/2010

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" I don't see why it's such a big deal to some whether the store has a military discount."



Because it's out of the store owner's pocket, so the store owner has a right to make that decision. Do you know how marginal running your own business can be? Why should they be forced into a situation where they have to give away what margin there is (i.e. feeding their own family) because someone in the military feels entitled to a discount purely because they are in the military?

Mary - posted on 10/28/2010

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But, Tah, that's true of ALL who chose work that provides a public service, from the military to those blessed trashmen who pick up all our nasty crap (and are still kind enough to stop and say hi to my toddler while doing so). If no one voluntarily chose any of these jobs, where would we be as a society? Sorry, but I refuse to value one group's contibution as MORE important, or essential, than another's.

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Kelley - posted on 10/29/2010

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As a Military wife I cant say how much we appreciate those discounts. My husband's paycheck is not very big, often we live paycheck to paycheck, we're on WIC and Food Stamps to try and avoid that situation. That being said I cant think of any store, restaurant, what have you that offers a Military disc that does not also have a senior citizen discount. I also think you make a good point about policemen and firefighters, it would be great if they got the same discount. the only difference I see between their jobs and my husband is that my husband will be way from us for part or all of the year. Either way it's not going to be perfect and some ppl wil feel left out.

Serena - posted on 10/29/2010

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When I married a man in the service I thought I knew what to expect...you learn different. Since we have been married I have grown a greater and greater respect for single mothers. I don't know how they do it but they do and should be applauded for it.
I think we as parents in general make sacrifices for the greater good of our families. Some do it by putting their lives on the line everyday and without them we wouldn't be able to survive as a country, city, or society. All of these people do it because they want to help make this world better and deserve all our gratitude...
So discounts for all :)

C. - posted on 10/28/2010

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"This, however disturbing and scary, is just an expected part of the job that we knew when he applied."

Even though I grew up in a military family, you don't really know what it's going to be like when your own husband signs up. It's much more difficult. I know what you mean about being a police officer in an inner city area. I'm sure it is hard, but at the same time, military spouses usually don't expect to be treated like that when our spouses aren't putting people behind bars and making them go to court. Our spouses are serving the country, sometimes at war and sometimes not. It's hard to see how people react in such a negative way about the military.

Tah - posted on 10/28/2010

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you would be surprised what people don't know about military life and the jobs that are done and what is required. Some comments..not just here let me know that...some comparisons let me know that..some jobs are more dangerous than others...public service...and serving your country are more dangerous than the job of a garbage man and they do require more sacrifice. I watch T.V everyday and almost everyday some servicemeber is losing their life..i don't hear that number with garbage collectors...so that is not a comparison i would make either...that to me is def. apples and oranges. If there weren't enough garbage men i doubt they would have to do a draft, as they were talking about doing a few years ago...



When you chose to put yourself in harms way to serve your country..or to do what you believe is the right thing for your country, not matter what your country's agenda is...That is worth something..Now..i am not saying that miltary are ENTITLED to a discount, but some respect and appreciation is nice. Now you ladies may not know what a family deals with..like having a funeral protested at. Having your spouse spit at, you talked to and attacked because of what they do...so yes it is something that miltary families hold close to the vest. I can't help it and i don't want to help it. that is how i feel....

Heather - posted on 10/28/2010

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the "not common knowledge" they are referring to is the other missions the U.S. army fulfills. I refuse to equate a garbage man with a soldier. Putting your life in danger and doing a job that has the risk of killing you is a far greater service to a country than collecting trash. I can take my own trash to a dump, I can't do what a soldier does on a daily basis. Policemen, firefighters, and military service personell(and those that put their lives in danger to protect the public) make a greater sacrifice than those that don't. Sorry, that's just the way I feel.

Dana - posted on 10/28/2010

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Tah, what is not common knowledge? I don't think Christiana is "teaching" anyone here what they don't already know.

Tah - posted on 10/28/2010

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@Dana..it's actually not common knowledge...everyone keeps saying how people chose to be in the military...thank God they do..or others would probably be drafted...and we also get that noone is entitled..@christina...it's okay...i second what Heather said...just take it in stride....

Rosie - posted on 10/28/2010

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christina, i realize this is very close to you, and i'm not undermining all the work, and sacrifices that our millitary personnel, and their families have done. i have MANY friends who either are in afghanistan right now, or were in iraq. one of my friends is on his second tour of duty. my cousin just left to go to afghanistan last month, his second time in the middle east. i KNOW what these people sacrifice, and what their wives sacrifice. one of them got his wife pregnant the night that he left. fortunately he was able to be home for 2 weeks for the delivery, but she had to raise a child by herself for the first year. i saw her struggles, i was a single mother myself. i know her anguish -its just a different kind.
i have stated that i do think it would be a nice thing if stores did that, i just don't feel people in the military should feel entitled to more than the rest of the population. we all (well, alot of us) have sacrificed alot of things, including our lives for the good of those around us. i just don't deem it fair or really necessary, to expect something in return. that's all. :)

Dana - posted on 10/28/2010

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Christina, again you assume that no one knows about the military. Maybe since you've grown up in the military you don't know that what you keep stating is COMMON knowledge.
I would assume Kati is talking about total time spent away from family's for the average military personnel, not those that make a career out of it.

Mary - posted on 10/28/2010

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Ahhh, so now we need to quantify and qualify the amount and type of sacrifice one makes. I didn't realize it was a competition.



Christina, it's not that I am without knowledge, or even empathy for the lives of military families. My best friend from highschool is an Army wife; my closest friend in the world is an Air Force wife. (Actually, both husbands just retired out this fall after 25 years, and both are veterans of the Persian Gulf). Perhaps their age and experience has given them a more balanced perspective about "sacrifice", appreciation and misplaced feelings of entitlement.



In both cases, these men voluntarily joined the military (and voluntarily stayed in as long as they did). Their wives (my friends) married them knowing their occupations, and what it entailed. They then knowingly had children. This lifestyle was not forced upon them...they lived it because they WANTED and CHOSE to. There must be some positives, rewards, and benefits to being the military if people like them choose to say in long after any initial committment is up. I don't think I'm overly cynical when I say that not all military remain so becaue they are soley driven by an altuistic love of country, and have no care or concern for their personal benefit.



No one is implying that the military and their families don't make sacrifices while fulfilling the job requirements they voluntarily agreed to take on. No one is denying that they should be appreciated. I (and others) are merely stating that they are no more noble, important, or necessary to our country's general well-being than other public servants who also take risks and make sacrifices to do their jobs.



Perhaps your personal stake in this has robbed you of the ability to be impartial, and appreciate that it is not just those in your life situation that pay a price for their spouse's occupation.

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since when is it expected that stores show anyone appreciation for a job they do? Discounts are price discrimination and bad economics, simple as that. NOBODY should get a discount (and my dad, brother and uncle are all military, my sister's a cop and my brother in law is a fireman and yes they are all heroes but just cause someone's a hero doesn't mean they should get a discount!)

C. - posted on 10/28/2010

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I know that, Heather. I'm just saying I don't see anything wrong with stores showing that appreciation.

Heather - posted on 10/27/2010

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@ Christina: Part of the military's sacrifice is that people don't know or appreciate what they do. It really doesn't matter if people know bc that's not why soldiers do it and it shouldn't be. As spouses of military members we have to deal with people not understanding and still smile and nod. We love our soldiers, policemen, firefighters, what have you because they are the kind of people who sacrifice their daily lives to protect others, regardless of the thanks or appreciation. Take comfort in the fact that your husband loves his country and you and let that be enough. ;)

C. - posted on 10/27/2010

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"they do that for 18 months and then they're done-if that. policemen do that 5 or more times a week, for the rest of their lives"



Kati, what kind of world are you living in where 'that's it'??? No, that's NOT it. Navy goes out for 6 months at a time even if there isn't a war. Other branches go overseas even if there isn't a war to try and help other countries and yet some of them STILL die for their country. 'That's it'.. I swear. This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. The military does so much more than most people think. Just b/c you don't hear about it on the news, doesn't mean they don't sacrifice their lives for ours 24/7!!!!

Rosie - posted on 10/27/2010

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No, they don't sacrifice AS much, Jodi. They are not sitting at home for weeks at a time waiting for a phone call just to make sure their loved ones were still alive!

see, that's kindof my point to all this. i DON'T see them or their families sacrificing more than a policeman or fireman. they do that for 18 months and then they're done-if that. policemen do that 5 or more times a week, for the rest of their lives. but heather made a very valid point-nobody's life is worth more than another persons life. they both sacrifice the same thing ultimately. i just don't think one actually sacrifices more or less than the other.

Serena - posted on 10/27/2010

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The main reasons stores give a discount is so you shop there more often. Sure some of the smaller, mom and pop shops do it because they care but large corporations know if you give a discount you will get a return customer. Its not because they "care".
In my experience, if I know I am getting a discount I will go back each time.

Jodi - posted on 10/27/2010

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"I would say the military defends other people from many different countries,"

See, I question that motive too. If that were the motive, it would be equal opportunity defence.

Jodi - posted on 10/27/2010

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"Why does everyone have to clarify what they write? What the heck? Do you all think I'm completely incapable of reading comprehension? This isn't just to you, Jodi. It seems everyone is having their fun with me lately."



Why did you take that so personally? I wasn't clarifying for you personally. I knew my comment might be a bit touchy for some people (NO, not just you), so I wanted to clarify that it was JUST my opinion. If that is the part of my comment that is going to cause a problem, I'll take it out!!

C. - posted on 10/27/2010

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It's not that they disagree, it's what they said that makes me think they don't appreciate the military. You cannot compare the two b/c they are not the same, yet people were still comparing and implying that the hometown heros are better.

And you're right, I did let my personal feelings get a away with me. But you know what, Dana.. You might too if you had ever been in a military spouse's position. It's not easy for either the member or the dependent.

Dana - posted on 10/27/2010

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"No, they don't sacrifice AS much, Jodi. They are not sitting at home for weeks at a time waiting for a phone call just to make sure their loved ones were still alive!"

So you're talking about YOUR sacrifice... It seems you're taking a debate and injecting your personal feelings into it.

You're also projecting your feelings onto how people actually feel. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they don't appreciate the military.

Heather - posted on 10/27/2010

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@Jodi A.: I suppose it depends on your definition of defending your country, but I would say the military defends other people from many different countries, which sets them apart from other public servants in our country. Honestly, it's not worth arguing over bc it doesn't matter who's making more of a sacrifice when people are dying. Giving your life in the service of your country, no matter the occupation, is the ultimate sacrifice. You can't quantitate that.

No one should get a discount just for doing their job. I've never asked if a company had a military discount or if I could get one. I show my military ID when I use my card and if I get a discount great! If not, I was still planning on spending the money, so I'm no worse off than when I started. Leave it up to the store management.

C. - posted on 10/27/2010

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Why does everyone have to clarify what they write? What the heck? Do you all think I'm completely incapable of reading comprehension? This isn't just to you, Jodi. It seems everyone is having their fun with me lately.



I know that you saying the way YOU see it means it's your opinion.



And no, that wasn't the last time we defended our country, but you're right- that's another debate altogether.



No, they don't sacrifice AS much, Jodi. They are not sitting at home for weeks at a time waiting for a phone call just to make sure their loved ones were still alive!



I never said their sacrifice was 'less worthy', either. It's not as big of a sacrifice, but it's still a sacrifice. I get that. But I'm saying, out of those occupations that do make such sacrifices, the ones that stay home seem to get more appreciation than the ones going to war in honor of our country. It just seems like less people appreciate what the military does. They do a lot more than people realize and they do more than police and firefighters (I'm not saying they are better people b/c of it, ALL our public service workers should be appreciated). But TO ME, it seems like the soldiers get less respect and appreciation for all they do. That's why I think that the military discounts are such a nice gesture. It's not much, but the appreciation is still there. But that's just my opinion.



And I do agree with Tah.. If there's not a lot of military around, you can't expect the stores to have such discounts.

Jodi - posted on 10/27/2010

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"Tell me that's not a sacrifice, giving up everything for so long to defend your country."



The way I see it (that means my opinion), the last time the US defended their country was actually WWII, but that's a different debate.



And Christina, the other occupations sacrifice just as much. It's just a DIFFERENT sacrifice. It doesn't make it any less worthy.

C. - posted on 10/27/2010

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Tah, we're the ones that have to stay with our kids all day and don't get a break.. Shouldn't that count for something? lol ;)



Anyway, Mary, I beg to differ about your comment that military and their families not sacrificing more than civilian public service men/women. I don't want to get into it a lot b/c it's really a whole other topic. BUT, policeman, firefighters, etc and their families don't have to go months or years at a time before seeing their loved ones again. Tell me that's not a sacrifice, giving up everything for so long to defend your country. It's total bullshit that it's no more of a sacrifice than any others.

Tah - posted on 10/27/2010

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what makes you sahms more deserving than working moms....don't be so entitled....j/k..lol

Mary - posted on 10/27/2010

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I too think it should be at the discretion of the business, and NO one, regardless of profession should ever expect or feel entitled to special treatment as a result of their career choice. While I agree that it is nice when others show appreciation for any of the service professions, I don't think any one group of public servants is "more" deserving of any other. After all, they voluntarily chose this line of work, and they are paid for it. Sorry to those who believe otherwise, but the military (and their families) make no greater sacrifices than say, a policeman or fireman and their families, nor do they deserve any more gratitude or appreciation from the general public.

I think the company that handles this best is Dunkin Donuts. They rotate every month amongst all of the service professions...firefighters, police, nurses, teachers, military...and offer a free medium coffee to whichever profession they are honoring for the entire month. I was there just about every day when it was nurse's month!

LaCi - posted on 10/27/2010

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We used to give all public service people discounts at most of the places I've worked. Police, military, firefighter, etc. Some of the movie theaters gave free tickets, food places gave discounts on food. Cops tend to get free and discounted things because you like having cops in your establishment. I think it's nice.

Tah - posted on 10/27/2010

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if everyone agrees that the military isn't entitled to it...then i'm not understanding the argument..almost every post is saying "they shouldn't be entitled, they shouldn't be entitled"..okay..we get that...i'm sure the ones who are not giving a hissy fit about a discount far outweigh the ones who do. Many customers have fits over many different things....If it doesn't fit your business, then don't give it..it's usually about a dollar or some change to be honest...i mean anything is nice..but it isn't like we are getting 50% off. Noone I know walks into a store, hears they don't get a discount and leaves the cart in the middle of the floor huffing off..half the time i forget about it. I think that people give discounts according to their customer base.here in va..you have huge naval bases...many army, marine and coast guard bases, to be honest if you have not served, do not serve, are not about to serve or are not related to a servicemember..you are the minority. So yes we have discounts..if i went to an area where there was maybe one small base on the outskirts of town..they probably would not have it and that would be fine also...

C. - posted on 10/27/2010

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I know that military members and their families are FAR from being homeless or starving. I just think it's a nice gesture, that's all. I didn't say anyone should be obligated to have a discount and I didn't say military/military dependents should feel entitled to one- In fact, I said the opposite.. I just think it's a nice thing to do for the men and women that sacrifice so much and for the families that support them along the way.

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Nobody here has suggested that no business should offer military discounts, just that they should not feel obliged to. Military personnel make large sacrifices, but they knew that signing up. They are valuable contributors to society, but so are teachers and nurses. I totally agree with Jodi.. military families 9at least here in Aus) are FAR from homeless and starving.

Jodi - posted on 10/26/2010

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Christina, I guess I just feel that I would rather see those businesses who offer the military a discount offer that money to the homeless or starving instead. To be honest, the military, while it is a nice gesture and they may appreciate the discount, aren't exactly homeless and starving. That money (the equivalent of the discount) could be better used elsewhere for real charity.

C. - posted on 10/26/2010

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I don't think anyone should feel 'entitled', either (if I recall correctly, I think I stated that already). But like I said, I don't see the harm in offering a small discount.

And yes, jealous. It seemed that way b/c I didn't see why anyone was so up in arms about having a discount. I see now that it wasn't the case, so I do apologize. But that was how you came across in your last post.

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I completely agree with what Jodi just said! Anyone running a business is well within their rights to offer a discount to anyone they desire, or no one at all. The OP talked about a complaint that a particular store didn't offer the discount. That's completely ridiculous.

Jodi - posted on 10/26/2010

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Jealous? Seriously? LMFAO!!!



I actually just don't think the military should feel "entitled". If a business chooses to give a discount, great, that's fine, that is their choice and I have no problem with it. I never said I had a problem with it. I just don't believe they are "entitled" to it *because* they are military.

C. - posted on 10/26/2010

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If it's a small business, there should be no question that the business owner takes precedence over the customer. A large chain, however, should have no problem b/c the amount of military families that will use the discount is small compared to the millions the company rolls in. I just think it's a nice gesture to offer and I don't see a problem with that, Jodi. Please tell me why that is so wrong? Tell me why it's so bad to get a discount if you're military/a military dependent? Are you jealous that some people feel it's a nice, small gesture towards those who serve our country and their families? Appreciation is wonderful. Even when it's just the 'little things'.

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Yes, Jodi.. They CHOSE to go into the military. BUT the fact that they are WILLING to put their life on the line for yours, even if it's for an entire year away from their family?? I think that's pretty damn commendable and I don't see why it's such a big deal to some whether the store has a military discount. What does it matter to you or the store if the discount knocks off a couple cents or a dollar or two (depending how big the discount and what the purchased amount was). I never said they should feel entitled, either. But I don't see civilian firefighters and civilian police officers going to war for our freedom. Yes, they are hometown heros, but they don't have to leave their family for months at a time (unless it's just for the academy). I think it says a lot (in a sad kind of way) that some people care about a little amount of money discounted from a military member's family's grocery or clothing bill. This is just sad, honestly. I think this whole thing is stupid (no offense to the OP). I think it's ridiculous that some people can be so negative about the military. Comparing the military to civilian jobs is like comparing apples to oranges. They are almost COMPLETELY different. One similarity- they are there to protect. The military does a lot more behind the scenes that cannot even be mentioned to the spouse but it helps our country further. Do the police do that? No. Firefighters? I think not. Again, apples to oranges.

Tah - posted on 10/26/2010

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who is to say that in a place where crab fishing is big, there aren't discounts.. In philadelphia the military presence is very small...if at all really...so you won't find many military discounts there..in fact i have never heard of it and if you go to the hotel it is cheaper to just pay the regular rate..literally. IN places that the community is a little bigger, they do give discounts. Now do i think people should be throwing fits in the middle of the store...heck no.....i have seen people do that over coupons and price matching also....i don't think we should feel entitled to it, but it is a nice gesture and does show apprectiation for all that they and the families sacrifice, crab fisherman do sacrifice i guess...i don't know if it is the same as military though...i don't think i would make that comparison...

Rosie - posted on 10/26/2010

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crab fisherman go out for months on end. they put their lives on the line, how come they shouldn't get a discount?
i agree that all service members are valuable members of society, and it would be a nice thing to do, i just don't see why people freak the fuck out over it. i didn't mention this in the OP, but we've seriously had people in the store throwing tissy fits like fucking babies cause they didn't get their precious discount. i'm real proud to have those people serving our country...i really do think it's the working in retail for 14 years that makes me this way. you just can't know until you've done it yourself. people are self entitled assholes.

Tah - posted on 10/26/2010

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they don't have to see war to be protecting the country...there are things that they do that noone even knows about that also go towards the country's defense...My husband doesn't have to leave his chair on the ship to intercept some deep crap. Most he can't even talk about. They all..and i mean all do have to go through massive training and drills and leave home for long periods of time...The navy deploys even if the United states is not at war. They protect other countries in that way as well. The fact that my husband didn't go to Iraq on the ground didn't make me worry any less with his being in the water with his guns trained on some pirates who were trying to...lets just say they weren't rolling out the welcome mat for some cargo ships who actually had a grenade launcher trained at him...trust me, i know which one wins in that scenario..or when they tried to broadside his ship etc....so just because they don't see war, the fact that are willing, to see war..constantly leaving for training for a war is repsectable as well...

C. - posted on 10/26/2010

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Dana S., Tah said it perfectly:

"i don't boycott the store or anything..policemen, firemen..etc, yes they put their lives on the line..i don't know of any that go to war and spend weeks, months and years away from their family, home and everything dear to them spending all of that time in harms way for the most part..even police officers and fireman get to go home."

Others get to go home. Yes they should be shown respect and honor, too, but soldiers have to actually go far from home and spend a long time out there. Some for weeks, Navy I think is 6 months, Army is 1 year. Tell me how many firefighters do that?

"you have to realize though that one, not all military men see war and two"

This is true, but you never know. Nobody knows. Hell, my husband didn't even know he was deploying until one month before he was supposed to leave. The fact that they are still WILLING to go to war is enough for me.

And for the record, I do not feel entitled to military discounts. Half the time going to movies and things, I even forget about it- my husband is the one that remembers. But I think it's nice to have b/c a lot of military families are actually struggling financially. Our spouses do not make a lot of money at all. Yes, the higher the rank, the more you get paid.. But unless you spent 20+ (or however many) years in to get 4 star General, you still really don't make that much. Enough to get by, but it's not necessarily in excess (like I have heard people say before- again not here, though).

Dana - posted on 10/26/2010

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Christina, you have to realize though that one, not all military men see war and two, many police, firefighters, etc..also risk their lives on a daily basis for the common good of our country.

Tah - posted on 10/26/2010

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i do think that a discount for military is nice...not just because i am a militry spouse..even before that when i moved to virginia i thought it was a nice thing to do. I don't think we are entitled to it though, if someone doesn't give one, i don't boycott the store or anything..policemen, firemen..etc, yes they put their lives on the line..i don't know of any that go to war and spend weeks, months and years away from their family, home and everything dear to them spending all of that time in harms way for the most part..even police officers and fireman get to go home.



Their families don't suffer the same hardships of having to move every 6months to a year sometimes and the children having to always be the new kid...etc. I think that the fact they do volunteer to put their lives on the line in this manner makes it more noble. I am not putting down officers or fireman, they also do a great thing and i see them get things for free and discounts in some stores, so why not the military.. Dunkin donuts does a promotion by the month..like free coffee for teachers in jan...nurses in feb..etc...and that is a nice gesture also. I think that sometimes it helps to ease the transition and it shows apprecitation...but i have no ill will towards those who don't offer it.

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Amie, I wasn't specifically going off of what I read here. I have heard many people say that the military makes more and should never get discounts for anything. That was what I was referring to, not the posts here. Honestly, I haven't even taken the time to read the posts on this thread yet.

Amie - posted on 10/26/2010

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"AND military families DO NOT get a lot of money, regardless of what many people think."

Christina what was said was military families are doing better than a lot of American families, not that they're making lots of money. Though the higher rank you are, the more you make.

Jodi - posted on 10/26/2010

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The military is no more entitled than anyone else IMO. In our business, we have CHOSEN to provide discounts to charities and community service organisations. We believe they can generally use the break because they rely so heavily on donations. As business owners, that is our choice. After all, that discount comes out of our pockets. We should have every right to choose who we give discounts to.

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