Do Christian people believe in the oneness of Allah?

Azza - posted on 07/01/2011 ( 55 moms have responded )

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I have lots of christian friends and I hear them during their prayer mentioning that Jesus is the son of Allah and some of them say that Jesus is Allah Himself, could anyone explain this to me ?

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Desiree - posted on 07/01/2011

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Oh firstly lets get a couple of things right. Allah and God are the same person or diety. Secondly Christ is the son of God or Allah. And not all Christians believe in the Holy Trinity. Other names for God are Jehova and Yahwe. The older denominations or more orthodox Church for instance Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox and I think the English High Church or Anglican all do believe in the trinity.

User - posted on 07/01/2011

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Christians believe in the Holy Trinity, which is Father, Son (Jesus)and Holy Spirit. He is one God in 3 persons, which is kind of hard to explain. I like to think of it as being different aspects of His personality. It has been likened to water existing in 3 states, steam, water and ice, having the same chemical make-up, but very different from each other.

Another way of looking at it is to see the Trinity as being like the three legs on a tripod. The tripod is one thing, but cannot work without all its legs being there.

Desiree - posted on 07/01/2011

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Jesus is not Allah and nor does Islam acknowledge as such.
According their beliefs
1: He was the Son of man, Mary being his mother.
2: He was sent with a mission from Allah/God and is therefore a prophet.
3: He was created by God' word
4: He was a spirit proceeding from God, but was not God.
Islam argues that Christ never said that he was "The only begotten Son of God"
No Christ is not Allah.

Lucy - posted on 07/02/2011

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Just about every major world religion carries the same basic principles, what ever the particular source they draw on for their moral construct.

Similarly, every major world religion has spawned a myriad of different sects, all of whom interpret their religious text (bible, Qu'ran, whatever) slightly differently. Islam is no different, having many different sects- Sunni, Shi'a, Ahmadiyya, Sufism to name just a few, all of whom believe slightly different things and all of whom identify as Muslim.

For me, the difference between God, Allah, Yawheh, Jehovah is just in the semantics. Different word, same dude.

Jennifer - posted on 07/01/2011

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Christianity teaches that God the father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are separate and one at the same time. It is called the mystery of the Holy Trinity. If your church does not include this as part of the doctrine then you cannot be called a Christian church. That is why the Mormons are not considered to be Christians because their doctrine says Jesus is not part of the holy trinity. Christians also believe in total submission to God and working to do His will among the people and in our own minds. To be an instrument of His will as a show of appreciation and gratitude for life and all His blessings.

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70 years ago society was very demeaning to women in this part of the world as well. We didn't even have a right to vote until 1940 here in canada. That part of the world is not as advanced as we are. That does not make them evil.

Rosie - posted on 07/20/2011

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i don't think anybody is arguing that islamic TERRORISTS do what they do in the name of their religion. but so do christian extremists. killing abortion providers, gays etc.

have you ever looked at what sharia law really is? i will agree that some parts of it are very demeaning to women, but in a free society if you choose to follow that religion, you choose to follow it's teachings and customs and laws. the rest of it really isn't so harmful or terrible. poor tax? oohh, so scary. seriously, what do you think these people are instructed to do? kill people? kinda like how god commands the death of many people who "sin" in the bible? do we literally go around here killing sinners?

Johnny - posted on 07/20/2011

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Jane, the church we were married in and occasionally attend refers to itself specifically as a Unitarian church, not "Unitarian Universalist". It definitely follows what you define as Unitarian Universalist though. It has been this way since I first went there as a small child. Perhaps it is different here.

Lucy - posted on 07/20/2011

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Katrina, I'm pretty sure if you did a thorough comparison Christianity would come of worse! Ya never heard of the crusades or the inquisition?

Lucy - posted on 07/20/2011

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Katrina- I hate to tell you this, but if you did a comparison I'm pretty sure Christianity would come off worse. Ya never heard of the crusades or the inquisition?

Jane - posted on 07/20/2011

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Theologically, Unitarians ARE Christians, ones that reject the creeds of the Nicene. However, many Unitarian churches merged with the Universalists, making the church called "Unitarian-Universalist." THAT church includes people of all faiths, including Wiccans, Pagans, etc., as well as Unitarians.



Unitarians are named that because they do not accept the trinity. They maintain that Jesus was a great man and a prophet of God, perhaps even a supernatural being, but not God himself. Nonetheless the church follows the teachings of Jesus about God and hence are Christians.



A lot of people confuse Unitarian churches with Unitarian-Universalist churches. They aren't the same, although they overlap.

Johnny - posted on 07/19/2011

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Unitarians are not necessarily Christians although there are many Christian Unitarians. There are also Jewish Unitarians (my wedding ceremony was performed by one), Pagan Unitarians, Wiccan Unitarins...

Katrina - posted on 07/19/2011

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I agree that many atrocities have been done in the name of Christianity. But I am also confident that these were not ordered by God. As Christians we are not ordered to kill anyone who does not believe as we do.

Jane - posted on 07/19/2011

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@Katrina - Christianity is not a peaceful religion, either. Read your world history.

Katrina - posted on 07/19/2011

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check out this link http://www.shoebat.com/ Walid Shoebat is a former Islamic terrorist. I am sorry if some find my response offensive, but I am tired of people being deceived. Islam is not what are shoving down our throats. It is not a peaceful religion. I am not saying that everyone who is Muslim is evil, or even knows the truth about their religion. I do know what I am talking about because this is something I have studied. Women are not respected in Islam. Just look at Iran & Saudi Arabia. Look into Sharia law which they put above the laws of their country of residence.

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You do realize that Christianity and Islam both stem from Judaism so they originated with the SAME GOD.

Rosie - posted on 07/19/2011

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katrina you obviously know nothing about islam then. look it up, google is your friend....

Jane - posted on 07/19/2011

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@Katrina - Way to have an open mind and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Not!

Jane - posted on 07/19/2011

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@Jennifer - Following the teachings of Jesus Christ is all you need to do to be a Christian. Whether you believe in the Trinity or not has nothing to do with being a Christian. Unitarians are indeed Christians, just not in the same denomination as yours.

Katrina - posted on 07/19/2011

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this is a false religion that is being created to make Islam more acceptable. There is no connection between Jesus & Allah. Allah is just another form of satan. There is nothing holy about him.

Amanda - posted on 07/19/2011

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Callie - I am apostolic holiness too :)

One one one, one way to God baptize in Jesus' name



I don't think that Allah is god. I believe that JesusChrist is God, not a trinity but the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are all Jesus. When the Bible says to baptize in the "name" of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost (Matt. 28 19) that name is Jesus. Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles of Jesus. That's why in Acts 2 38 the bible says to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the Remission of sins and the only Name where by men must be saved is Jesus Christ. :)



this is the apostolic message and we believe the plan of salvation is from acts 2 38 (apostles doctrine)

Callie - posted on 07/19/2011

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I'm apostolic/Pentecostal and we do not refer to God as Allah, but Allah is another name for him, in other countries like Africa

Alison - posted on 07/12/2011

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To me, being a Christian means believing in Christ and trying to follow His teachings. Just because some leaders got together and narrowed their definitions to exclude certain religions doesn't change that in everyone's mind. I'm a Mormon and I believe also a Christian. In fact, the official name of the Mormon church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are separate beings, which, in my opinion, is a much easier concept to grasp. I believe God is the Father, Jesus is the Savior who carried out the Father's will, and the Holy Ghost is a spirit. I just thought I'd clarify that particular part of what Mormons believe. Trust me, I know it's very controversial.

Jennifer - posted on 07/12/2011

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According to the Nicene Creed, "We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth, of all that is seen and unseen . . we believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, only son of the Father, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him, all things were made . . . By the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary and became man . . . we believe in the Holy Spirit, the lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the father and the son . . ." That last "and the son" was added by the Roman church @1000AD and was a main reason for the Great Schism between the Roman and Orthodox churches. Their interpretation of the relationships between the aspects of the Trinity differs. The part about Jesus says that he is one in being with the Father, begotten, not made. There was a LOT of theosophical controversy about who exactly Jesus was early in the church, starting @200AD, with some theosophers claiming Jesus was entirely divine and just looked human so He could interact with us directly, and others claiming he was entirely human and a powerful prophet of God, rather like Moses or Mohammad. This period of the Christological Disputes (arguments over who/what Christ was) almost tore apart the Christian church. Once Constantine the Great legalized Christianity in 313, he began to give many good gov't jobs to Christians (he credited the Christian God for his ability to win control of the Roman Empire), and these disputes began to tear the Roman government apart, too. So he stepped in and ordered a church council to resolve the debate, and it met at Nicea in 324 and resulted in the Nicene Creed, which Constantine then issued as an imperial edict -- all Christians must profess the Nicene Creed to count as legalized Christianity within the empire. The final decision (made by Constantine himself, though he was not a Christian, and still functioned as the High Priest of Jupiter at the time) was that Jesus was 100% man and 100% divine at the same time. There was never a time before the existence of the son (begotten, not made, one in being with the father) though there obviously was a long time before that aspect of the Trinity was incarnated into human flesh. So while Jesus of Nazareth was physically on Earth, God (the Father, or Allah, or Yaweh . . .) was in heaven. How? We can't comprehend the capabilities of divinity. He's just that swell.

There were those theologians/theosophers who disagreed with this and stormed out of the council, and some of their perspectives continued to be influential heresies (from a Roman perspective).

The most famous explanation of mainstream Christianity's belief in the Trinity is St. Patrick's example of the shamrock -- three separate distinct leaves, one whole plant, though I think the h2o explanation is perhaps more apt.

Desiree - posted on 07/06/2011

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Jennifier They believe in Oneness of God which mean that Jesus and God are the same thing. And a number of people do not consider these churches as Christian. But because they teach Christ's doctrine they are Christians. at least that is what I was taught. Unitarian are but one to name a few.

Jennifer - posted on 07/05/2011

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I am confused about how someone could say they belong to a Christian church that doesn't believe in the holy trinity. Are you sure Unitarian is a Christian church? Maybe I am missing something here...

Becky - posted on 07/05/2011

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I believe the same, that Yahweh, God, and Allah are all the same God. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as the OT puts it. But, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have different understandings of this God - focus on different attributes of him, worship him in different ways and believe different things about who Jesus is. And not all Christians do believe that Allah is just another name for the God we follow. As for the trinity, I do believe in that, but others have explained it better than I can. :)

Desiree - posted on 07/05/2011

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Krista you are correct same name different religion. Thats all.



Edit: Sorry it was meant to be different religion and name same God.

Krista - posted on 07/05/2011

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My understanding is that God and Allah are actually one and the same. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions, with Christianity and Islam stemming from Judaism, which was around first. I don't doubt that each religion (and the sub-sects within those religions) have INTERPRETED that particular deity differently. But, in the grand scheme of things, they technically ARE the same deity.

Teresa - posted on 07/05/2011

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Our non-denominational Christian church does not believe in Allah. We believe in God the Father, Jesus His one and only son and the Holy Spirit. The three are indepedent beings and one at the same time, a concept that is very difficult to grasp. They have always been together in Heaven. Allah plays not part in our religion.

Desiree - posted on 07/04/2011

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Ok thanks for making that clear. What I was saying is that Christ never said the actual words and that is what they state. They consider Christ to be a very important Prophet. On the other hand I am a Catholic who believes in the Holy Trinity and not in the Oneness, which is that Christ and God are one.

Kiara - posted on 07/04/2011

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I was referring to the post that u put about islam stating that it was never said that Jesus was d only begotten son jst sum scriptures that will b very helpful for understnding the meaning for ones who dnt understand through telling(sumtimes reading n seeing for urself gves best perspective)

Kiara - posted on 07/04/2011

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To Desiree for ur comment on islam belief:John 3:16,Nw for the oneness of God:Isiah 9:6.Lst bt nt least for the Holy Trinity:John 1:1-14,Matthews 2:23.This shld gve anyone whose vision darkened,light.

Jane - posted on 07/04/2011

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There are many, many different denominations within Christianity just as there are in Islam. Some denominations believe one thing, some denominations believe another. My mother was a Unitarian, so she didn't believe in the Trinity (God, Jesus, and "the Holy Ghost").

There are different denominations within Islam as well, so you should be able to see that even saying you have the same religion, you still may not agree on the details.

Vegemite - posted on 07/04/2011

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What Desieree said
"all three a separate but one. thats why it is called the trinity. and you are correct when you say that Christ is the son of Allah/God/Jehova/Yawhe or what ever you choose to call the Father."
There are other words that are used like Elohim, El Shaddai, El Elyon, Jehovah Jireh. It's just different names mostly they describe God and most of these words do cross over the Christian, Muslim and Jewish faiths. After all they stem from the one God. You can google the meanings of these names if you're interested.

Desiree - posted on 07/02/2011

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Dyan all three a separate but one. thats why it is called the trinity. and you are correct when you say that Christ is the son of Allah/God/Jehova/Yawhe or what ever you choose to call the Father. However on that point the dogma or teachings of each group is very different some teach according to the scripture others do not. So spend their lives preaching from revelations and others do not. Then there are those who teach according to the Gospel and over and above that are those who teach both the gospel and the scripture. The difference are the scripture in the Old Testament and the Gospel is the New Testament. Christianity is one of the most complex teaching because of the vairity of belief systems and this could take a very long to explain all the differences but these are just a few.

Rosie - posted on 07/02/2011

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i always thought growing up that the holy trinity was 2 seperate individuals. jesus was seperate, and the holy gost and god were the same. not sure if i misunderstood what i was taught or if i was actually taught that.
i always saw jesus as someone completely seperate from god. you can't be the son of someone and the same person at the same time, maybe that's why i thought that way?? who knows.

as for allah and god thing, by MY teachings (or misunderstandings, lol) jesus was the son of allah. :)

Desiree - posted on 07/02/2011

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Jennifer there you are correct .This is called Monotheism., which should not be mixed up with the difference between Oneness and Trinity. Oneness is the belief that Jesus is all three Jesus, God and the Holy Ghost. Whereas the Trinity is the belief that the three are separate but one. Christianity is split into 3 groups Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant. Just because we belive that there is one God does not mean that we have the same dogma as another Church. Please also remember that originally Christinty was a sect of the Jewish Faith.

Jennifer - posted on 07/02/2011

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It makes sense that we can philosohpically agree that all religions who believe in One God have that in common, but that does not mean that they are the same religion. There are very significant differences in the religions that all believe in one god. All of them have some things in common, but they are not the same.

Azza - posted on 07/02/2011

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@ Juleah, as Lucy explained Allah, God or whatever other names are all different words to the the same thing. For me I'm relieved in the belief that "Jesus" is like all other prophets is a messenger from God to Humanity. I totally agree with you that all the world major religion carries the same basic principle which we try hard to to follow.

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Lucy said, "For me, the difference between God, Allah, Yawheh, Jehovah is just in the semantics. Different word, same dude."

TOTALLY AGREE!!! :)

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Here is how I have explained it to my children. I am elizabeth. I am a mother I am a daughter and I am a sister. Same with God. Father, son and holy spirit. sarahs post put it very nicely into prespective.

Jennifer - posted on 07/01/2011

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There is actually a convention of Christian leadership that meets to determine the guidelines for being a Christian church - so that is why some churches that invoke Jesus are not considered Christian. I am trying to remember the rules about that - Holy Trinity, Bible is the word of God, some others I would have to look up...

Minnie - posted on 07/01/2011

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Sarah explained it well with the water state analogy. Many Christians believe in a triune God, who is composed of three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All three persons are the one God, but have different purposes.

Desiree - posted on 07/01/2011

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Ok JuLeah lets see if I can explain it a little better. Three are one not different. it is God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Which I am sure still causing confusion because there is no mention of Christ. So let try this God is the Planner, with Christ as the tool used to tell Gods plan and the Holy Spirit is action that puts the plan into motion. and yes using a tripod to discribe it actually helps because in our belief the one can't work without the other it takes three legs to make the whole stand work. So there is nothing wrong with that analogy at all. Hope that helped a little.

JuLeah - posted on 07/01/2011

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When you use the name Allah, you mean the same thing as God, right? People hear Allah, think Muslim, and get all freaked out.



So, you might get some backlash from that. As for your post ... I have never been able to wrap my brain around this idea.



Jesus is the son of God, and also God, plus there is a holy ghost who is an Uncle or something.



I took a religious studies class where this was covered, but really can't say I understand. I look forward to reading posts from folks that do.

Desiree - posted on 07/01/2011

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Azza no need to get so upset I am stating a fact. I being a Catholic do believe in the Trinity but my sister in law who belongs to one of the New age Family Churches does not. simple as that. All Christians believe in Christ hence the reason we are called Christians. Mormons are not considered Christians. Christian denominations that don't believe in the Holy Trinity are:

Mormons (they want to be recognised as mainstream)

Jehova Witnesses

Rehma

United Pentecostal Church International

Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ

Pentecostal Assemblies of the World

Apostolic Restoration Mission

Reconciling Pentecostals International

Assemblies of God

and there are more. They believe in Oneness as opposed

to the Trinity.

Azza - posted on 07/01/2011

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to me Jenn these multiple interpretations is a main reason for confusion. A religion, to my concept should be a source of serenity and peacefulness of mind , It is literally a total "submission" to Allah, realizing that all life comes from Him and that at the end of life on Earth all must submit to His final judgement, answering personally for youy deed, that belief in opinion gives a relief

Jenn - posted on 07/01/2011

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Christianity fascinates me because there are SO many interpretations and applications which results in over 3800 denominations in the world. 3800!! That's mind-boggling to me! No wonder there is always a battle within the Christian religion of who is right and who is wrong in their beliefs. No wonder people give up on religion as a whole!

Azza - posted on 07/01/2011

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@Jenn I like the comparison, only one point I didn't agree with is that the authenticity of the Qur'an has never been disputed by any one since it was first recorded in writing more than fourteen centuries

Azza - posted on 07/01/2011

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@Desiree "What do you mean by "the Holy Trinti," & how come do you say that " not all Christians believe in it " I believe that all christians belong to one religion and they all believe in ONE GOD and they all have the same principles. @ Holly I agree with you God and Allah are one and the same @ Sarah Colville I believe comparing God to materials around us like water ore a tripod is totally unfair, God is greater than that , He is the creator of every tiny thing around us/Allah is " The One Who begets not was He begotten and there is none like unto Him" @ Audrey ,you say that Jesus is your God , How come that God be crucified as Your bible say ??!!!!

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I believe that Allah and God are one and the same. They just have different names in different religions. Of course, I'm not going to speak for EVERY Christian out there, but that's this humble Christian's opinion :)

Audrey - posted on 07/01/2011

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im southern baptist and we do not believe in allah. Its Jesus and God for us. Jesus is the son of God. there is absolutly no allah in christianity.

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