Do you eat soy products??

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Mrs. - posted on 12/18/2010

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Yes, my fiance makes flat bread and pizza crust with it. However, I can't have yeast so I can't do full on bread. I especially like the Natura with vanilla (the unsweetened one/no cane sugar) for baking sweets or the like.

And yes Kristi E, I know that is actually the case. The genetics of some people of Asian descent and those from cultures who have been without soy.

The thing with Monsanto soy and avoiding it. I thought that was something that really couldn't be 100 percent avoided. I read and heard that the seed has the tendency to spread through the air like a virus almost and affect the GMO status of the soy? How can you know for sure and is it worth the risk to still consume it heartily? I'm not all that cool with taking the risk.

Plus, I know for sure that the times I ate soy regularly my endometriosis growth multiplied. I know this because when they went in to operate there was a shit load more than when I didn't. I'm not gonna blame it all on soy, there's dairy too but since I cut them out I have not had to have a surgery...I used to have to have them every three years (it's been almost 6). If it can do that to me, I'm not cool feeding it too my daughter except for a treat every once and a while. Just my opinion.

Mrs. - posted on 12/18/2010

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Joanna, I find the rice milk (which is fortified) much better for baking. The Natura brand is excellent if you get it where you live.

Charlie - posted on 12/17/2010

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very occasionally I eat Tofu and I drink oat milk
i LOVE Edamame beans , My vegan aunty eats a lot of soy she has never been able to fall pregnant at 50 years old she is heartbroken because of it her doctors believe her diet has also destroyed her thyroid , Soy has been thought by many to negatively affect the thyroid and in both instances this is what has happened to my Aunty .

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i drink soy milk... not too much though. I think this is more towards the vegetarians who get all their protein from soy. I'm more of a beans and lentils gal myself. I read about this a few years ago. My nutritionist still said its better than dairy..

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mmm...edamame!
when talking about diet with our ped she told us to watch giving too much soy. peds are seeing infants eating too much soy developing breasts. go figure! regardless I've dropped to maybe once a week with organic tofu.

LaCi - posted on 12/18/2010

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I really believe the only effect that a lack of generational adaptation for a food will have is digestive upsets. And certainly, if your body isn't handling a food well don't eat it. But to accuse isoflavones of the things that are more than likely caused by GMOs and/or pesticides is just silly, in my opinion. We should be more concerned with the hormonal impact the filthy air we breathe has, I'd bet money that its 10x greater than a high soy diet.

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I find almond milk good for baking. I like soy as well. Almond is better when you substitute eggs. I mix it with flax meal.

Jocelyn - posted on 12/18/2010

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Without reading the article (later tho lol)
Yep I eat soy. Maybe one or two servings a day.
Everything in moderation! Anything in excess can be bad for you.

Joanna - posted on 12/18/2010

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Thanks Rebecca! I've been meaning to try it. Have you made bread with it? I love the bread I make with soy milk, but I'd be interested if rice milk is better in bread,

Krista - posted on 12/18/2010

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LaCi, I can't remember where I read it, but I remember seeing somewhere that the reason people of Asian descent can eat so much more soy than Caucasians without adverse effects is basically because it's been a staple in their diet for generations, so genetically, their body is used to it.

Soy products have only really been introduced to the "western" diet in the last 30 years or so, and have only been widespread for the last 10, I'd say. We went from eating almost no soy, to soy suddenly being the trendy thing and being in a LOT of foods. People went from no soy at all, to drinking soy milk, eating tofu, eating soy burgers, snacks made of soy, candy made of soy, EVERYTHING made of soy. So I think it was a case of too much, too soon, and our bodies just aren't genetically equipped to handle that much soy all of a sudden.

Cultural differences DO have an effect on biology. It's why my friend from India can eat a bag of that spicy Indian mix and be just fine, whereas if I eat it, I get the fiery poops for hours afterwards. :)

Joanna - posted on 12/18/2010

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I judt went dairy free a week ago so now I'm using some soy. I use soy milk (or almond milk) for cooking and baking, and I get some boxed foods or premade snacks that are dairy free so I'm sure they have soy. That's the extent though. I'm not worried though.

LaCi - posted on 12/18/2010

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I eat quite a bit of soy. There are a few comment at the bottom that pretty much sum up my thoughts on this article.



"Ok, was this study funded by the National Meat Institute? Seriously, Okinawans consume 60-120 grams of soy protein per day and have the longest, healthiest lives of any population on the planet. People in China consume 30-50 grams per day and CLEARLY reproductivity is not a challenge there (Wilcox et al, 2004). I think I'll trust human-based evidence, thank you, and not something concocted in a lab on a completely different specie. I am irritated that mice had to be even slightly inconvenienced for such a study. (Also, in response to breast milk being better for your kid than formula: duh)."



"In the following link John Robbins answers my concerns about soy since I am vegetarian. Check it out..

There's a lot of misleading information out there..



The article discusses how for Okinawans, soy compromises 12% of their deit.. They have up to 80% less cancer cases and heart diseases than leading industrialized nations."





If you google "too much soy" you'll also find accusations that soy is making people gay.



Too much of anything is probably not good for you.



Soy in the US is mostly genetically modified, which I would sooner link to problems than the isoflavones. Soybeans have been a staple in asian diets for thousands of years. I'll trust thousands of years of health over a lab rat study funded by god knows who. These isoflavones they are concerned with are found in a a variety of beans, that should be noted as well. It's not just in soybeans.



HOWEVER. I will continue to avoid GMOs and anything produced by monsanto.





And lets not forget that all the studies that have been done are short term, all the studies have provided conflicting "results"



Isoflavones: Anti-cancer properties, including, namely, the hormonal cancers. Cardiac benefits including lowering cholesterol, preventing atherosclerosis. May prevent parasitic infections, including tapeworms. Are powerful antioxidants. Bunch of other benefits studies have shown thus far.

Krista - posted on 12/18/2010

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I don't eat much in the way of soy products, but like Loureen, I do enjoy a nice bowl of edamame with sea salt and pepper every so often. It's just the occasional treat, though, so I'm really not worried about it

Rosie - posted on 12/18/2010

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ive heard of this recently, and once again everybody is freaking out and banning soy all together, when you have to eat the stuff like for every meal to have this happen. i suppose some vegetarians should be worried, but someone who eats tofu every now and then shouldn't be worried too much. moderation is key. :)

C. - posted on 12/18/2010

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I've heard that before.. When I was around 14, a 'friend' (it's a long story) pretty much ate/drank nothing but soy stuff at home. Her mom was very.. Well, kind of hippie-ish, actually. They were so afraid of all the hormones in the meat and everything, too.



Anyway, my mom was talking to her parents b/c they had mentioned before that this 'friend' was having female problems (I can't remember if she wasn't getting her period or getting it too often).. Anyway, my mom told them that soy was known for causing fertility and other problems in females and they ignored her.. Years down the road, this girl has had several miscarriages and trouble getting pregnant. I guess it really can have those effects..



But anyway, to answer the title question.. I used to eat soy a lot, but as of the last 3-4 years, I only eat/drink it occasionally..

Mrs. - posted on 12/17/2010

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I have/had severe endometriosis and excess soy is a big no no because of the estrogen levels...they tend to create more growth of the bad tissue. I look at soy the way some people look at seafood. Don't eat things like tuna frequently because of the mercury and don't do the same with soy. It's a very occasional treat. As someome with lactose issues, I drink rice milk instead of soy milk, or even almond or coconut milk over soy.

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No soy for me. I'm somewhat lactose intolerant (might be growing out of it) and I don't like milk but soy milk has no flavor. also, i ate some tofu hot dogs once, just to try them, and they were ridiculously horrible. nothing could fix them. i ate them anyway, though...with lots of mustard, haha. and i hate mustard :(

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