DO YOU THINK IT'S AN ISSUE WITH MOM'S THAT COULDNT DELIVER BABY NATURALLY? OR COULDNT DELIVER C-SECTION

Patricia - posted on 04/02/2012 ( 46 moms have responded )

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I've had both.. My first 2 kids were natural and my daughter was an emergency c-section... I can have either one if I was to get pregnant again dont matter to me.. Both hurt lol Alot of my freinds has had only c-sections and they wanted natural.. they seem sad about it

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MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/02/2012

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I don't understand what is being asked here.... sorry....

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Natural isn't always best, Julie. Natural could've ended up w/ me having a dead nephew real fast. Natural is better IF possible, but it isn't always best.

Minnie - posted on 04/02/2012

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I was depressed and angry for quite some time after my highly interventionistic hospital birth. I went on to have an empowering out of hospital water birth for my second.



I'm still frustrated about what happened with my first birth, but it's not front and center for me now.

Janice - posted on 04/02/2012

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I have never heard of having a c-section causing thinned uterine lining, but each c-section does up certain risks such as uterine rupture. The more scar tissue there is the more likely a internal organ (besides the uterus) or the baby will be accidentally cut during subsequent c-sections. From what I have read it is rare for doctor to "allow" a VBAC after 2 or more c-sections and it is advised that more than 3-4 c-sections is risky.



As for depression, I was happy about my daughter's conception -we had tried for years- so I had no depression after her birth despite it being a c-section. My son was a surprise and I was depressed my entire pregnancy and the depression didnt end with his birth. He is 4 months and its still lingering a bit :(

Kimberly - posted on 04/02/2012

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I was induced with our daughter and after 18 hours in labour it was clear she was very stuck and I had to have emerg c-section. I was really scared not only from having a c-section but also cause I am allergic to morphine and any drug in that family so it worried me being given drugs that I didnt know if I would react to. But at the end of the day I just wanted my baby out safe and sound which I got. Its never worried me that I never gave 'natural' birth and will never be able to as I have a really small pelvis and the said if I have another one I will have to have another c-section. Natural would have been good but frankly either way is painful!!!!

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Tina - posted on 04/08/2012

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@ Jenni that's terrible normally if an epidural isn't successful they'd have to use general anaesthesia. I hope the aneathasist got the sack.

Tina - posted on 04/08/2012

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After having my kids my friend said if she had kids she's choosing c section. I really don't recommend it for a first child unless it's medically necessary. People think it's just the easy way out but it's really not. It's emotionally hard. Recovery can be hard especiall if you've got young kids you've got a newborn to take care of and an older child. You're not suppose to lift much. But I can't not pick my son up. It means it's taking me longer to recover. For me it wasn't a choice. I had mine close together and after having complications I asked my doctor what I should do. Could I have the second one naturally. He told me my options but we left the finally decision only weeks before my daughter was due and unfortunately c section ended up being my only option. That was just my situation. It's not really what I wanted but sometimes we have to put our own feelings aside. As bad as I wanted to have a natural birth experience, it wasn't going to happen. I have just had to come to terms with it and realise it's not just about me and what I want it was about the safety of my child. Unfortunately not every doctor thinks about what is best for mother and baby just what is convenient for them and that means their is unneccessary c sections and inductions. And woman are simply robbed of a natural birth. It's really hard and scary as a first time mum. You do all you can to learn about birth and learn about your option what meds have what side effects. You make your birth plan. Only for it all to go wrong. It's especially hard when you suppose to be able trust your doctor to make the best decisions and all they really care about is their pay cheque. My doctor is pretty good. But some really aren't I feel sorry for the ones who might have had a better birth experience if it wasn't for their doctors.

Stifler's - posted on 04/07/2012

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If I had another kid... I'd have an elective because then I'd have a huge sleep before it and know when the baby was coming.

Janice - posted on 04/06/2012

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Jenni - Wow that is scary! *shudders* When my daughter was born via c-sec. What you just described was what I feared. Thankfully, I was numb enough. I'm glad to hear the second Csec went well.

Jenni - posted on 04/06/2012

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Both of my pregnancies ended at 42 weeks with inductions and emergency c-sections.



My first emergency c-section, I experienced the most indescribable pain. I was not "frozen" enough. I had it via epidural. It felt like I was being disemboweled on the operating table. I could feel everything, unimaginable searing pain. I guess I would describe it as being gutted. The most they could do for me was give me shots of morphine which did very little to relieve the pain. I screamed throughout the entire operation. Horrible experience.



With my second, I was horrified that I would have the same experience as my first. I cried nearly every day I went past my due date from the fear of another induction. Which inevitably happened. This time I was actually progressing nicely (my first, I never progressed past 3-4 cm). After 12 hours of labour, I reached 9.5 cm and got stuck in a catch-22 of my daughter pushing down and causing my cervix to swell. They turned off my epidural to prepare for a spinal if need be, and I laboured for 4-5 hours at 9.5 cm. Then the decision was made to have a c-section. I was given the spinal and the operation was quick and painless this time.



I do regret not being able to experience spontaneous labour and a natural birth. But I guess it's neither here nor there now. Just happy my children were born healthy and are here with me now.

Rosie - posted on 04/06/2012

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those that choose simply cause they don't want to labor and go in (never known a doctor who would just cut someone open no reason...but i suppose they're out there) annoy me, but whatever. those who choose because their first vaginal birth was horrifying to them, ripping them to shreds, yeah i get it.

as for inductions, i see no problem with elective ones if it's after 39 weeks, and the womans cervix is favorable. if they have to dialate the cervix with meds, i don't think they should unless there are medical circumstances.

my last two i was induced, my first one i was not. i did miss the excitement of not knowing when labor would start etc..but it made no difference to me in the end. i got my boys and that's all i needed. :)

Bonnie - posted on 04/06/2012

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I have heard a lot of women who would rather have a c-section just because they knew the day their baby would be born and they wouldn't have to go through labour. I know of others who were forced to have a c-section and felt guilty for not being able to deliver naturally. Some, like me, would rather never have to have a c-section. My first two were vaginal births and I am hoping this one will be vaginal as well. I will do what it takes to avoid a c-section.

Stifler's - posted on 04/05/2012

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The no sleep was a big thing for me too I seem to have had my kids in the middle of the night so I was up all day then all night then people were coming in every 2 seconds to check on us and then visitors every time I put the baby down adn settled in for a nap or to eat lunch.

Tina - posted on 04/05/2012

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exhaustion was the worst part for me I having no sleep leading up to my sons birth. It was pretty bloody painful lol but I'd do it all again if I had too. I do recall the doctor saying once the epidural kicked in. You're having a contraction. I'm like am I that's good lol

Tina - posted on 04/05/2012

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exhaustion was the worst part for me I having no sleep leading up to my sons birth. It was pretty bloody painful lol but I'd do it all again if I had too. I do recall the doctor saying once the epidural kicked in. You're having a contraction. I'm like am I that's good lol

Stifler's - posted on 04/05/2012

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The pain was the issue for me. I was so so so glad when they put that spinal tap in and labour was over.

Tina - posted on 04/05/2012

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I feel sorry for what you went through April. That's completely selfish on the doctors part. My doctor tried to grant my wish to have natural but my sons vitals were dropping after 24 hours of labour so I didn't have any choice. But your doctor took away your choice that is disgusting on her part. I hope your next birth goes as planned for you. I definately would be looking for another doctor just in case someone who is more simpathetic.



I think the thing that bothered me when my doctor and I decided that c section was best option for my second, was people saying well at least you don't have to worry about the pain. Or you don't have to worry about labour. It made me feel worse because I really wanted to be able to do it. The pain wasn't the issue for me it was just too risky for both my daughter and I.

Tina - posted on 04/05/2012

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I feel sorry for what you went through April. That's completely selfish on the doctors part. My doctor tried to grant my wish to have natural but my sons vitals were dropping after 24 hours of labour so I didn't have any choice. But your doctor took away your choice that is disgusting on her part. I hope your next birth goes as planned for you. I definately would be looking for another doctor just in case someone who is more simpathetic.



I think the thing that bothered me when my doctor and I decided that c section was best option for my second, was people saying well at least you don't have to worry about the pain. Or you don't have to worry about labour. It made me feel worse because I really wanted to be able to do it. The pain wasn't the issue for me it was just too risky for both my daughter and I.

Stifler's - posted on 04/05/2012

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I've had both and I was disturbed by both. Never again. My vagina is still wrecked and I hate hate hate my c-section scar. I'll get over it. I love my kids, the whole birth thing isn't a big deal to me. I had just the gas with the first and no stitches then the second was like induction, gas, monitor, blah blah this isn't good let's do a caesar JUST GET THE BABY OUT. Yeah.

Tinker1987 - posted on 04/04/2012

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I have only had one child,and it was ALL natural.No drugs. i loved the experience,and glad i got through it,but i should have had a c-cection but the only doctor in my town able too do the Anestetic for c-cection was 3 hours away. after hard pushing baby was born healthy and thats all that matters,but i could have done with out the 4th degree tare. im still dealing with complcations from that 16 months later. I have friends that LOVE c-cections and would never do it any other way i guess it just depends on the person!

Shelley - posted on 04/04/2012

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I wanted to have an all natural drug free vaginal delivery. I think i placed too much emphasis on this and felt it would be a brave warrior woman like achievement. i generally have a high pain tolerance and thought i would be fine. After 36 hrs of labor my daughters heart stopped and they had no choice but to perform an emergency c-section when they made the usual incision they found she was too far down and had to cut whats called and inverted t incision which is up my uterus in order to get her out. When they removed her they found that the chord had turned to a jelly like substance and she was no longer attached. My husband and i were blessed with small but otherwise healthy baby girl.

I was Advised not to vbac as my next child was only 20 months later and there was just too much scar tissue and the chance of uterine rupture too high.

With both c sections i was up walking around the next day the first took a lot longer to totally recover coughing, laughing and sneezing were so painful for months. The second i recovered really quickly no real pain at all after the first week.



To answer the question.

Sometimes i have thoughts that i didn't really deliver my children and that my body didn't really perform as a woman's body should. I am sensitive when people say "oh were you too posh to push" or "oh you took the easy way out" So yes their is a bit of sadness and and resentment. I wasn't in control, it wasn't what i wanted and i wasn't the brave mother warrior. Then i remember that i am so blessed to have 2 healthy little girls and i don't have time for a pity party. There's washing and ironing to be done. I need to weed the front garden and clean through. The Easter Bunny will be here before we know it.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 04/04/2012

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Patricia, if they'd let you go naturally, with the baby breech, even in this day and age, you could have lost her. C-section was the best thing.



Jaime, tell your doc you want a belly button incision. No scar, minimal invasiveness. They did mine right after I had the baby, so was still under the effects of the epidural. I did have to watch my physical activity for about 6 weeks, but that was it. No huge incision, and worry. I was actually awake, since my epidural was still working, they didn't put me under to do it...it's kind of strange to be loopy like that and watch people cutting...on you!

Patricia - posted on 04/04/2012

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Yes of course if your baby ius at risk you must have a c-section but some arent needed and doctors just wanna do them.. I had my daughter friday afternoon came home sunday night by monday morning i wash doin laundry.. lol I am sad i had a c-section but my baby was at risk and it had to be done..I just wish when i told the doctor i had pain the day before i delivered she would of took more time to see what was wrong with me other than saying "OH YOUR JUST GROWING"..

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/04/2012

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I agree with Teresa... Both my children would've died if I hadn't had a c-section. They were both emergency sections. I tried damn hard to let them do their thing, my body just wouldn't give them the break they needed. I could only dilate 3cm both times. I think 23 hours the first time and 36 hours the 2nd time was long enough for my babies (espcially when my water breaks at the very beginning of labour) and me! ;)



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I healed very quickly. Within 3 weeks I was back to normal.. I was up and walking within 12 hours both times. It was the only way they would take my IV and catheter out, they had to see me able to get to the washroom, which meant I had to drink lots. ;)

April - posted on 04/04/2012

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I'm still upset 3 years later that I had a c-section with my first. It was unneccessary and as Lisa so eloquently put it, "highly interventionistic" . I was induced 1 week before my due date, which was Dec. 29 (he was born Dec 22) for NO REASON! The OB just wanted to take the baby out before Christmas (although she told me that he was "too small" then she told my mom he was "too big"...obviously she was a liar). As for interventions, I got cervidil to thin out my cervix but they didn't tell me they were putting it in! They would just lift up my gown and insert the cervidil without telling me what the heck they were doing!!! I definitely am not fond of this OB and won't be seeing her again...EVER. I am hoping for a homebirth this time around. I'm pregnant with my second child who will hopefully never see the inside of a hospital! If so, SHE will not be anywhere near this child.

Tina - posted on 04/04/2012

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I had complications with my son. I was so determined to have a natural birth. But doctor basically said c section was my best option in the end. I just wanted what was best for my baby. That's why I was so determined to do natural but unfortunately turned out it wasn't the best thing for him. While I was waiting for to be prepped for surgery I cried. My partner was like don't cry you'll make me cry. It's weird but the thing that really got to me was his first nappy change. I was unable to do it because I couldn't move. There was a nurse in training that did it. I was thankful but abit annoyed at the same time. Because that was meant to be my job. He's my baby and I'm suppose to be able to take care of him. I hated not being able to move straight away and take care of my baby.



My second I had to have a c-section as well. My doctor and I only left the decision till a couple weeks before my daughter was due. Because I really hoped I would be able to do it this time. But it wasn't going to be possible unfortunately I still get a little upset. I envy people who do have natural births. I've had a few relatives who've had babies lately so that's come with mixed feeling. I'm happy for them but I envy them at the same time. Plus my babies are growing so fast I miss how small they were.



The reason you would have felt sick is because you blood pressure drops because of the meds they put in you during surgery. Also the itching is from the morphene. I was shocking in recovery I scratched my face up pretty bad. I didn't have that problem with my son but I didn't have much medication after he was born and he was born pretty quickly.

**Jackie** - posted on 04/04/2012

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I was walking the next morning after my c-section and apart from feeling like I was going to come apart (which was, of course, all in my head) I felt great.

Janice - posted on 04/04/2012

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Julie while I agree that natural is better, if possible, I have had both and the recovery from my vaginal delivery was longer than my c-section recovery.

**Jackie** - posted on 04/03/2012

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I always wanted natural but my BP got dangerously high during my 7th month of pregnancy. By the 8th month my face, hands, and feet were completely swollen and I had to be put on bed rest. My doctor suggested a c-section and when I asked why he explained to me the risk of having a stroke during pregnancy. I did some research and was horrified when finding that women can die during child birth so easily when their BP is as high as mine. At my next appointment I told the doctor to go ahead and get the paperwork ready, I would have the c-section.



I remember the nurses wheeling me into the OR and I looked at my doctor in the eye and said "Get her out first, she comes first...then me". It was at that moment that I realized, she would forever come first. On my next child, it will probably be the same thing but I have changed my mind, I don't care at all. I just want the baby and I to come out of that OR alive and healthy. IF that makes me less of a mom or seems unnatural to anyone well then you can bite me :)

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I think it depends on the mom. I'm sure some moms don't care. For me personally, I would have preferred that my kids arrived in the world the natural way, but the fact that they are all here and perfectly healthy really is more important than how they arrived.

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/02/2012

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No, as far as I know, other than trying to physicaly move the baby with their hands - I have seen them do this on birthing shows - (which I would not want to have done), there is no other safe way.

Janice - posted on 04/02/2012

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Very few doctors are well versed in delivering breech babies, so it is often much safer, for the baby, to do a c-section. I'm not sure if there was a better option, but of course I am not a doctor.

Patricia - posted on 04/02/2012

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ok i wanna add something..i went to the doctor on thursday and told her i had pain in my stomache, she said i got ultra sound results back your baby is still breech.. She checked me with her hand said my baby hasnt dropped, that i still had 4 weeks til delivery.. She said the pain was from growing.. Please i was 8 months prego and gained 4 pounds i wasnt growing.. i said fine, went home still pain, went to work still pain everyone said your in labor i said "no doc said i was not she checked." Get home bout 1am still in pain trying to sleep aint happening.. so about 11am i cant stand the pain go to the bathroom and like black stuff is comming out.. Im freaking out call the doctor.. I go to hospital, this is what they say," YOUR BABY MADE A BOWEL MOVEMENT AND YOUR 8CM, i said ok then! my bf at the time runs in and says BABY IS BREECH THEYRE DOING EMERGENCY C-SECTION.. so i cried, do you think that c-section could of been prevented...

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/02/2012

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Yes, I felt and still do feel ripped right off! I wanted sooo bad to experience a vaginal birth. It does make me mad in a sense. I am very happy to have two very healthy children, though. I just wish I could have experienced what so many other Mom's have been able to.



At least I got to experience the labour part. I went into labour both times on my own. My water breaks immediately and it is all pain from there. Hours and hours of pain! lol I just wish at least one of the little bugger's would have came out on their own.



If we have another, I am planning a c-section. Since I highly doubt I can have children vaginally. It is too much stress on the baby to be in labour for as long as I was each time. It is also a much higher risk if you have a c-section while in labour. So, I guess I will have to remain feeling ripped off and just be glad for what is put into my arms after. ;)



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I was stitched and stapled, both times... UGH My scar is not bad either. It is very low and they used the same incision as my first, so only one scar on the outside.



I never got depressed either time...

Patricia - posted on 04/02/2012

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I had no complications with my c-section except that i had an infection in my uterus cuz she pooped in me.. My scar is really nice can barely see it, plus i got stitched not stapled.. Whatever they put in the epi made me real sick, i threw up so much i was dehydrated and my IV's were just sitting in my arms, veins collapsed.. I was itching in between my legs real bad like i had bugs eeww huh ya side effects doc said.. Alot of woman get depressed after child birth so i wondered do they get depressed form their delivery also? Some woman just cant diulate at all.. Plus dont c-sections limit the amount of kids you can have because your lining gets to thin?

Janice - posted on 04/02/2012

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I'm unsure what your asking but if you want experience stories, I'll give mine :)



My daughter was breech. I had no issues physically with my c-section, although I was sad that I wouldnt be going naturally. The recovery wasnt bad at all. The worst part for me was sitting up from lying down.



My son was a VBAC. I went into labor on my own. If I hadn't I would have had a repeat c-section approx. 2 weeks after my due date. I labored with out any drugs and by the time I felt I needed them I progressed to 10cm before they could do the epi. Unfortunately, my son's heart rate dropped and didnt come back up right after the realized he was crowning. So like 15 people rushed in and he was delivered in just 2 pushes and the assistance of forceps. Recovery was awful! I was in horrendous pain despite meds for weeks. I was more active in the weeks after birth with the 2nd so maybe that contributed.



ETA: I was typing while you clarified :)

I was very upset about my c-section which is why I really wanted a VBAC. I am happy that the VBAC worked out despite the pain.

Patricia - posted on 04/02/2012

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Maybe my question was wrong... Do you think ppl have mixed emotions about the birth of their deliveries.. Like for example a woman wants a natural birth and gets c-section do you think she will be depressed or angry after...Or a woman who asked for c-section and was rejected..

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/02/2012

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Kimberly---



I don't tolerate morphine or any of those type of drugs either (makes me very ill), including tylenol 3 with codeine. All I could use after the section was extra stregth tylenol and advil....



I had the epidural and spinal tap for the c-section and man I did not feel well!



I was put to sleep for my daughter but they MADE me stay awake for my son. I did not like that at all.. When he was born, everyone was sooo happy. They were all trying to talk to me. I told them I do NOT want to talk right now! I do NOT feel good. LOL

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/02/2012

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I guess though, I can add, that I have had 2 c-sections. Both were emergency. My daughter after 23 hours of labour and my son after 36 hours of labour. I cannot dilate over 3cm. Not sure why...



I wanted to have a VBAC really bad with my son. I tried very hard. ;) I was not willing to get pitocin though, since it could make your contractions very strong and where I had a c-section previously, I wasn't chancing it.



I don't find the c-sections all that bad. I can't say I enjoyed them but I didn't take long to recover from either of them. 3 weeks and I was taking walks outside. The worst was taking the friggen bandages off. OMG - that hurts!!



I was outside after 12 hours from surgery. I had to have a smoke, even though I stopped while pregnant. I quit again after that one (now I smoke again!). Not sure, just needed one. lol

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I wanted to try vaginal. When I found out I was having twins I knew there was a real possibility that we would have to go c-section, but I still wanted to try.



I needed (for many reasons) to be induced at 37 weeks, but still didn't go into 'real' labor before baby B became distressed. I do wonder sometimes what would've happened w/ less medical intervention, but that thought doesn't last long since I know that baby B dying could have been a real possibility and I'd rather have a million c-sections than take that risk.



I live where VBAC isn't an option, so my son was a scheduled repeat c-section. I recovered from that MUCH easier and faster than from my semi-emergency one.

Patricia - posted on 04/02/2012

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Well when they told me i was gonna have a c-section with my daughter i cried.. Not cuz i was scared i just wanted natural birth.. They tried with my oldest son for stress levels but I argued and won.. My daughter on the other hand made a bm in me, she was breech and so lil.. Her feet were already showing...When i got the c-section it wasnt bad.. It was so fast too, i asked the doctor when are you going to get started and he said,"YOUR BABY WILL BE OUT IN 20 SECONDS". She was, i was like damn where was I!!! lol

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i can't do c-section, lol. i'm too chicken. i'm surprised i'm going to let them cut me open to tie my tubes. but i had my first vaginally, only medication used was pitocin and it didn't do anything until they broke my water, and even then i don't think it did much. i was too chicken to take the epidural either but i didn't need it at all. i didn't feel anything, even when she ripped me, lol. as i said on another thread, i must not have any nerves down there, lol!



i'm hoping to have the same happen this time, maybe without the pitocin. it was nice since we had it scheduled last time so my husband could ask off for that day and the next, but he'd only been at that job for a week or two and at this current one he'll have been there the entire 9mo i've been pregnant, lol, so he'll be able to just call in and be alright. i will refuse a c-section unless absolutely necessary, but doctors around here tend to do c-sections whether they're necessary or not. i doubt that anything will change my mind as long as i can feel when i'm supposed to push.



most of my friends have had c-sections, but i don't know if they were necessary or not. like i said, the docs around here are prone to call for needless c-sections. but most of the friends who had c-sections had epidurals too, and they seem to go hand in hand, lol.



so i'll stay chicken-shit and refuse the epidural this time too, and will tell my doc i don't want a c-section unless i'm about to die, and even then if it's my time i'm willing to go, lol.



i'm so not brave lol xD

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