Does a President/Government Leader's Religion Really Matter?

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This is still a huge issue and debate here in America. Debating weather Pres. Obama is Muslim or Christian. The news reporting that 1 in 5 Americans believe our President is Muslim (even though he says he Christian), and therefore connected to exetremists. Others debate that the country's Founding Fathers were Christian, that any non-Christian could never live up to the standards and beliefs that were instilled 200+ years ago.

So why does a President or any other government official's faith really matter in the grand scheme of things?

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Iris - posted on 08/21/2010

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It shouldn't matter. Politics and religion are suppose to be separate. Why should Obama then come out and declare his faith to any one religion? He is a political figure and should not be using any religion to influence his decisions. So what does it matter what religion he follows in his personal life? By not using God/Allah/Buddah/Krishna etc. in every speech he makes, he's a better politician IMHO.
Every country has many different religions and non religious people, so why should a leader declare to us his faith? Only if he is going to use it in his position should he have to.

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"Would you want a president in power who believed women should sit in the back seat only and not drive? That women should never be alone with any male who is not her blood relative?"

And you think Obama, or any potential Muslim leader, is going to instantly require this for Americans? You can't compare apples to oranges where in America we have religious freedom versus nations that follow strict Islamic law. For teh life of me, I cannot imagine why any elected official would feel the need to hide a secret faith, regardless of the faith. I agree, you're bound to slip up and make a mistake. But does religion really matter? Where in the job description does it state that you have to be a person of a specific religious affiliation in order to fulfill the duties of the elected position? If Obama turns out to be a Muslim I'd be pissed that he lied to the people and he acted like a high school boy by pretending to be someone they were not. But politics have nothing to do with what religion you practice.

Johnny - posted on 08/20/2010

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Would you have voted for a president who had openly stated that he/she was muslim, practiced their beliefs openly, and was in no way directly connected (I'm not talking the 6 degrees kind of connected) with terrrorists? Or does being muslim automatically eliminate someone as a candidate for the presidency?

My current provincial and federal elected officials for my area, both of whom I voted for, are Sikhs. Now many members of the Sikh faith, and people that these individuals both have had "connections" with in the past have been involved historically & currently in violent terrorist actions fighting for a Sikh homeland in India. Many of those crimes & attacks have been perpetrated on Canadian soil and have killed Canadian citizens. In 1985 they killed 331 people in two separate bomb attacks. Radical members of this religion continue to promote terrorism as a solution to these problems.

Both these elected officials have "6 degrees" sort of connections to these radicals. Actually, so do I, one of the accused bombers lives on the property that I grew up on that my grandparents owned. I guess in some people's minds, that makes me a Sikh terrorist.

But I digress, I never thought nor worried about either of these people's religious faith when I went to the polls to vote for them. They both have lengthy records of civic service and have never themselves been radicals or fundamentalists in any way. If they had secret connections to terrorists, I'd be very upset and disturbed. If they were secretly Hindu I'd be pretty choked because they clearly could not tell the truth. But the fact that their religion is tied to great terrorist attacks in our nation in no way negates their work for our country.

If Obama were a secret Muslim, that would be a problem. Anyone running for private office who hides their own deeply held beliefs from the voting populace should be seen as dangerous. It isn't just radical Muslims who have rather reprehensible beliefs about what laws there should be and how people should be treated. However, I have little doubt that he's not a Muslim. I am not entirely sure what he is exactly, but as long as it's not extremist, it probably isn't all that important.

?? - posted on 08/20/2010

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I know many Muslims that have absolutely zero connection with any terrorism in any way, shape or form. To be fearful of a Muslim president because there are insane terrorist attackers that are Muslim is a tad silly. Unless you fear a Christian president because of a possibility that they're connected to the KKK too.

Again, far fetched and ridiculous.

Elected officials with secret ties to terrorist organizations... that could be anyone. In the past, unless I have been insanely misinformed, there have been many US elected officials that have direct affiliations with organizations that are now considered terrorists. Bin Laden, Hussein... both of these characters had direct contact and had ample opportunity to form "secret" ties with elected officials. George Bush included.


It's weird, it's all conspiracy. You might as well be afraid of Oprah cause I'm sure she could tie up with anyone and take over the world in the blink of an eye :p

?? - posted on 08/20/2010

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I think it's the potentially SECRET that is frightful. Not if he was an open, worshiping, honest to goodness Muslim. It's the possibility that he's SECRETLY a Muslim. At least that's what I figured Sharon meant. I apologize, Sharon, if I misinterpreted, that's just how I read that.

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Personally I think that religion should not enter the political arena regardless of the religion/ belief (atheist, agnotic etc) because they are 2 completely separate things. Also a persons religion/ belief is NOT an indication of their character so it is not relevant; to me it's like asking what colour undies they wear it makes no difference to their policies and their political beliefs!

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I'm with the female, atheist, childless woman living in a de facto relationship! Far better policies and qualities than what's-his-name!

Ez - posted on 08/21/2010

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Nope. Not even remotely. We just had a Federal election here in Aus today, but our current PM is an athiest and a woman. I can't imagine how that would go down in the States, but it's a positive for a lot of Aussies. People's religious beliefs should be private and have nothing to do with their professional lives.

Charlie - posted on 08/20/2010

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Our Pm is an atheist woman ( and i hope she stays PM after our election today )

I believe regardless of whether religion matters or not , religion ALWAYS makes a huge impact on the decision making of a person in power its part of the persons moral fiber i cannot think of many that wouldn't impose their beliefs on decisions made in power .

Nikki - posted on 08/20/2010

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I think it depends on the individual and their agenda. In Australia we are having a federal election today to vote for Prime Minister, Tony Abbot the current opposition leader is a Christian, and has made it very clear throughout his entire campaign where his personal values lie, women in the kitchen, no sex before marriage, anti abortion, anti gays, I find his personal preferences very off putting, he is supposed to be representing a political party and their values, not his own personal ones.

So I think it depends, it's not something I have ever considered until this election, for all I know our last Prime Minister was a Satanist, regardless, he never let it get in the way of his position, which is something I respect.

?? - posted on 08/20/2010

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"Would you want a president in power who believed women should sit in the back seat only and not drive? That women should never be alone with any male who is not her blood relative?"

This is why I find it ridiculous to entertain notions that Obama is a Muslim. You'd see so many signs that imply those are his true beliefs. There's no way any person could go that long without at least slipping up, in some way, to show their true intentions. He might be a smooth talker but he's just not that good.

Like I said, the Muslims I know, they'd never hide their faith. And the Muslims that are insane (the ones everyone is worried about) I don't think they'd have the ability to hide their dedication to their faith.

So I really do find it hard to believe that Obama is some insane Muslim terrorist that is undercover in the White House waiting for the perfect moment to strike against the USA. It's all so far-fetched.


It'd be pretty crazy if it were true though! Everyone would be like "I TOLD YOU SO!" and "AHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHHHHIT!" Then Obama would HAVE to get a Mini-Me......

Sharon - posted on 08/20/2010

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Sorry - but currently christians are fairly tame in their recruiting practices. they've outgrown murder to attain heaven.



However - people keep turning up with terrorist ties and everyone around them says "I never knew."



What I know of the religion - its a beautiful thing and from listening to various muslim leaders and others who know better than I - the terrorists have really warped it.



Would you want a muslim extremist* president in power who believed women should sit in the back seat only and not drive? That women should never be alone with any male who is not her blood relative?



6 degrees of seperation - does not mean you have terrorist ties, just that in some way you've had contact with them. I can think of several ways/times/ through people I know that I've probably come into contact with people who either were terrorists or had ties to the organisations.



* edited to add clarifying words

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It reminds me of "6 Degrees of Separation" in the thinking that people are somehow connected to everyone through 6 separations. So with that theory, we are all connected to terrorists! Presidents in the past have all had their share of secrets that caused a scandel. But a secret religion does seem far-fetched and another reason to unleash propaganda.

Sharon - posted on 08/20/2010

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I'm sorry but currently our insane terrorist attackers are all muslim. Yeah - I wouldn't want one as a president right now, ESPECIALLY a "secret" one. WHY be secretive about it? Why is there doubt? I don't actually think Obama is secretly muslim, btw, I do think he's less than honest in so many things.

And yeah an elected official with secret ties to a terrorist organistion cannot perform their duties for the country they are suppoesd to be protecting.

Johnny - posted on 08/20/2010

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I agree, it doesn't matter what his faith is. However, if for any reason he is keeping his true beliefs a secret, that would be rather concerning. I'd be just as bothered if he turned out to be a secret Catholic as if he turned out to be a secret Muslim.

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What is you fear about a potentially Muslim leader? And is there a reason why any elected official cannot perform the job duties and suport their faith independent of one another?

?? - posted on 08/20/2010

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I find it hard to believe in the idea of a "secret" Muslim. There are too many requirements in the faith to keep it a secret. The only place he'd be able to really be "true" to his faith would be in the shitter with the doors shut, locked.

What's he going to do? Randomly one day, change ALL the laws, put on his Muslim garb, come out on the white house steps and say " HAHA GOT YA! "

It all seems really...... far fetched :\

Sharon - posted on 08/20/2010

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I would be ok with our president being jewish, or hindu, or atheist. But a potentially secret muslim scares me right now.

Yeah - religion matters. I'd never vote for a satanist. I'd probably vote for a wiccan.

?? - posted on 08/20/2010

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It doesn't matter. It's just another thing people can/will pick at in order to divert attention from issues that really need to be addressed but are 'too hard' or don't have an easy solution.

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