Does money bring happiness??

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 08/20/2010 ( 34 moms have responded )

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Can money bring true happiness……or should you just buy it?

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Sarah - posted on 08/23/2010

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I agree with Jessica.
While I don't think that money can buy you happiness, I DO think that having money makes being happy a whole lot easier!

I think those who are able to live "comfortably" are more likely to say "Money can't buy you happiness". Those who struggle from day to day to make ends meet, are more likely to see money as something that could bring a new level of happiness for them.

Of course happiness is more about the people you share your life with, your kids, your family, your friends etc. All of those good things though are kind of marred if you have no food in the cupboard, if your child is missing out on trips, if you're spending 90% of your time worrying about how you're going to survive.

I think that money can provide security and a standard of life that WILL make people happier. I don't think you have to be rich to be happy, but I do think you have to have a certain level of income that you can survive on comfortably to make you happy.

Tara - posted on 08/22/2010

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Nope. I believe that some of the happiest people on earth are those who do not depend on money.
The value placed on things is far too great in its correlation to ones own sense of happiness.
That said, money can relieve the socio-economic stresses enough that you can enjoy the little things more, but again that is only because of the dependence on money related lifestyle.
However, I would love to win the lottery!
:)Tara

Caitlin - posted on 08/23/2010

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As my husband says. "Money can't buy happiness, but it can make misery a hell of a lot more interesting."

I wish we had money - buying groceries is becoming a challenge, we get phone calls almost every week because we are behind on all of our bills (except our car/mortgage). Last night my daughter had a severe reaction to food - needed an epi-pen and a trip to the hospital, the epi-pen is 100$ (our insurance has us pay up front, they reimburse by check after). I don't know where i'm going to find 100$ for a new epi-pen, but she needs it obviously. I lvoe my family, and I consider myself to be a very happy person overall, because I appreciate what I have, but seriously, if I had at least a bit more money, it would take so much stress off my shoulders!

Mary - posted on 08/23/2010

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I agree with Sarah. There is a huge difference between being wealthy, and worrying about where your next meal is coming from, or if you are going to have a home to live in tomorrow. No, extreme wealth does not automatically equate to happiness, but living under the constant strain of struggling to maintain the bare necessities of everyday life makes happiness fairly elusive. I think this is the point Jessica is trying to make as well. It's not that suddenly becoming rich would guarantee her happiness...but not living with the constant strain and fear of hunger and homelessness would certainly go a long way to enabling her to freely enjoy the things she does have in life.

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"I don't believe LOTS of money can, I believe that it creates unhappiness in families" - Jessica

Just to expand on this point a little, for many people who become rich very quickly the money brings a whole host of new problems and unhappiness, demonstrating that happiness is not reliant on money! As I said earlier - having money can reduce your stress NOT give you happiness regardless of what paths it takes you down, I completely agree with Tara the happiest people are often the ones who have no/ very little money!

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Karen - posted on 08/25/2010

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Happiness to me is brought by spending time with my gorgeous children, money will never buy that feeling...........

Meghan - posted on 08/23/2010

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I don't think it buys true happiness. But I am always a little more at ease when I get paid and know that my bills are paid.

Kayle - posted on 08/23/2010

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Money doesn't bring happiness but it does make it a hell of a lot easier. But you have to have love, good friends and support too not just money.

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I do agree we are all arguing the same point from different angles money does not buy you happiness but having money helps you enjoy the happiness you have :-)

Krista - posted on 08/23/2010

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So we are all debating but we all agree that money does not buy happiness just comfort and security which can free up space in which to enjoy other activities that DO bring happiness ?

That sounds about right. Money stress seeps out into everything. So if the money stress is gone, then you are much more mentally free to enjoy things like your family and friends.

Charlie - posted on 08/23/2010

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Yeah i actually read the post and i understand better where you are coming from .



Hope things get easier for you soon Jessica .

Jessica - posted on 08/23/2010

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Lol. Mary, yes that is it exactly.

Loureen, I think we may be saying the same things from different viewpoints so it has become a communication breakdown. I'm not very good at trying to explain my point of view. I wanted to explain a bit about my situation in the hopes that it would help others to better understand what I am trying to say but I didn't really think it through and felt uncomfortable putting such information on the internet lol. The basic gist of it was my overall income doesn't cover the bare expenditure. Which in turn causes so much stress that I am unable to live in the moments where happiness does occur. I am by no means destitute in the sense of developing countries but I am so lucky that I have such an awesome family that help me financially as well as emotionally.

Charlie - posted on 08/23/2010

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So we are all debating but we all agree that money does not buy happiness just comfort and security which can free up space in which to enjoy other activities that DO bring happiness ?

Edited : sorry i see you deleted your last post so the rest isnt relevant if you do not wish to discuss :)

Jessica - posted on 08/23/2010

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Sorry, had to delete my last post as I felt uncomfortable exposing my life like that. Should have thought it through, sorry.

Thanks Sarah, you have put it better than I ever could have.

Jessica - posted on 08/23/2010

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I also stated that it is what money represents that can bring some happiness. The *ability* to provide for your family. Does that not make you happy? Knowing that you are fulfilling the needs of your family? It sure would make me happy. I fulfill my son's needs in terms of time spent with him and loving him. Effort spent in raising a person who, I hope, will become a good and well-rounded person. But if I can't keep a roof over his head, food in his belly and a shirt on his back there is something seriously wrong about that and it physically saddens me that I am not able to fully support my son the way I would like to. The only reason I still have a place to stay is because my parents have *very* generously paid my last and next 3 months rent. I am paying them a measly £20 a month to pay them back. That is all I can afford as I am having to save up to pay my rent and bills and creditors and all the little things that seem to consistently burn a hole in my pocket. My son wasn't able to go on a field trip with his nursery last week because I couldn't afford the measly £25 that they needed to take him. How is that fair? How is that generating happiness. I also have to point out that my son being happy is what makes me the happiest. If my son is *never* able to go on day trips or school trips with his friends because I can't afford it, that would make me sad. Yes, it is about the people you surround yourself with and what you make of the time spent with them, but it is also about allowing my son the same opportunities as every other child in his class. The same level footing and starting plate as all those other kids.

Jessica - posted on 08/23/2010

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I'm not saying that money can buy you happiness. I know that happiness is something that we generate in ourselves. My point is merely that with financial security (i.e. knowing my bills are covered, mainly) allows me to generate the happiness in myself in more abundance. I have stated several times that money in and of itself cannot make me happy, having the opportunities that having just enough money bring, to relax with my friends and my family without having to worry about these things does. I don't want lots of money, that would mean time away from my son that is just too precious to miss. I am on about just enough money to get by on without having to constantly borrow money from family and friends to cover bills and buy food, which is what I am currently having to do.

Stifler's - posted on 08/22/2010

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Loureen has a point. Money isn't anything if you have a good relationship and friends. We used to have nothing and hardly any money to live on let alone save and life was good. We had friends and good times. Then we moved here and he got a better job and can save money and still live BUT HE IS ALWAYS AT WORK. Everything is about money with people who live here what they have and what they're planning to buy. I miss being poor sometimes just for the fact that we had more time together and to catch up with friends.

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Jessica I apologise if you feel I have ignored anything you have said I have not, I completely understood what you were saying in your previous post about money as a abstract concept, I feel it is the ideology that money stands for and the things that this brings which people misinterpret as happiness.

I understand that we as a society need money to function (and even 'poorer' societies use trade) BUT this societal need cannot dictate hapiness, people can have all the money in the world and still be unhappy! I disagree that how you use money can affect TRUE happiness because that can only come from within you, you can get a certain amount of relief from money but it is not true happiness.

Are you saying that you are never happy because you are struggling financially? Do you never look at your son and just feel 'that' feeling - which is pure content? Or never have 'that feeling from making someones day by smiling at them? Or by helping an elderly person? You get the idea! I imagine that there are times when you are very happy and 'forget' about your financial situation - THAT is true happiness! That is happiness that no amount of money can ever change.

As for using a straw man fallacy (had to google that one, I have never heard it before) to make your point redundant - I thought you made an excellent point and I just wanted to expand on it. I have read everything you have said and you make some really good points, but there are points I disagree with.

Jessica - posted on 08/22/2010

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I think I understand what you are trying to say but I feel that you are not listening to what I am trying to say. You seem to have completely ignored my last post and are using a straw man fallacy to argue your point and make mine redundant.

Jessica - posted on 08/22/2010

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Also, money is an abstract concept. You have money in your pocket and you don't realise that is just paper and metal. So when you talk about money bringing you happiness, your not actually talking about the money itself. You are talking about what it represents. What it represents is the ability to obtain the things you need and want. Yes we are dependent on money in today's society but we have always been dependent on the concept of trade because it has been thousands of years since we were able to provide all that our family needs by ourselves. We as a society could not function without this concept of trade and by extension, the modern invention of money. This means that taking the question of does money bring you happiness at face value is a ridiculous proposition. So any happiness that money could bring you comes from how you use it and what you use it for and yes happiness does come from within but a lot of the time it requires an external stimuli to counteract any negative stimuli that is preventing you from being happy. In my case, a lack of financial stability.

Jessica - posted on 08/22/2010

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Money in and of itself can't make me happy, but the roads it leads me down can. That is the point I am trying to make. I cannot truely enjoy the 'happy' moments in my life when all I can think about is my son's next meal an where it is coming from, how I am going to pay my next bill. So in a way, I believe it can. I don't believe LOTS of money can, I believe that it creates unhappiness in families. But financial security is something that would make me happy. Knowing my son is provided for and has the best possible start in life that I can give him. That is what would make me happy and that requires money.

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Money cannot make you happy Jessica - yes it can make you less stressed out so you have the time and energy to see the happiness around you but it cannot make you truely happy. True happiness comes from within BUT can have external stimuli (ie. your children).

Jessica - posted on 08/22/2010

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Money can bring security and being secure means being more relaxed and happy about your situation.



Currently I'm not happy. Because I'm not financially secure, it's a real stress issue. I can't be happy if I am stressed.



I don't think money itself can bring happiness, but it sure can lead the way.



EDIT: I have just read through what everyone else has put and have to say that I disagree to some extent. I AM poor, my son is considered a child of poverty because we live below the breadline. ALL my money goes onto bills and getting me to an from work. Having money WOULD make me happy because it means that I wouldn't have to worry where my son's next meal is coming from or whether i can find the money to pay that water bill.

I agree that in other aspects of my life, money wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to my happiness, for e.g. watching my son grow, playing with him, teaching him, so on and so forth. HOWEVER, the stress of wondering if I can feed my son is much greater. It's not all hogwash, money can lead the way to being a better and happier person.

Charlie - posted on 08/21/2010

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Nope .

I lived in Tonga , they arent rich they live of the land and sea and are the happiest people i know .
Happy people are people who are thankful for what they have no matter how much or little it is .
But i sure would be happy if i won the lottery :D

Becky - posted on 08/21/2010

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I have lived among some of the poorest people in the world - people who live on less than $2.00 a day. They are far happier (and more generous and hospitable too!) than many wealthy people I know. So no, I absolutely do not think money brings happiness. Like others said, it makes life easier, but true happiness comes from within yourself, not from your possessions or your life's circumstances.

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Money and happiness are not related. Having enough money to cover all the expenses and hopefully have a little extra certainly makes life easier (at least I'm assuming it would...), but if you can't find true contentment w/out money than I don't feel that any 'happiness' you can buy would be worth it.

C. - posted on 08/20/2010

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No amount of money can bring TRUE happiness. That's a huge load of poop.

I believe Lindsay H put it perfectly.

Abby - posted on 08/20/2010

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Money makes things easier. Happiness comes from different places and means different things for different people. Money itself doesn't equal happiness to me. Having a safe home with the things that meet the needs of all family members; shelter, food, warmth and love. Those are the things that lead to my true happiness. Knowing that my daughters heart is content and her imagination, mind and body has everything it needs to grow; those are the things that can come with no money or with money.

So I don't believe that money is essential to true happiness, but I do believe that we need money to let things happen that help to make us happy.

Lindsay - posted on 08/20/2010

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Can money bring true happiness? No, it can't. Money can cut down on some stresses of being poor but in general, if you are unhappy before you have money, you'll remain that way with it. Luxuries are fun and a nice perk, but they shouldn't define you as a person or define how happy/unhappy you are with life in general.

Jocelyn - posted on 08/20/2010

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I don't believe that it brings happiness on it's own, but it can certianly enhance the happiness that you already have.

Jessica - posted on 08/20/2010

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No, but neither does being poor!

Lol. I'm at a point where I'm struggling to find "true" happiness and get caught in the trap of, "Well if we only had this..." or "If only we could do that..". The main things that seem to be grating on me now do stem from not having enough money. Like, when we don't have enough food in the house and can't afford to go buy more. And- I totally hate my house. I hate saying that because I am grateful that we were able to buy our own home and have a place to live. But it has so many problems- mostly aesthetical, but also needs things like plumbing and electrical updates. We live in a crappy city neighborhood on a busy road- I can't even take my son for a walk down the street. Our neighbors are unfriendly and loud and we have to hear them on a regular basis. Everything about this place makes me uncomfortable and I can't help but feel if we lived somewhere where I REALLY want to live- a house that has air conditioning and a working shower, for example, somewhere more rural than this- I would be a lot happier. And the only thing stopping all this is money.

Then again, maybe not. I also tend to think even if I had these things, there would always just be something else to be unhappy about.

Wow I went on a tangent there!

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