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Sherri - posted on 01/03/2011 ( 38 moms have responded )

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Okay a spin off from another thread. If you don't smoke in your home, do you smoke in your car? With or without your kids in it?

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Jodi - posted on 01/04/2011

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@ Trish, If you fall asleep driving that easily that you MUST have a cigarette in the car with your children, do you really think you SHOULD be driving any distances with your children at all? And if so, why can't you just pull over and get out of the car to have your cigarette? This has the added advantage of having a little walk around the car to get the blood pumping.



Are you also aware that the smoke will STILL be in the car even if you do have the window open? Also, if you are driving at any sort of speed, the ash can ALSO come back into the car (as an ex smoker, I know this, because I used to smoke in my car before children, and that's what happens).



Finally, why is it not ok to smoke with the baby in the car, but it is ok to smoke with a 3 year old in the car. I don't understand that, because it affects both of them in the same way.

Jodi - posted on 01/04/2011

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Trish, for the safety of both your children AND other people on the road, I personally think you shouldn't drive any distance at all. You are putting other people in danger. Knowing you have this issue, you really shouldn't rely on a cigarette to keep you going. It is an issue of safety. This is about more than cigarette smoke affecting your children's health.

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Ok, sorry -- I'm sure my comment did nothing but make you feel worse. I just have a really hard time with this, and I too, smoked A LOT for many years and still have the occasional smoke. I'm not so much concerned with him or his health but I just don't understand why he won't go outside or refrain from hot boxing a car full of kids? Ask him how he's gonna feel when one of your children ends up with lung cancer or has serious breathing problems. It's one thing to slowly kill himself one cigarette at a time but...your kids? That's not fair. I don't mean to sound harsh but....

It's just not fair...

Caitlin - posted on 01/04/2011

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Trish - my dad had that problem.. he has sleep apnea. That can be realted to weight (like it can get worse the heavier you are) but my dad isn't a big guy, he's acutally quite skinny. A sleep study would rule that one out, but if that's the issue, sleep apnea can cause you to be tired like that, doze while driving, doze while watching TV, it can even CAUSE (or not help) weight gain. Just putting that out there, because it's really easy to treat for the most part (he wears a pressurized mask when he sleeps that kicks in when his breathing stops, and that prevents him from waking up 80-100 times a night - which is what he tested at during the test. They test how many times you body goes from deep sleep into a shallower sleep due to breathing changes)

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Hubby never smokes in the house. He smokes in the car when it's only him in it and I hate it. It stinks the whole car out and I worry about 3rd hand smoke lingering on our sons car seat. He usually takes the car seat out when he thinks about it, but I still find it really annoying and we've had a few heated discussions about it.

Trish - posted on 01/04/2011

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My husband was tested for his job. He has moderate sleep apnea; although, I think they are fibbing just to sell his company a c-pap. He never had problems with sleeping or being sleepy when awake, He doesn't snore or anything. Now the mask forces him to sleep on his back and wakes him up all all the time. Now he is tired all the time.

Since the drowsiness only kicks in after 20 minutes or so of being in a moving vehicle only, I don't think I have sleep apnea, but I have not done a sleep study so don't know for sure. I do snore now. Can't afford a sleep study right now. My husband works nights, we only have the one car, and I'm still breast feeding.

Rosie - posted on 01/04/2011

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yeah i know dana, and unfortunately i used to too. i know i'm horrible. so everytime i bring it up he says i'm a hypocrite and have no room to make him feel guilty for doing it. i don't know what to say to him without being a huge bitch, cause i know that won't work. i'm stressed lately about it. his smoking is really turning me off, he stinks, his breath is god awful, i'm worried about his health (he's got borderline high blood pressure) and i just don't know how to get him to realize that what he's doing is horrid for him AND us. i tried a little this morning, he dismissed me, called me a hypocrite, and i told him i knew that, but i'm worried about him. he seemed to understand that, but it won't change his mind. *sigh* i don't know what to do.

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I never smoke in my car, even if my son's not in it. Before he was born, we had a different car and yes, in all of my previous cars I smoked. Found out I was pregnant, got a safer car and haven't ever smoked in it.

Trish - posted on 01/04/2011

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I weight 350lbs. No matter the reason I go to a doc, I'm told it is because of my weight. Doesn't matter if the condition pre-exists my weight gain or not. My first accident was in High School when I weighted 115lbs. The second accident was in college when I weighted 145lbs. I know my limits since I've been dealing with it for such a long time. I think it is because as a kid we always slept in the family vehicle. We lived a long way from anywhere. The closest town was over an hour away. The bus ride to school was an hour and half. We always slept on the bus. Mom would keep blankets in the car/truck and us kids would curl up on the seat or floor for the duration of family trips anywhere. Boats, planes, trains, buses, and so on all make me tired. It is the motion of the vehicle that does it to me.

Sherri - posted on 01/04/2011

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Okay I will admit I don't smoke in my house but I do smoke in the car with or without my kids. Not something I am proud of but I am being honest.

Meghan - posted on 01/04/2011

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I do not smoke in the house and I don't smoke in the car while he is in it...I DO occasionally smoke on my way to/from school when I know he is getting picked up by my mom or hours later or if I am out and about and he is gone for the weekend.

Rosie - posted on 01/04/2011

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i was horrible and i did when i smoked. it was one of those things that i felt i HAD to do, like smoke after eating. my husband still does and smokes in the car, and it pisses me off. i feel so bad for doing it before, gah! i wish i can get him to stop, he's just not in the mind set yet, and i don't know how to get him there without being a pushy bitch cause i know that doesn't work.

Joanna - posted on 01/04/2011

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I did until I got a newer car. It was before I had kids, but I figured smoking in the car would lower the resale value.

Ez - posted on 01/04/2011

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Wow Trish, it sounds like you shouldn't be driving at all! Have you spoken to your doctor about this?

Trish - posted on 01/04/2011

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Of course smoking around kids is bad. Even though I grew up with all adults smoking all around us all the time. I remember walking into my grandparent's house and it being so thick with smoke it was like walking in fog. Yes, smoke is bad, but considering a lot of us grew up with in-house and in-car smokers and survived (and dare I say thrive), there are certainly worse things in life.

But that aside, I only do it when I have to. Three times in a year is unlikely to do any significant harm to my children, even the baby if it comes to that. I am aware of all the other problems that come from smoking in the car. I've smoked off and on for almost 25 years now.

I do use other things to keep me awake while driving including pulling over and stretching, using eye drops, drinking, eating, using cold air, slapping myself, pinching myself, singing with the radio, talking on the phone (texting but only when there is no traffic and NOT with kids in the car), and even reading (reading works the best, actually, but I only do it on interstates and, of course, not with kids in the car). Smoking is the best temporary way to keep me awake on drives that last longer than 20 minutes.

I've always had this problem. I've been in several accidents due to my sleeping while driving. On a long distance road trip with my husband I spelled him for a bit. Even carrying on a conversation with him I fell asleep. Driving around town is usually not a problem. Again, if it is for longer than 20 minutes I may doze off at a red light, but I have my tricks and use them. I'm getting worse with age and know it. Like I said, my husband usually does the driving.

Tara - posted on 01/04/2011

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@Trish,
I agree with what Jodi said, smoking around any kid is bad, it doesn't matter how old they are. I know a smoker who will smoke with her 4 year old in the car but not her 6 month old, her reasoning is that her four year old has a better immune system than the new baby and therefore can "handle it better" lol no body gets immune to second hand smoke, and no one's immune system is going to be better off around smokers than not.
I also worry about your dozing whilst driving, seems dangerous to me, and if smoking keeps you from dozing, wouldn't a fake cigarette keep you from dozing equally as well? Or a cup of coffee? Or a pencil between your fingers? What about singing or playing word games with the kids?
There surely must be a healthier and safer way to keep awake.
I know it's hard for smokers, I was a lifer until this past September, but never smoked in the van.
It's illegal to smoke in a vehicle with kids under 16 in Ontario Canada. And I know people who have been caught and charged, they bitch about it being their "right" to smoke in THEIR car!!
But they don't smoke in their homes.... I don't get it at all.
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Tara - posted on 01/04/2011

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nope, I didn't smoke in the car, whether they were in or out of it, I hated the smell of a stinky ashtray, so I could imagine how the kids felt about it.
My mom used to smoke in the car when I was a kid and even with the window down it made my nasal passages hurt and it felt like my eyes were on fire.
Smoking is a nasty habit, hard to break, but only the smoker should have to suffer the second hand smoke.

Jenn - posted on 01/04/2011

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Brian never smoked in the car with the kids, but he did without the kids. Thankfully he's just quit so it's not an issue anymore. It's also illegal to smoke in your car with kids in it here.

Jodi - posted on 01/04/2011

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Good luck Esther!!! My hubby and I gave up 18 months ago (after more than 20 years of smoking). I haven't had an issue, hubby relapsed once for a couple of days, but was smart enough to throw the pack out and get back on track. It isn't easy. It's great he has decided to give up, and I wish him all the best with it. May he do as well as we have done!!!

Jodi - posted on 01/04/2011

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Good point Katherine. That happened to me once years ago too, now that I think about it, and it burned a hole in the seat in the back. Imagine if there'd been a kid there?

Esther - posted on 01/04/2011

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I have never smoked a cigarette in my life thankfully, but my husband is a fairly heavy smoker (although he quit 2 weeks ago). He has never ever smoked in the house or in the car and when he smokes he does so outside away from the house where our son cannot see him and he changes his shirt and washes his hands when he comes back into the house. If we go out as a family he leaves his cigarettes home. He has always gone out of his way to make sure it does not affect our son but now that he's 3 and is more perceptive (and asking where dad goes several times a day when he "disappears") he has mustered up the courage to try to quit. So keep your fingers crossed for him!

Katherine - posted on 01/04/2011

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Not only ashes but the cigarette could fly back in. I've had that happen too.

Before I had kids.
I agree with Jodi on all points.

Trish - posted on 01/04/2011

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Once my son turned three (he is now four), I have smoked in the car with the windows down with just him in the car (not with baby). I don't smoke a lot and mostly for religious reasons, but I also use smoking to keep me awake at the wheel. I am one of those people who falls asleep driving very easily. I would rather smoke a little than doze, especially if the kids are in the car. My husband does almost all of the long distance driving and I have not smoked in the car at all with the soon to be one year old in it. When I feel the need to smoke to stay awake with my son in the car, I do it with the window open as far as he can handle it, the cig at or out the window and I blow the smoke straight out the window. Thankfully it has been very rare that I have done this. Only three times that I can think of all of last year.

Katherine - posted on 01/04/2011

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The lingering smell is nasty. I have an e-cigarette. I really should use it.

Sarah - posted on 01/04/2011

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Nope. Smoking in cars has always made me feel sick (I'm a terrible traveller!)

My Dad used to smoke in the car when I was a kid........which didn't help the travel sickness! I think smoking in the car is gross to be honest. :)

Jocelyn - posted on 01/03/2011

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Nope, never in the house, never in the car (with or without children, it doesn't matter...)

Lacye - posted on 01/03/2011

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Nope! I will light one up when she is not with me but the windows are rolled down.

Jodi - posted on 01/03/2011

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I never did, when I was a smoker. It is now illegal to smoke in the car with kids where I live, as it should be. Smoking in a car is such a small confined space, it's just wrong.

Katherine - posted on 01/03/2011

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Nope, no car, no house. I have smoked in the car without them in it, but on very rare occasion.

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I smoke in my car very rarely when I don't have my kids with me, if they are with me I get out and smoke. Just like on the very very rare occasion when all my kids are elsewhere, which is almost never, I have smoked in the house if I'm all buzzed up.

Lindsay - posted on 01/03/2011

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I don't smoke in my car. I don't smoke in my home. Period. I never smoked in my car or my home before having kids either.

Ez - posted on 01/03/2011

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Nope.. not at all. I don't ever smoke when my daughter is around. If we are outside playing, I do not smoke. I don't take my cigarettes with me when we go out during the day. I only smoke on my front verandah when she is inside.

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