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Amanda - posted on 05/24/2011 ( 333 moms have responded )

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Just want to see who out there believes in God. and if you don't why.

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Krista - posted on 05/28/2011

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Amanda, just to illustrate the point I'm making, I'd like to share a story:



A couple moved to my small town last year. Nice couple, in their 40's. Immediately joined the local Presbyterian church and attended regularly. Volunteered at the church dinners and got to know people. Then, they mentioned a business opportunity that they were looking at, which had a very high potential, and they were looking for investors. Their fellow congregants opened their chequebooks and gave them thousands of dollars.



They skipped town. They haven't been seen or heard from since.



Several of their victims were interviewed by the media, and were asked how they could have trusted these people that they had only known for a month or so, and every single victim said a variation on the same theme:



"Of course I trusted them! They were Christians!"



So my husband and I are mistrusted by virtue of being atheists, even though we have never hurt anybody and have been productive and helpful members of our community.



But these criminals were given 100% unquestioning trust, simply because they knew their Bible passages, went to church, and acted like they were good Christians.



I tell you this tale not to denigrate your faith, but because it seems that you have this same blind spot -- giving blind trust to anything wearing the mantle of Christianity.



And unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there who are only too happy to take advantage of that blind trust.



So be wise, and balance your Christian heart with some good old-fashioned critical thinking, okay?

Mary - posted on 05/26/2011

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I just don't get why either belief or disbelief in "God" needs to be so adversarial. To me, this is such a personal issue, and really, the beliefs that an of you possess has absolutely no bearing on my own - unless I am so shaky in my stance that the opinions of others allow doubts to creep in. In that case, I may need to re-explore my own faith, or lack thereof.

I do, however, want to offer this observation. It seems that whenever the question of religious beliefs come up here, it ends up in some unkind, belittling, and derogatory comments from both ends of the spectrum.

One side says "If you don't believe in God, you are amoral, and doomed to burn in hell". The other side comes up with retorts that suggest the believers are unintelligent, non-intellectual fools that subscribe to fairy tales. IMO, both the believers and the non-believers are behaving in a rather immature, prejudiced, and rude fashion that doesn't speak highly for either "side" of this fence.

Charlie - posted on 05/28/2011

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Here are 11 things that are technically banned by the Bible.

Round haircuts. See you in Hell, Beatles... and/or kids with bowl cuts, surfer cuts or (my favorite) butt cuts. Leviticus 19:27 reads "You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard."

Football. At least, the pure version of football, where you play with a pigskin. The modern synthetic footballs are ugly and slippery anyways. Leviticus 11:8, which is discussing pigs, reads "You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you."

And you're doubly breaking that if you wake up, eat some sausage then go throw around the football. Or go to the county fair and enter a greased pig catching contest.

Fortune telling. Before you call a 900 number (do people still call 900 numbers, by the way?), read your horoscope or crack open a fortune cookie, realize you're in huge trouble if you do.

Leviticus 19:31 reads "Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God." The penalty for that? Check Leviticus 20:6: "As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set My face against that person and will cut him off from among his people."

Seems like a lifetime of exile is a pretty harsh penalty for talking to Zoltar.

Pulling out. The Bible doesn't get too much into birth control... it's clearly pro-populating but, back when it was written, no one really anticipated the condom or the sponge, so those don't get specific bans.

But... pulling out does. One of the most famous sexual-oriented Bible verses... the one that's used as anti-masturbation rhetoric... is actually anti-pulling out.

It's Genesis 38:9-10: "Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also."

Yep -- pull out and get smote. That's harsh.

Tattoos. No tattoos. Leviticus 19:28 reads, "You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord."

Not even a little butterfly on your ankle. Or Thug Life across your abdomen. Or even, fittingly enough, a cross.

Polyester, or any other fabric blends. The Bible doesn't want you to wear polyester. Not just because it looks cheap. It's sinfully unnatural.

Leviticus 19:19 reads, "You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together."

Check the tag on your shirt right now. Didn't realize you were mid-sin at this exact second, did you? (Unless you checked the tag by rolling off your neighbor's wife while you two were having anal sex in the middle of robbing a blind guy. Then your Lycra-spandex blend is really the least of your problems.)

Divorce. The Bible is very clear on this one: No divorcing. You can't do it. Because when you marry someone, according to Mark 10:8, you "are no longer two, but one flesh." And, Mark 10:9 reads, "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."

Mark gets even more hardcore about it a few verses later, in Mark 10:11-12, "And He said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.'"

Letting people without testicles into church. Whether you've been castrated or lost one or two balls to cancer isn't important. The Bible doesn't get that specific. It just says you can't pray.

Deuteronomy 23:1 reads (this is the God's Word translation, which spells it out better), "A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord."

Oh, and the next verse says that if you're a bastard, the child of a bastard... or even have a great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild of a bastard, you can't come to church or synagogue either. Deuteronomy 23:2 reads, "No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

Wearing gold. 1 Timothy 2:9 doesn't like your gold necklace at all. Or your pearl necklace. Or any clothes you're wearing that you didn't get from Forever 21, Old Navy or H&M.

"Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments."

Shellfish. Leviticus 11:10 reads, "But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you." And shellfish is right in that wheelhouse.

Leviticus 11 bans a TON of animals from being eaten (it's THE basis for Kosher law); beyond shellfish and pig, it also says you can't eat camel, rock badger, rabbit, eagle, vulture, buzzard, falcon, raven, crow, ostrich, owl, seagull, hawk, pelican, stork, heron, bat, winged insects that walk on four legs unless they have joints to jump with like grasshoppers (?), bear, mole, mouse, lizard, gecko, crocodile, chameleon and snail.

Sorry if that totally ruins your plans to go to a rock badger eat-off this weekend.

Your wife defending your life in a fight by grabbing your attacker's genitals. No joke. Deuteronomy actually devotes two verses to this exact scenario: Deuteronomy 25:11-12.

"If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity."

That's impossible to misinterpret. Ladies, if your husband is getting mugged, make sure to kick the mugger in the pills. Do not do the grip and squeeze (no matter what "Miss Congeniality" might advise). Or your hand needs to be cut off.

As a final note, I know that nine of these 11 cite the Old Testament, which Christianity doesn't necessarily adhere to as law.

To which I say: If you're going to ignore the section of Leviticus that bans about tattoos, pork, shellfish, round haircuts, polyester and football, how can you possibly turn around and quote Leviticus 18:22 ("You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.") as irrefutable law?

But that's me trying to introduce logic to religious fanaticism (or, at least, trying to counter some mix of ignorance, bigotry and narcissism with logic). And I should probably know better.

Kate CP - posted on 05/25/2011

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"can science explain this...(true story my I heard at a revival) a man died and was already inbalmed. While they were having his funeral he rose from the dead...no one but God can do that ppl."

Okay, I have several questions for you.

1) Why THAT man? Why was HE so special that God granted HIM a second life?
2) Was this in a vampire novel?
3) Do you have a link to the news article following this event? Because any person who rises from the dead (especially after being embalmed) would be news-worthy.
4) Do you know what embalming entails? Embalming would render a body non-functioning. So even if a person were embalmed while still alive it would kill them. A body could not physically function or move after being embalmed. It is not physically possible.

Petra - posted on 05/25/2011

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I believe... that modern religion is nothing more than mythology taken literally. I am and always have been a hard line atheist and see religion as a very, very effective tool for control. Xenu, God, Allah, the magic Mormon plates, all as believable as Thor and his hammer. Cool stories, but they don't work when taken as divination. I respect that we all have the freedom to believe as we choose, but I don't necessarily respect the individual belief systems. I even get bent about the Brights movement, since Dawkins (brilliant as he is) is turning atheism into a defined sect with a belief system, when atheism has always been defined by it's lack of beliefs and organized structure. I just dig being a living, sentient creature and I enjoy learning about the nature of our origins, rather than romanticizing our evolutionary roots by ascribing something fantastical to our history as a species.

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Jessie - posted on 02/09/2013

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I don't believe in God.

I think its sort of like a fairy tale.

This is what I was thinking when I was discovering I was an Athiest: 'If he's an almighty person, why wasn't I one, too? This is all stupid. It's bullshit!'

Hey, I wrote that in my diary as a 17 year old, don't judge.
Of course, I'm only 24, beliefs could change. :)

Cynthia - posted on 06/08/2011

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i think the bible is an awesome story book. but just that. some of it may be true but because it was written by so many different men and translated so many times, today it is fiction. i don't believe in god. i do believe in a higher power but not the god of the bible or the Jesus story. the why is because it doesnt add up to me. i cant wrap my head around the idea of a magic man.

Isobel - posted on 06/08/2011

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as for the person who said that Jesus commanded that the old testament be followed...why do we not stone people to death as God demanded that we should? why do Christians eat ham for Easter? There are so many questions.

Most Christians seem to post that the Old testament is just as important as the new when discussing the right to hit your child or deny gay people the right to marry...but then say that the New Testament trumps the old when it comes to areas where the two books contradict each other.

I is confused.

Nancy - posted on 06/08/2011

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6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

This would be a good one for my ex...LOL

Kate CP - posted on 06/08/2011

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"Kate, to all but the last bit, my honest, sincere question, is: So?"

That's usually my question when some one starts telling me all about Jesus. I know about Jesus and many other religions and I don't really need or want to be proselytized to every time some one starts in with it. (Not saying you are or any body else is, just a general observation here.)

Nancy - posted on 06/08/2011

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God has opened my eyes in many different ways...He has been there with me through all my struggles and has been there when I felt alone! I totally love God!

Cindy - posted on 06/08/2011

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I do believe in God, Jesus, and the Bible. It's been a long road to that decision. I went through my share of questions about it. But, I remember clearly, the day I felt I had been touched by Christ. That moment has stayed with me, and has caused me to maintain my faith. I believe that there are a great many inconsistant teachings within the Bible and amongst organized religious sects. It is a fact that the Bible has been interpreted by man. The books of the Bible weren't originally written in English! So, I feel it is best for me to read and interpret it for myself, and not by minister/reverend/priest, etc... The Roman Catholic church has admittedly chosen to leave out certain books written by the disciples and followers of Christ. I believe that the Bible is a guide for how we should live. The laws that were given to us are pretty basic for living in a civilized society. Don't kill, don't steal, don't commit adultery, etc... Again, this is my faith and how I choose to live. I don't attend "church." I believe that wherever 2 or more are gathered in His name is a church. I don't have to be in a particular building on a certain day. But, again, this is my own personal faith. I share it whenever anyone wants to talk about God, but I don't believe in ramming it down other's throats. And, I don't believe it's my place to say that if you live a certain way that you won't go to heaven. I'm not the judge. I believe that everyone will face God one day & he will judge. So, I make sure my heart is right with God, & I ask forgiveness for my sins. I have taught my boys that as well. They may do things that I don't know about and get away with it, but one day they will face God so they better make sure that they are right with Him.
Nothing bothers me more than when people who claim to be Christians pass judgement on other people because it says in the Bible that something is a sin. Again, only God can judge, and if I'm not dead then I don't know how God will judge anyone. I believe I'll get to find out all that when I die.

Tara - posted on 06/08/2011

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If we are going to talk about paganism I would like to suggest that Christianity has stolen many pagan rituals and adapted them to better suit Christianities purposes.
Paganism existed before Christianity, before Roman times. It was one of the original structured religions.
There is a wealth of information out there regarding the true origins, systems, and demise of paganism in favour of Christianity, not willing demise but a slow methodical destruction of all the things that connected them to the earth.

Jenni - posted on 06/08/2011

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That IS interesting Amanda. I'm just not too familar with the practice of speaking in tongues and was curious about your beliefs on it.

I do know quite a bit about various pagan religions as I use to be a practicing Wiccan. Or as much as we can know from the limited records.

I just believe a lot of the teachings and practices of Christianity was adopted from the 'Old Religions'. I would believe that this practice of speaking in tongues originated from a predated religion.

OhJessie - posted on 06/08/2011

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Kate, to all but the last bit, my honest, sincere question, is: So?

To the end, if anyone is genuinely beating you about the head with bible stories, they should stop. A Christian's job is to be ready to give an answer to unbelievers (i.e. wait for the question) and exhort believers. The only exception I make is simple exegesis.

Kate CP - posted on 06/07/2011

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*cracks knuckles* Okay, here we go.

So, Jesus was the messiah and sacrificed his life so we would know the kingdom of heaven. At least, that's how the story goes. But, how many other gods have the same story of mystical birth, an unknown childhood, returning to minister in their adult years, persecution, martyrdom, and resurrection? Answer: A lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Chris...

This isn't something that the Christians have all to their own. The concept of a holy man who dies for his people and is resurrected has been played over and over in history. Somewhere around 44% of adults in the US alone believe Jesus will return within their lifetime.

If God and Jesus make you happy, go for it. I think everyone should be happy. But part of ME being happy is to not be beaten about the head with a bible and it's stories.

Jody - posted on 06/07/2011

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I believe in a Goddess and a God, who take myriad names and forms, and the union of the Two as a single, androgynous Divinity that is both immanent and transcendent; the Male and Female represent the balanced halves of the united whole, and harmony is represented in balance, while imbalance results in discord, sorrow and what is commonly termed 'evil'.



The God and Goddess appear in different ways throughout human history, either as lovers, or as mother and child, or more rarely as brother and sister; they are Cernunnos and Aradia, Shiva and Shakti, Isis and Horus, Frey and Freya, Mary and Jesus, Cybele and Attis, Yahweh and Asherah, Diana and Apollo, Damballa and Ayida Wedo, Jehovah and Sophia, and are known by many other names; their interaction produce/represent the turning of the Wheel of the Year, which is the cycles of nature, of the changing of seasons, the movement of heavenly bodies, the cycles life and death, and basically the motions of the universe from the orbits of the planets around stars down to the orbits of electrons around the nucleus of an atom.



In more scientific terms, the Goddess is matter, and the God is energy. United, they are what creates the substance and motion of the universe and everything in it. Everything in the universe is part this joined, androgynous God, hence everything IN the universe IS God. Thus, pantheism and animism factor into the equation, as well as concepts such as Gnostic 'awakening', (pre-Catholic) Christian 'salvation' and Buddhist 'enlightenment'. But that's a tangent for another day.



So in short, yeah, I believe in God. God is everywhere, in every thing and thought and action.

Lotte - posted on 06/07/2011

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i dont shove it down my kids throats, nor am I totally closeminded. I even took my daughter to see inside a church one day just for the sake of experience and she said it looked 'weird'. we never went back, as I got the impression it made her uncomfortable. she was three at the time. I leave it up to them what they want to believe, just like if they want to be gay then so what. I back my kids 100% as long as they are good caring loving and balanced people. all the power to them as long as they are who they want to be and not for anyone else, I believe in self empowerment first and foremost, but not to be pompous...I believe in righteousness and many of the same values but not the cultist following part of religion.

Lissa - posted on 06/07/2011

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I believe in God as a in there is a greater power out there.
I think the bible is a book of exaggerated stories about trying to be a better person and introducing us to a man who I do think existed, who was good and kind.
I also believe in the spirituality of everything around us, that we are all connected. I am open to ideas but also see the similarities of many things who is to say reincarnation is not just a variation on purgatory or vice versa.
I believe faith is an excellent thing but religion causes problems. I also think if heaven exists you aren't going to be excluded from it when you have lived a good and kind life just because you didn't believe God existed.
I say all this having been brought up by an Italian Catholic father with deep faith.

Amanda - posted on 06/07/2011

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to Jennifer

Paganism – How does it compare with Christianity?
It is difficult to compare paganism with Christianity since the term pagan can be used to identify many different sects and beliefs.

These are the major differences, out of many:

Biblical Christianity professes one God, where paganism often teaches many or no god.

Biblical Christianity teaches that the Bible contains God’s words and message to mankind. It is infallible and inerrant. Paganism does not have one main religious text or set of beliefs to follow.

Biblical Christianity teaches that Jesus, God’s Son, came to earth as a baby, died on the cross as an adult for the sin of the whole world, and rose to life again. Some pagans believe in Jesus as one of the gods, but do not put significance in Him as Christians do.

Due to these differences and many more, a person cannot be a follower of Jesus Christ (a Christian) and a pagan at the same time.

http://www.allaboutspirituality.org/paga...

Jen - posted on 06/07/2011

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Seriously? This idea of faith in a god comes down to whether speaking in tongues is cited in a bible verse?

Amanda - posted on 06/07/2011

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Jennifer - I Corinthians chapter 14 vs 27 & 28 mki9
27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two or at the most by three, and then in turn, and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church, and let him speak to himself and to God.

From these two verses, the Bible talks about there being an interpreter of the person speaking in tongues. If there is no interpreter then the person speaking in tongues is talking to God. (at least that's what I see out of it)

I can only say that I don't understand everything in the Bible and don't think that everything will ever be understood by us(man) but I guess we just have to research and try to learn and understand what it means for our self. However there are many false "tongue talking" practices that are involved with witch craft and evil spirits and that's not at all what I am involved in. As for Pagan ppl speaking in tongues, Type in a search for "do Pagans talk in tongues" there are a lot of links and maybe we can understand why or what kind of tongue talking the Pagan were involved in...


28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church, and let him speak to himself and to God.

Shelley - posted on 06/07/2011

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Ok, I got lazy though, and copied this from a site I peruse when I am bored (i.e. hardly ever since the kids!). I will paste the goodies, but if you are interested in the link here it is (there really are whoppers of all sorts taken directly from the bible if you are curious). http://www.evilbible.com/

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

Jen - posted on 06/06/2011

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I don't believe in any superior/super natural/all knowing/all good being. Not for one second. The reason? I don't see any god at work in the world. I see a whole lot of misery, and people putting their faith in something to comfort them.

Shelley - posted on 06/06/2011

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Just a mention - havent read all the posts so it might have been mentioned before. But Jesus said that you can't exclude anything from the bible and you have to follow the rules of the old testament. So any Christians that disclaim all those crazy old testament rules are going against what Jesus said. Actually alot of what the guy said and did was pretty horrible. If you want me to elaborate and dredge some passages up I'll be happy to oblige :)

Jenni - posted on 06/04/2011

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And how do you explain that people of Pagan religions also have the ability to speak in tongues if it is a gift from the Holy Spirit... or the Christian god?

Jenni - posted on 06/04/2011

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Amanda, just curious but what are your thoughts on this:

""What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?" (1 Corinthians 14:15-16)

Evidently, in the Corinthian church people were praying in tongues. Paul points out that praying in tongues was fruitless because one did not understand what they were praying. Nowhere in God's word is there an example of one praying and not understanding what they praying. 1 Timothy 2:1 explains biblical prayer, "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men." Jesus said, "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." (Matthew 21:22) The question is how can one believe when they do not know what they are praying? Never in the Bible is prayer ever presented as being done without one's understanding. When Paul mentions praying in the "spirit" it is an admonishment against the practice. Note the word "spirit" is not capitalized and refers to praying in our thoughts, not through the Holy Spirit.

Paul uses a double illustration saying if he prays in the spirit he prayers with his understanding and that in the same way he sings in the spirit it is with his understanding. Nothing in the verse is saying a person should pray and not understand what they are praying. Therefore the verses are not establishing praying in tongues, but reproving those that were doing it."

http://www.bible-truth.org/TonguesWhatis...

Amanda - posted on 06/04/2011

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Jennifer - Thanks. I know I am not even close to what i need to be and don't do every single thing the Bible says, but i try to do the best i can and let the teachings of the Bible help me.

Amanda - posted on 06/04/2011

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Tawny- When you receive the gift of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking it is an unknown language to you. I don't have any idea what language i was speaking but i know that for me, it was a real experience from God.

Jenni - posted on 06/02/2011

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lol Amanda, I love that; " I guess you could say that i am like the Duggers,except I believe in birth control. and i Don't care for attention." That's encouraging and funny. :)

Anyways, I think I'm starting to understand you Amanda, I wasn't sure how to take you at first. But I think you do sound like a lovely woman with just rather unconvential beliefs. Ones I can appreciate because so many twist the Good Book at a whim and although (I think it would be impossible to follow it to a "T") you don't follow it 100% you seem to be doing a good job of following its teachings at about 90%. Which I think it's safe to say is about 40% more than a lot of followers. Anyways, I respect that... you are true to what you believe.

Charlie - posted on 06/01/2011

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"Why does a wedding band get a jewelery exemption? Isn't it still jewelery? "



Didnt you know , some read the bible as a choose your own adventure book.



Amanda I posted earlier the passage from which ALL jewellery is a sin .

Tawny - posted on 06/01/2011

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So you say you talk in tongues what languages do you speak? Spanish, dutch, german, french etc

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Im not sure that i belive in god but i belive in being a good, honest, happy, helpful, genuine person, whatever you believe. I think that it is hard to take litterally something that was written so long ago. I know somethings do not change, but i also understand that somethings do. If we never changed opinion or rights women couldnt even vote. I think there are core fundementals that are taught through many avenues, including religion, but there is not one way that is correct for all people. Something that has always bothered me about most very religious people that maybe you can help explain to me amanda, maybe i have it totally wrong, and i may, that we are not to judge. But if i dont live the way you expect me to then i am judged, i am not as good as you, or as loved by "god". Ill admit i dont know a tom about religion and have always been up for learning more, i guess i just havent been impressed by what ive seen. I hope i havnt been rude, i respect you and your choices, as you should others. Great debate!

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Jenny - This is just my opinion on jewelry...I personally don't know where ,or even if the Bible says it is wrong to wear jewelry but i don't think that a woman should wear a ring on every finger, 2 or 3 pairs of earrings, and weigh her neck down with necklaces. I think that a small amount of jewelry is ok to wear if you choose to, but I only choose to wear my wedding band. Other than that, I dont know what to say about wearing rings and necklaces right now.

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Jennifer - God is the only perfect man that ever walked this earth. Yes, each man is born in sin, but can repent and accept Christ as their savior. (and you do not have to sin every day) but if you do there is forgiveness (except for blasphemy according to the Bible)

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Laura - Yes to the link you posted. I would be more of the oneness Pentecostalism that is under the relation & reaction article. :)

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Tawny - Deut 22:5 teaches that women should not wear that which pertains unto a man;The Bible teaches separation of the sexes and since there is so little distinction between men’s and women’s pants, they are essentially unisex.I have always worn skirts or dresses since I can remember,even as a child. I Corinthians 11:15 talks about a woman's hair is her glory. (I agree with this scripture but another reason for me not cutting my hair is b/c I promised God that if He let my hair grow back,after my cousin cut it shoulder length, I would not ever cut my hair again. That was about 7 years ago and i haven't put scissors to my hair yet and don't plan on it) I really don't do the things i posted earlier. I guess you could say that i am like the Duggers,except I believe in birth control. and i Don't care for attention. I guess i can say that i have always been sort of an outcast because of the way i dress/don't dress but that's o.k. I don't wear make up and the only jewelery i wear is my wedding band. (i don't know where it is in the Bible right now but it says not to mark your body and if you put holes in your ears or markings (tattoos)on your body, then you are marking your body.)

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What is this about not cutting hair and not wearing jewelry and not wear pants.....I mean seriously so are you like the Duggers? Im a christian and I cut my hair where makeup wear pants dont have a tattoo but thinking of it!! :) Dont drink or do drugs so am I not a true Christian then... I dont understand why you have to make such a statement just say your a Christian. I think you like the attention by saying all those things and do you really not do all those things...

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Why does a wedding band get a jewelery exemption? Isn't it still jewelery?

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ok then. I am an Apostolic Holiness gal :) I believe that Jesus is God. I believe that the plan of salvation is stated in Acts 2:38. We have to repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus, and we shall receive the Holy ghost with the evidence of speaking in tounges. I believe in the kind of holiness that comes from the Bible. I don't cut my hair, wear pants or make up. The only jewelry i wear is my wedding band. Don't smoke,drink,or do any drug of any kind (and don't want to)

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