GOP's gun raffle in gabrielle giffords county

Rosie - posted on 09/05/2011 ( 11 moms have responded )

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some brilliant republican politician thought it would be a good idea to raffle off a glock (handgun) (what for i'm not sure), in gabrielle giffords county. people are outraged at the lack of insensitivity. what do you think? http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011...

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Johnny - posted on 09/05/2011

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Glocks kill people. Terrorists kill people. What's the diff? Both in poor taste. Actually, I think that's an extreme understatement. I will never understand the acceptance of civilian hand gun ownership. Really warped.

Jennifer - posted on 09/06/2011

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I know it's in our constitution as the right to bear arms but I personally hate it and would never own one. There is only ONE purpose for a gun and that is to kill. Knives have other purposes but the only thing a gun is good for is killing. I know they say that people kill people and not guns but without a gun, the person has to get a lot more creative and they might actually have to fight close enough to the other person to get injured themselves. (Making them think twice about trying to kill someone)

Jennifer - posted on 09/06/2011

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I think it's stupid to raffle off a gun. A gun should not be treated like a bicycle. It takes responsibility to be a gun owner and I think it makes light of a serious matter by raffling one off. The fact that this type of gun was used to kill people in that state really doesn't make any difference in my opinion. A gun shouldn't be a prize at the local hog calling contest.... it should be something that is deeply thought about before purchasing. It is also something that should require the owner to take training/safety classes before being given a permit to carry one.

Rosie - posted on 09/05/2011

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true dana, lol. i just don't understand how they don't understand how this particular raffle is completely innapropriate. someone's comment on the article put it in perspective really well for me. sure it's humans that kill people, not the guns, so why don't we go around manhattan right after 9/11 and start raffling off some little toy airplanes and tall towers. after all it, it was the terrorists-not the airplanes that killed all those people.

JuLeah - posted on 09/05/2011

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Not a big surprise – sigh – the gun will be raffled off to???



Finger printed, back ground checked, mental health record checked????? Nah, we will give the person a gun and wish em a good day.



Some facts:

Research shows an association between household firearm ownership and gun suicide rates



During the 1980s and early 1990s, there was a strong upward trend in adolescent suicides with a gun as well as a sharp overall increase in a suicide among those age 75 and over.



In the United States, firearms remain the most common method of suicide, accounting for 50.7% of all suicides committed during 2006.



Researchers have shown that safe-storage laws do not appear to affect gun suicide rates or juvenile accidental gun death.



Handgun homicides accounted for nearly all of the overall increase in the homicide rate, from 1985 to 1993, while homicide rates involving other weapons declined during that time frame.



Gun-related homicide rates in the United States are twenty to thirty-five times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it. Higher rates are found in developing countries and those with political instability.



In 2007 there were 1520 gun deaths in the 0 through 17 age group (out of 74,340,127 children) and 3067 gun deaths in the 0 through 19 age group. By subtraction we find that there were a whopping 1547 gun deaths in just the 18 through 19 age group.



Centers For Disease Control National Center for Injury Prevention & Control

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Amie - posted on 09/07/2011

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Ya, I'm going to have to go with the other ladies on this. Poor judgment and bad taste. I remember hearing it on the radio when I was in the city. I thought I had heard wrong - apparently not.



The whole idea of raffling off a gun (whether you have to still pass the qualifications at the end or not) is absurd to me anyway and we own guns.

Dana - posted on 09/07/2011

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Laura, that is still a horrible comparison unless you want to raffle off a gun and a similar outfit that the gunman was wearing during the Gabby Giffords shooting.



What people fail to understand is this is not uncommon in some areas of the US to have gun raffles. That gun is a popular hand gun, it's merely coincidence. And you're still not just handed a gun if you win, you still have to meet the qualifications had you gone out and bought one. In this situation you can be sure the Republican party holding this raffle are going to abide by the laws.



In the end, you can be anti-gun and all that jazz but, as far as the OP and staying along those lines...this is just another nit picky thing between Dems and Repubs that are a pain in the ass distraction from real issues.

Isobel - posted on 09/07/2011

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here's a better comparison...I wonder if they raffle off guns and black trench coats in columbine.

I have to jump on the "can't wrap my head around raffling off a gun" bandwagon. A rifle in a hunting community maybe...but a gun that is specifically designed to kill humans in an area where they have just experienced mass deaths because of said weapon? really?!?!?!

Dana - posted on 09/05/2011

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Eh, I think that's an extreme view, incomparable and that would be in poor taste.

Dana - posted on 09/05/2011

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Eh, people have gun raffles all the time. I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon of saying Republicans suck because of it, there are better reasons Republicans suck.

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