Have conspiracy theories really gone too far?

Charlie - posted on 11/27/2010 ( 38 moms have responded )

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Conspiracy theories abound from talk radio to cable to the Internet...and beyond. We hear everything from President Obama not being constitutionally-qualified to be president, to a waiting space fleet to deal with the possible pending demise of humanity from the 3,600 year orbit of a passing brown star that will pass near the Earth, wreaking mind-numbing amounts of devastation. The only problem with such theories is that little evidence and proof is offered.
Sadly enough, the Internet seems to have become a wasteland for such claims and theories. With a global platform that can easily reach billions, many can come on and write wild claims, backed up by little or no scientific evidence. Sure enough, scientists can, at times, be an arrogant lot, with closed minds and non-yielding belief structures. Scientific-"humanism" has almost become a religion in itself-humanism being the belief that humanity is the center of its known sphere of influence. There is nothing else that can't be explained away by conventional scientific doctrine.

Some of the scientists and their doctrine are to blame for this flood of conspiracy theories. Science has to yield more in its beliefs, doing real investigations into some of these claims. With many scientists refusing to hear anything, and even actively debunking, conspiracy theories will grow and multiply, spreading a wave of paranoia, from everything like the 'New World Order' to UFO space fleets waiting to rescue humanity from its possible demise from the passing brown star...

There is no doubt that conspiracy theories have gone way too far, at times seemingly verging on deluded and paranoid belief structures. But there has to be a more active look into these things by science, or else paranoia and delusion reign the day. There also is no doubt that many things like UFOs and other things do have validity. But unless there is either disclosure or a more active and thorough investigation that brings it more to the mainstream, such things get swept under the rug, and the theories of the waiting space fleets to save a doomed humanity from the effects of the passing brown star reign the day.

Do you follow every piece of conspiracy theory stumbled upon ? how do you decipher which has merit and which does not ? what are some the craziest conspiracies you have heard and why do you not believe them ?

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Rosie - posted on 11/28/2010

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i don't buy into conspiracy theories either. i need scientific evidence that more than a handful of people agree on. i have a hard time believing that everybody in the government is out to get us and doesn't have our (which includes their) interests at heart.
i enjoy life instead of constantly worrying about who's out there waiting to screw me over. nothing bad has happened yet....

Charlie - posted on 11/27/2010

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I have to say the most ridiculous one I have read recently is that vaccine companies pay women to get pregnant and then abort for their fetal tissue , I cannot take anyone seriously who honestly believe that .
anyone with a modicum of training in biology will tell you that it is impossible for vaccines (or any other injected medicine) to contain human tissue. The reason is simple: if you are injected with anything containing tissue from another person, your body will immediately recognize it as an invader and begin attacking it. This immune response is often quite radical and can easily lead to death! This is why blood from a donor to a recipient must be carefully matched before the recipient can receive it. Thus, there is no human tissue of any kind in vaccines.

But hey you cannot argue with blind ignorance .

Hannah - posted on 11/30/2010

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Has anyone ever seen Jesse Ventura Conspiracy theory? It certainly made me question GW's part in 9/11. Where is that damn black box? They said never in the history of ANY plane crash have they NOT been able to recover the box. Someone (can't remember who) saw them take the black box away and it was never heard of again.



He also talked about the Bilderbergs and how this elite group of 120 people are trying to kill us all off through food preservatives, vaccinations etc... It is going to be some kind of mass genocide. Anyway, there is some kind of monument in one of the states that replicates that Stone Henge thing. In 12 different languages on that stone henge it says something about the population should be LESS THAN 500,000 people.



Now, I am not saying I believe this stuff but it sure as hell is interesting.

Jenny - posted on 11/28/2010

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No, I'm saying I don't know what happened but I feel what we were told is not the full story or the truth. GW did not pull off much of what happened in his presidency, he was more of a figurehead. There was a vast network of people supporting him with brains, will, connections and money. The ties between the Bush's and Bin Ladens for one is astonishing and goes back decades. I believe it should be rightly questioned. Or the Carlyle Group. Or the Bilderberg Group. None of this is conspiracy, it is all documented truth.

I'm hoping WikiLeaks comes out with some documents on 9/11 down the road if Julian Assange hasn't been assasinated yet.

Jenny - posted on 11/28/2010

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Ya, I've seen all that. Building 7 is what makes me question. It fell at free fall speed from a fire on an upper floor. It's unprecendented. Anyways, I'm not gonna get into it on this thread. Suffice it to say, I'm skepitcal of the official reports and beleive there should be a full inquiry that is not handled by the US government.

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Jenny - posted on 11/30/2010

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Has anyone ever read up on the Denver Airport? There's some VERY weird stuff going down there. Google it.

Jenny - posted on 11/30/2010

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Hannah, I believe they are called the Georgia Guidestones and they are very real.



We never hear about Bilderberg because the media is owned by a handful of people when it get's down to it and they are all members. The Toronto Star was one of the first news outlets to report on their meeting when they were in Canada and it's only been through the internet their existance has become more known. I first heard about them when I was a live in nanny for a son of a Navy Seal in 1998.



The premier of my province was at the last meeting and will not release details on why. It pisses me off.

Jackie - posted on 11/30/2010

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@ Sarah - I forgot the guys name that's has this whole theory about how the landing was faked. I'll have to look it up. But did you hear about how he approached Buzz Aldrine (I think) and Buzz punched him right in face?! haha. can you imagine being one of the astronauts that made that trip for some wack job try to tell you that you part of some global hoax?

Anyways - here is a good website that can kind of shed some light on those things.

http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

Sarah - posted on 11/30/2010

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The moon landing thing I watched was cool because it was showing that certain photos just aren't what it would look like, the earth being on the wrong side, shadows falling the wrong way, the flag blowing in a breeze that wouldn't have been there.

It convinced me anyway!! LOL!

Jackie - posted on 11/30/2010

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Here's what I think when it comes these wack theories...

If they didn't sound somewhat credible to begin with nobody would believe them so yeah, most of the crazy things we hear can make you wonder because alot of times there is a bit of truth in them.

Like the moon landing, for example.. People think it was a hoax because if we could land on the moon in 1969, why can't we go back now when technology is so much more advanced then what it used to be. Well, there is an answer for that. Technology evolves so things that we used back then are no longer available. For instance, a typewriter. If you had a typewriter now that was made in 1969, you can't very well go find parts for it now because we evolved above and beyond that. The US put alot of time and effort and resources to be able to make that landing but now our time, effort, and resources and no longer going in that direction. OK, it makes sense in my head, I hope it makes sense to somebody else too. When I heard both side of the argument it was definitely explained better than what I just did. lol

Patricia - posted on 11/30/2010

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I watched the "PRINCESS DIANA" comentary about the truth behind why that car hit her....how long she layed in the ambulance parked on the side of the road before the Ambulance even tried to take her to the to the hospital to save her...??? THATS a friggin CONSPIRACY!!! Queen Eleizabeth always was so jealous of her!!! SHE KILLED Princess Diana!!! End of my story!!! :-(

Sarah - posted on 11/30/2010

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I watched a documentary about a 911 conspiracy which was really interesting. Not sure if I entirely believed it, but it did make it look that some things don't add up!!

I also watched a documentary about landing on the moon, I kinda believe that it didn't happen to be honest! lol

I don't really go for conspiracy theories though really, I just don't think that everyone is out to get us.

LaCi - posted on 11/30/2010

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"I'm hoping WikiLeaks comes out with some documents on 9/11 down the road if Julian Assange hasn't been assasinated yet."





An angry mob will take him out soon, if not for the "danger" he put our country in then for more false charges the government leaks out are against him (like the leaked FALSE information that he was a sexual predator)





I love conspiracy theories. I don't "follow" them, though there are some I have chosen to be true (9/11, for instance). I do love all conspiracy theories for entertainment purposes and the crazier the better.

Charlie - posted on 11/28/2010

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Jenny and Emma that is one conspiracy I would not be surprised about if it were true.

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I think the people who think Geedubya is in on the terrorism are onto something too, Jenny. I mean.. fake weapons of mass destruction claims anyone?

Stifler's - posted on 11/28/2010

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NO. Someone the other day ion here told me that the Government trades the numbers on our birth certificates for money from other countries and we all have millions owing to us. I don't believe that for a second, because it sounds fucking crazy.

Isobel - posted on 11/28/2010

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Loureen, you forgot the monkey kidney...you can't make a decent vaccine without monkey kidney.

I've long admitted to being a foil-hat wearer...I guess I'll leave it at that ;)

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Oh for sure, i was just stating that an educated guess could turn out to be wrong, or someone could take an educated guess of basic theory, and distort it to fit a theory that is for the most part completely illogical but based on something that is very logical .


Some ideas we think are logical now and the majority of society believes it, could eventually show that it is completely false. The same is for the other side, someones illogical theory could turn out to be true. Logic can only get you so far. As an example it was logical to think the sun moved around us, when you look up into the sky, it obviously moves. When scientists discovered that we actually move around the sun, I'm sure people everywhere were astonished and couldn't believe such a ridiculous thing. When something is the norm and people find it hard to believe at first and tend to pass it off as crazy or irrational. For the most part, it is. In some situations the illogical are correct.

The only reason we think anything to be true is because someone else told us.(for the most part) We could never really know everything we believe to be 100% fact unless we seen it or tested it for ourselves .Even then our own predetermined result could effect how we see the evidence. Most things are second hand information and bias can change the end result. The more people the information passes through, the more distorted it becomes. So if you consider all the factors, you can't really believe anything. Everything is possible. A small percentage still exists that the information is wrong, regardless how small that percentage, it still exists.

Tracey - posted on 11/28/2010

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I love reading about conspiracy theories, the more ridiculous the better. ( not that I believe in them)

Jenny - posted on 11/28/2010

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oooh - My fav conspiracy theories are that George W Bush helped plan the 9/11 attacks so that he would have a reason to wage war on the middle east. There are alot of people that actually believe that crap!!

I know, I'm one of them.

Jackie - posted on 11/28/2010

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oooh - My fav conspiracy theories are that George W Bush helped plan the 9/11 attacks so that he would have a reason to wage war on the middle east. There are alot of people that actually believe that crap!!

My other fav is that we have never ever landed on the moon and that the video of the first landing was totally staged. OMG people will believe anything! too funny.

And Julianne - (I don't mean to single you out) but you were talking about people believeing in educated guesses. Well, a hypothesis is one of the main building blocks of a scientific discovery. Someone has to have the idea first, then the hypothesis, and then the research and findings. it's not so far fetched that people believe in EDUCATED guesses. After all, they are educated and people don't tend to pull things out of their asses.... ok, wait... some do but unless it's logical, majority of people wont believe it.

Rant over

Ez - posted on 11/28/2010

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No conspiracy nut here. Who has the time to invest in such bullshit? Not me lol.

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There are things that we all believe to be true now though. Might not actually be. Someday we might be as dumbfounded as people who first found out the earth was round. Who really knows what it could be. It IS a possibility, nothing is written in stone, some people lie and bury the truth, others just use educated guesses and pass it off as truth. Some assume fact because its the most logical.
They do have the basic idea right, the whole believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. They just run away with what they "see"

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How is it possible for a conspiracy theory to go too far? Isn't that the very definition of a conspiracy theory? Where is the fun in it if it isn't as far fetched as possible? Hearing about the delusional beliefs that people have in these conspiracies is what keeps me sane in this crazy, crazy world. Keeps things interesting.

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Come to think of it, my hubby is on a silly Facebook page for 'believers' who claim the world is really flat! (If true, where would all of my Aussie friends go?!) But I was playing on that page with him one day, and it really is for shit & giggles but every now and then you get some dumbass believer!

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I do believe there are corrupt sectors of the government, the embezzlers, the ones that are only in the game to make a buck. That is common sense, every company has those people. The ones that manipulate the truth for personal progress. People lie, bend the truth, i dont like the way the government is run, especially the financial division.
I don't agree with the flu shot, only because i don't think their is enough time and effort going into the production of it and it is not properly tested. As well as not wanting anything synthetic in my body.
I also dont agree with fluoride in water, for the same reason.
These are logical things, some people look at this information and twist it, distorting it until there is so many ridiculous claims.
You cant help but take a step back and say, what are you on.

I had someone tell me that the earth was hollow and the government worked with the aliens in the center to devise new technology to take over the world. i saw that in a movie once i think...

Jodi - posted on 11/27/2010

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Exactly Loureen, I saw that too and thought it was absolutely ridiculous and ignorant. Obviously anyone who believes that has not really done their research on the issue of aborted cell lines in vaccines.

Personally, I think some people just really need to get a life and stop looking for conspiracies in everything. Some things have perfectly reasonable explanations. Some things just will never have an explanation and are pure fluke. Not everything is a conspiracy.

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You'll always have nutjobs out there with extreme blinded and passionate views. Glad that it's only a small percentage of the population. But what's even worse is when these loony-bins get together to procreate and spawn baby nutjobs. Repeats to the next generation of idiots.

Sharon - posted on 11/27/2010

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eh, its always easy to lead the uneducated down the "conspiracy" path.

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