How to parent your Dog....er I mean, your Child.

Jenny - posted on 05/07/2012 ( 8 moms have responded )

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Loved this excerpt I found from nopunish.net. What are your opinoins on the similarities between some parenting styles and training dogs?



"In a recent lecture to a group of parents, I opened a book and read aloud: "Start discipline early; make clear rules, enforce them promptly and consistently. Reinforce obedience with, 'Good boy, that's a nice girl,' together with pats and hugs. After disciplining, tell them you love them, but it was for their own good."



There were unanimous nods of agreement, some voicing approval quite heartily.



But when I showed the book's cover, they gasped in shock:

HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DOBERMAN PINSCHER



In their beliefs about methods of treating children and training dogs, there was not a smidgen of difference! It is as if America had learned its parenting skills at the American Kennel Club's obedience school. Is it any wonder that the nation's children are screwed up? A dog's nature is to be servile. But a child's nature is to be free."

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Louise - posted on 05/08/2012

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Lets face it the family pet dog has a life of luxury when house trained. Mine gets fed, watered, walked, played with, adorned with chews and bones and gets the best seat in the house to watch the telly. I tell ya I am coming back as a pampered pooch!

I expect the same from the dog as I do my kids, a cuddle now and again, to eat their dinner I have prepared, to come in when called and to poop in the right place! Whats the difference?

Jenny - posted on 05/08/2012

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I think to understand what the authour was trying to address you need to read the whole article, but it's way too long to post, its even way to long for light reading.



If anyone is really keen, they can read it at http://www.nopunish.net/PWP.pdf

Mary - posted on 05/08/2012

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Quite frankly, I wish more parents treated their children with as much love and respect as I did my dogs! Of course, I live in household where I never, ever raise a hand to my dogs (one of them had been abused), and my "training" methods with them were focused around positive reinforcement, heavily laced with praise and lavish amounts of affection. One of my most effective means of keeping them well behaved is to keep them too damned tired and stimulated to have even a desire to get into much; I devote over an hour every day to walking the boys, and letting them "explore" their environment. I also spend countless hours playing and interacting with them, and even more time snuggling and loving on them.

When I had a child, I honestly found that my parenting methods were remarkably similar to teaching and "raising" my dogs. I do not spank my daughter; the positive reinforcement and redirection I used in rehabbing my abused pit bull had taught me that this was much more effective means of encouraging good behavior without the use of fear. I have also found that copious amounts of fresh air, physical activity, and mental stimulation on a daily basis goes a tremendous way into preventing bad behavior born of boredom or a lack of attention.

Perhaps you find the comparison between child-rearing and dog training disturbing because you are a vastly different type of dog-owner than this American girl. Chance are, I may find your methodology for training, disciplining, and treating your animals to be similarly appalling and unappealing.

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I don't think "treating children" is the correct term here, more like "teaching children". And I certainly don't think the United States' children are so screwed up because parents are actually disciplining them, I think it's entirely the opposite. Parents aren't disciplining their children and so their children don't know the rules, don't know the boundaries, and certainly don't bother following them if they do. The point is, just because "a child's nature is to be free" doesn't mean that they should be allowed to run around like little psychos and pitch hissy fits when they don't get their way. I don't see how letting a kid be a monster would be beneficial to anyone, let alone the kid.

I like the idea of starting discipline early, of making clear rules, and of enforcing said rules promptly and consistently. Seeing as how I myself am a product of that school of discipline, and how my 16yo Nazi-wannabe brother who yells racial slurs in the middle of the "bad" part of town and almost gets his dumb ass shot is a product of the school of non-discipline, I'd have to say that if you want to call it "parenting your dog" then go ahead, but it hasn't harmed me or my husband or anyone I know who actually had parents who paid attention to their children.

Disclaimer, "you" is a general term, and in conclusion I do not agree with the author's view that US kids are screwed up because their parents supposedly discipline them like they would dogs.

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Stifler's - posted on 05/07/2012

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I agree I think having reasonable rules and expectations goes a long way and consequences if they don't follow the rules.

Stifler's - posted on 05/07/2012

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I don't see the problem with it. We want our kids to grow up into functional adults and doing the right thing is a huge part of that.

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