"I think parents need to beat the crap outta their kids," Pink

Charlie - posted on 11/03/2010 ( 63 moms have responded )

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US singer Pink has weighed into the smacking debate in an interview with Access Hollywood, saying she thinks parents should be allowed to smack their children.



"I think parents need to beat the crap outta their kids," Pink said. "I think the whole spanking thing and how it's gotten all PC is for the birds."



Pink, who smoked cigarettes at age nine and was doing acid and ecstasy by her early teens, told Access Hollywood she was a "bad" teenager and credits her parents' disciplining of her as the reason she is alive.



"Oh, [my father] put me through a wall. It's the only reason I'm still here," Pink said. "It's the only reason I'm still alive."



Pink, who does not have any children, was thrown out of the family home at age 15 but said she holds no grudge against her parents, saying they have become close in recent years.



"I deserved it. I would have kicked me out when I was 8," she said.



Smacking isn't illegal in Australia, with federal law dictating that parents can smack their children when it is "reasonable chastisement", but there is a growing movement to ban physical punishment in the home.



Two separate bills were put to the South Australia and Queensland state governments in 2007 seeking to restrict parents' right to smack their children.



Pink champions the fight against violence towards animals and yet condones beating children i find this hypocritical at the very least , her reasons for using violence are shallow in thought , if smacking /spanking was the answer to this issue i personally would not have been same young teen she described , i was smacked sometimes excessively and i became who she described , personally i feel going off the rails like that has deeper reasoning on an emotional level , i find her logic twisted and quiet frankly a little scary to condone abuse to the point of "BEATING" .





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Eliz - posted on 11/05/2010

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My mother spanked me (not violently) and it kept me out of trouble for the most part. Knowing a spanking would be the outcome if I did wrong I tended to not do wrong.

But there is a fine line between disipline and abuse and parents need to be consciencious of it.

April - posted on 11/03/2010

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i really just think she doesn't mean it. she means she agrees with spanking but it doesn't necessarily mean she agrees with punching out a 6 year old. i believe she just used a poor choice of words and doesn't actually mean give your child a black eye, break her leg, etc...

Nikkole - posted on 11/08/2010

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i believe in spanking like a smack on the butt or hand BUT NO WHERE ELSE AN ONLY with your hand! I think pink was just saying this to get people all crazy i think she likes the attention people on here say i am abusing my son when i smack him on the hand lol but its not like i do it EVERY DAY i do the counting to 3 first then the talking to him then the time outs and if those dont work then i smack on the butt or hand but i never really have tot do it! What happened to her was sad and should have been stopped!

Stifler's - posted on 11/05/2010

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Sometimes when I read about juvenile delinquency I think "they need a good kick up the arse". I think P!nk may have meant something along those lines.

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...to be honest, i think she was being somewhat sarcastic when she made that remark. i also somewhat agree with her. it depends on what works according to the child. some kids don't hear you talking to them, some don't feel a thing if you're physical about it. i don't advocate violence or hitting a child outright as a form of punishment, but i seriously don't think an occasional swat to the rear is going to harm anything. i got the fly-swatter after me plenty of times, i deserved most of it, and i'm not emotionally or physically scarred because of it.

so basically, i don't think it's ever okay to leave bruises on a child, but if a smack on the butt is the only thing that works because you have a hard-headed little brat, by all means, i say go for it.

as for Pink's situation, i'm sure her father went overboard but if she's okay with it, i don't see why it's anyone else's business.

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~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/09/2010

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My son is in the "I am gonna be as fresh as I can possibly be to see how long my momma takes to discipline me, and when she threatens time out, and tells me to stop...I am gonna keep on pushing it until her face turns red, and she is gnashing her teeth! I also like to see at what point she starts pulling her hair and talking in a really low calm voice,,,...then I know I am in for it" stage. He likes to push me to my limits...grrrrr....I will attempt every other disiplinary action before resorting to a spank. I don't like to do it, I don't think any parent does. That is what Pink doesn't understand...she is not a parent...she has not seen the hurt and sadness in her childs eyes after they are yelled at and spanked....she doesn't know.

Lacye - posted on 11/09/2010

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I do spank and it is disappointing to hear Pink say that. I would never "beat" my daughter. I love her way too much for that. but if it is called for, yeah. I will spank her on the diaper or pop her hand. (sorry if I don't use the word smack. i don't like that either. it makes me think of some one smacking another person across the face, but i understand what yall are saying by it though.)

Jessica - posted on 11/06/2010

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I hope she doesn't become a parent any time soon.

I was hit, spanked, thrown into walls, whatever you want to call it. Did I "deserve" it? OMG, I had the WORST mouth when it came to talking to my parents. I would scream and carry on, cuss them out, etc. No amount of hitting ever stopped it- if anything it made it worse. Did I need to be slapped into submission for, lets say, telling my father he was a fucking asshole? Nope! Did I need someone to try and understand and respect me? Yep! You can't do that by hitting a child/teenager. Luckily, I've learned from my past that that approach is wrong and doesn't work- something Pink clearly hasn't.

Jess - posted on 11/06/2010

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Its always amazed me that you have to have a license to have more than 2 dogs, but anyone can be a parent ! Pink clearly needs to seek some help and guidance.

And on another note... its about time this was said :
To anyone who has ever said "I don't hit, I spank" or anything to that effect, for god's sake go buy a dictionary or I'll post you one !!!

Chrystal - posted on 11/05/2010

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Wow there is something not right in her head. I was abused as a child, and there is NO excuse for it. People who think it's ok definitely need counseling or therapy. Abuse is no joking matter and I will never beat my kids. Now I do think there is a difference in spanking and hitting. If my child is so outta control that he won't listen, I will spank him/her. I will never hit though. You ask what the difference is? The difference to me is this: Spanking-discipline and Hitting: abuse. I will never feel bad for disciplining my child.

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She made it everyone's business by making a public statement about "beating the crap outta their kids" - that's why, Jaime.

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I love Pink but tbh she's been really silly saying these things. It's obvious she's been through a lot just by looking at her song lyrics. She definately needs therapy and whilst I do believe there's a big difference between a smack and the way she was beaten up, I would never do anything to harm my children.

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Thanks for the video Dana S. After watching it, it just makes it more apparent to me that she needs some kind of therapy. Like Loureen said, she's sugar coating her abuse. I'm sorta on the same page as Dana :) right now though. I'm disappointed to hear her say something like that but I also think she's a misguided woman who needs help. And she needs it BEFORE she has kids.

Jane - posted on 11/03/2010

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I'll make only this comment. I have two kids, 20 and 17. I NEVER spanked/slapped/etc my children once in their life time. They are both outstanding students, amazing individuals who never did/do drugs, drink or smoke. Did they have sassy mouths as teenagers? YEP! Did they disobey rules at times? Uh-huh! Was there ever a reason to use my hands to get the point across to them? NOPE!

Charlie - posted on 11/03/2010

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I think she has made some very irresponsible comments given how many adults , teens , and children look up to her she isnt condoning spanking she is condoning abuse .

I wonder if she realises that being put through the wall COULD have killed her , her father had no reguard for her life in that moment of time , she suger coats her abuse as something positive .

She like so many other abuse victems shows a few of the signs that those with stockholm syndrome show .

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BLECH! I'm SO not impressed by her right now. What a let down, although, hearing HOW she said it sort of puts it in a different context. Her opinion is vague and I don't think she actually means to beat your children. I do still think she's extremely misguided.

Thanks for the video, Dana.

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I don't condone beating children but something needs to be done about all these kids that are out of control--assaulting, raping, murdering, drug and alcohol abusing, stabbing, threat uttering....it's a very scary world these days.

Sharon - posted on 11/03/2010

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LOL Amie - you're so wrong. I haven't had to spank my kids since they were little. So where is your "progressive" theory now?

Amie - posted on 11/03/2010

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OMFG! Her dad putting her through a wall, is what happens when you use spanking as a form of punishment.



It consistently has to get stricter and harder as they grow because children become more independent and stubborn as they grow.



Once you hit a child, which is what she's advocating, there's no spanking involved when beating your child. There is no other recourse than to keep hitting them for every infraction, nothing else will hold the weight of what your hand can do to them.



I do not agree with spanking and it's because of shit heads like this. It is too easy to go off the handle and push it too far. Especially when they are teenagers and not listening.



It is absolutely ridiculous that she's against violence to animals but is ok with violence towards children. Maybe if her parents had tried other methods she would have pulled her ass together sooner. Maybe she wouldn't have used the drugs and other behaviors to escape. Whether she wants to admit it or not, that's all I (and many others I'm sure) see, a child trying to escape an abusive home life.

Jodi - posted on 11/03/2010

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I used to be an extreme anti-spanking, anti-corporal punishment lady myself. I have learned, I have changed, I do not spank my child, but as long as done properly I have no problem with other people spanking their child. To each their own.
I realize this will probably be an unpopular opinion, but here goes anyways. I was a "troubled" teen, I did drugs, I skipped schools, I hung out with the "wrong" crowd, I got failing grades etc etc etc. One day when I was 17 my mother back handed me in a very heated argument...I stumbled...it was exactly what I needed. It was a turning point in my life, my mother and I are incredibly close now and I think what she did wasn't wrong in the least. I think SOME children do need a good slap or backhand to knock some sense in them. I am not talking small children, I am not talking on a regular basis, I am talking extreme cases with more teenagerish age people and a once only occasion. Pink takes it a bit further, I would never condone beating the crap out of anyone, child, teen or adult...but as others have said, Pink is allllll about extreme!

Jessica - posted on 11/03/2010

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Ok, so I'm gunna go with the unfavorable opinion as well...Sharon kinda of touched it with saying that Pink is extreme. This is a magazine article or whatever right?? She is all about making you look twice or listen again to see " Did she actually just say that?!" I highly doubt that Pink literally meant to beat the ever living shit out of kids, she isn't going to look at a child abuser ( a real one, not someone who spanks) and say " good job!!" . Should she have worded what she said better, absolutly! There are far to many people who take what she said literally to a T and then judge her for it.

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Oh I know Dana and I agree with you on that. From what I know about Pink (not just from this article), she was definitely abused. I don't know if she's ever had any counselling or used any other methods to get over what was done to her as a child but if not, then she definitely needs to address it before she has kids. I'm just saying that based on one statement (that may or may not have been taken out of context based on the media source), we can't just write her off and assume that she's gonna abuse her own future kids. Did she say something she shouldn't have? Possibly (can you tell I really can't stand Access Hollywood? LOL). I just am not gonna allow it to make me change my opinion of her or give up on her entirely because that would be like me giving up on myself before I ever had a chance to prove myself wrong, if that makes sense.

Sharon - posted on 11/03/2010

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That is a bit extreme.

She's right about some points but she's still extreme but thats her right? She's all about extreme.

I do know of a case where a parent caught a cousin(15yrs) sexually abusing a their 3 yr old. They beat the crap out of the kid. Was that abuse? Or justifiable? I'm leaning more towards justifiable. I still feel bad for the 15 yr old, but.....

Dana - posted on 11/03/2010

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Joy, this isn't your simple spanking.

"Oh, [my father] put me through a wall. It's the only reason I'm still here," Pink said. "It's the only reason I'm still alive."

Dana - posted on 11/03/2010

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Mylene, I did read your post properly, now read mine, I said I don't feel like giving her excuses, nowhere did I say that YOU were.

I feel like it's an excuse, you can feel any way that you want to.

Amanda - posted on 11/03/2010

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First off, I hate when people who do not have children make any parenting comments. Second, she may agree with spanking as a form of discipline, but the way she worded it is pretty awful! and third: the fact that she was in so much trouble at such a young age tells me that her parents form of discipline was unsuccessful.

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As an abused child, I always worried that I would end up like my parents. I still worry sometimes that I will. Abuse never goes away and trust me, I've had enough therapy to work through my issues, but sometimes the fear still creeps back in. If Pink was abused as a child (which I believe she was) then at age 31 she is about where I was at 31. I didn't have kids, but I had LOTS of opinions about how I would raise them. I always assumed I would spank my kid(s). I have spanked, but realized early on that I needed to find alternatives based on my own history. I have a feeling that when Pink said she thinks parents should "beat the crap outta their kids", she wasn't referring to what happened to her when she was a child. Just my opinion though because I've been in her shoes (obviously minus the talent and fame lol). If and when she has a baby of her own, I hope that the light comes on for her, like it did for me. Sometimes abused children grow up to be amazing parents....they just don't know it until they experience it. She's a smart girl. She's survived a lot, and all we can do is hope that she uses what she has to do better for her future baby(ies) than what was done to her. I don't think it's making excuses. It's just allowing her to do like we all did and figure it out once she gets there. I do agree that with her being in the public eye, maybe she shouldn't have said what she did. But she never has been one to bite her tongue....

Katherine - posted on 11/03/2010

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How disappointing. I really liked Pink.
That really makes me lose a ton of respect for her.
Unreal.

Jenn - posted on 11/03/2010

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@Leah - she said her Dad threw her through a wall. I'd say that's a pretty good indicator that she was abused. :( Also, just listen to her music - it's her life story.

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JuLeah saying that people who don't have children, don't get to have an opinion is the same as saying people who don't own a home do not get to have an opinion on the best way to run one, just because they have not had experience of it does not mean they don't have a clue. EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion, just because that opinion does not agree with yours doesn't make it any less valid!

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Dana S,

Please read my posts properly. It's not an excuse, it's a reason WHY. I will repeat it once more: I DO NOT agree with her. I understand WHY she thinks that way. Doesn't make it right. There is a big difference between understanding and excusing the behavior.

JuLeah - posted on 11/03/2010

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My opinion .... people who don't have children, don't get to have an opinion

Leah - posted on 11/03/2010

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Wow this shocks me! I'm not against 'spanking' but 'beating your kids' is a totally different subject. For somebody that has the public's attention to be broadcasting she supports child abuse, imo that's just irresponsible. I really hope that some brain dead parents out there don't hear this and then think its ok just because Pink said it. Its a horrible abuse of power and I hope it comes back on her.
Because we don't know the specifics of her childhood or the lengths her parents went to to get her to shape up, its hard to speculate whether or not she was actually abused but to put in such generic terms 'beat the crap out of' its easy to imagine. I understand that she has no hard feelings against her parents but, imo, that is the exception not the rule. In most cases, abuse leads no where but trouble. (please note, i don't believe discipline by means of spanking is abuse, but that is an topic all together I don't have the energy to defend right now ;D)

Tracey - posted on 11/03/2010

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I tapped my kids on the hand or bottom when they were younger (now I find it more effective to withhold computers / phones) and I also tapped my kitten on the nose when she started clawing the furniture. None of them was permanently damaged and I don't consider that I have abused animal or child.
I believe in the UK we are allowed to smack as long as it isn't hard enough to leave a mark on the skin.

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Dana S. I understand she is not sheltered but she still doesn't know any better. Abused children don't alway "wake-up" and realize the way they were treated is wrong. She still has lots of work to do to overcome those demons. I am not agreeing with her stance, I am merely saying that I understand WHY she thinks that way.

Jenn - posted on 11/03/2010

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Wow! I'm surprised that someone who was abused as a child would feel that way. Although I think it shows that she hasn't healed her wounds if she thinks she deserved to be thrown through a wall and that makes me feel sad for her. :(

My thoughts on the matter? No, I don't think it's OK to hit your kids and I also agree that this is why some people feel like if you don't spank your kids that it means they aren't being disciplined, which is total BS!! Discipline means to guide our children into adulthood so that they can become productive members of society. You do this through teaching them life lessons, not smacking them because they didn't do what you wanted them to.

Dana - posted on 11/03/2010

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I can agree that it might change, I would hope she would know better before she had children though. I mean she's talking about "beating the crap out of kids" not spanking them.

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Well, I'm gonna be the unpopular opinion here so here goes. I've always liked Pink. Everything from her music to her politics. I think she had a messed up childhood and doesn't know any better than to make statements like she did because she doesn't have any kids. I don't agree with her statement that parents need to beat the crap out of their kids but I also know enough about the media to know that we are probably not getting the whole context of the conversation. I mean really, Access Hollywood? They are part of the papparazzi, which is why I don't watch the show. All of that being said, my opinion of Pink hasn't changed. I still think she's a great entertainer, a talented singer, a good person. She just may not know any better. I was raised in a very abusive home and even at the age of 39 I still fight EVERY DAY not to repeat my parents' mistakes. There are times when my son does something that really gets under my skin that my first reaction is to spank him....BUT I stop myself, breathe, calm down and approach him from a more loving place. But each time, I have to CHOOSE this path. No one can fault Pink for her upbringing, or that the way she was raised has shaped how she sees parenthood. I have a feeling that if she ever has a baby, her outlook will probably change. Ok, I'm gonna duck and go back to my corner lol

Dana - posted on 11/03/2010

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Mylene, she's an adult not a child, she's old enough to know better, she's not sheltered, she can look around her and know it's wrong.

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I'm disgusted and extremely disappointed with her. I would have never guessed she would have that stance because of her upbringing and all the work she does regarding animal treatment.

Battered child?

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Well, I think she never was taught any better. If her parents abused her, that's what she knows, that's what she thinks is right. I cannot agree with her at all but i can understand where she comes from. She wasn't provided with a good parenting model and unless she chooses to look at other alternatives, she will follow the same path.



It is sad because some abused children perpetuate the cycle of violence because they have no idea there are other ways to deal with bad behavior... Pink is a prime example of this.

Kate CP - posted on 11/03/2010

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I love it when people who don't have kids try to tell parents how to be parents. *eye roll*

Dana - posted on 11/03/2010

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God, I hope she never has children. What an idiot. Does it not occur to her that she was probably a bad kid because of the way she was raised? People are truly ignorant sometimes and it's unfortunate that they are giving such an outlet to spew their ignorance.

Bonnie - posted on 11/03/2010

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Yikes! I had no idea she felt this way or that she was that kind of a child until now. Obviously the way she was treated as a child has gotten to her and made her believe that being this way is right or normal.

Sara - posted on 11/03/2010

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I think this is a really stupid statement coming from someone who clearly had/has issues because of the environment in which she was raised. Plus, I'm sorry, but until she's a parent she can keep her opinions about these kinds of things to herself. Not interested.

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Before I had my son I thought I would spank as I was spanked it is what I knew, but then I started dating my hubby and met his family and saw that actually you don't need to spank. I researched discipline methods and found that spanking was never going to be part of my discipline method, since having my son that has become even stronger spanking is not a method I see as beneficial. Maybe when Pink has her own children she will see that continuing the cycle of abuse is not necessary and that she can break that cycle.

Desiree - posted on 11/03/2010

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i think this topic can seriously go nuts. I live in the SA, and there is not law against giving you child a smack. In my personal capacity I do not find anything wrong with the occational smack on the backside. I do have a problem with abuse. Please also note that constant shouting at kids is also not good for either you or the child. Every thing in moderation. i myself have given my kids the odd smack and not one of them are worse for wear, now a days I don't smack them at all no need. Yet on the other hand I know of a whole group of kids where the mothers are constantly shouting and screaming at thier kids because they won't give any form of discipline (It stifles their growth) yes and now they absolute brats I won't offer to babysit.
Pinks parents should be shot and so should she now that explains her behaviour there is nothing nice about her. (my opinion you don't have to like it) Just remember there are two extremes to everything in this case you have Pink who is off the wall because of the way she was disciplined and then you have the likes of Britney who for the same reason or lack thereof she is on the loopy side.

Jodi - posted on 11/03/2010

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Thanks Cathy....I was just being lazy. I was so busy today I just can't think straight :)

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Oh, Cathy, I totally agree, but I am just curious about how this discussion came about :) I may have to look at it a little more.....I just suspect that while what she describes is abuse, that the discussion possibly didn't exactly go the way described in the article. I guess I am just having a really hard time believing anyone could condone this level of abuse.

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