If abortion were Illegal

Katherine - posted on 12/22/2010 ( 19 moms have responded )

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This is so sad. I can't believe it. I remember a thread that asked if anyone's views had changed because of CoM. I am pro-life, but this is a case I would say terminate.

Imagine getting pregnant, only to be diagnosed with cancer. Now imagine it getting worse. Much worse.

In a story that should give women everywhere pause, Michelle Harte was forced to travel out of the country to have an abortion because she was living in Ireland, where the law only allows abortion in cases where a hospital has determined a mother's life is at risk if she continues with the pregnancy. Ironically, her own doctors had advised her to terminate to proceed with cancer treatments, but the ethics committee that had final say on her abortion said no.

By the time all was said and done, the delay in cancer treatment allowed the disease to spread in her body. She's now been declared "terminally ill." If she dies, she'll leave behind her daughter, motherless.

Harte's story came out this week after the story of yet another woman in a similar situation blew wide open the problems with governments having the ultimate say over a woman's womb. The European Court of Human Rights ruled that Ireland breached the "human rights" of that woman -- currently known as C -- by refusing her an abortion, forcing her to seek care outside of the country as well.

To put this in perspective, just this week, doctors began talking about the very real possibility that Americans delaying childbirth will increase the number of pregnant women facing a breast cancer diagnosis. The doctors recommended women get treatment for the cancer as soon as possible ... and outlined the risks of sticking with the pregnancy.

Put the two situations together along with a third: imagine the right-to-lifers get their way. Seventy percent of evangelical Christians in this country are in favor of completely overturning Roe v. Wade. There would be no room for "well, if you're sick, you can choose." American women would face Michelle Harte's horror -- the choice, followed by the stress of traveling while terminally ill, plus the stigma. As her partner Neil Doolan told the Irish Times:

She was very unwell. She was very stressed out, physically very weak, nauseous, and vomiting.

It's easy for the right to life contingent to mark abortion off as the easy out for loose women and stupid teenagers. But women like Michelle Harte crop up every day. Moms who were doing nothing wrong, but are treated like criminals trapped in the jail of their own bodies.

Women die when they can't take control of their healthcare. How is that any better than aborting a fetus?

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Kate CP - posted on 12/23/2010

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We're assuming that Grandma can or wants to care for the child, now?

How about we let a woman make her own choices about her own body and whether or not she wants to undergo treatment for CANCER?

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I consider myself pro-life...as a pro-choicer. to me choice is about being pro-life for reasons like above. or lets all go back to coat hanger days cause that seemed to work well. that said I am happy to see so many people that are against abortion seeing the sense in the above needing to be allowed. but that makes me wonder...why some yes and some no? who can dictate that?

Becky - posted on 12/23/2010

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So Pamela, you feel that this mom should die of cancer and this little girl be torn away from her father so what, so another family can have a chance to have a child? So an unborn child, who, let's face it, without mom having her cancer treated, she may not have lived long enough to carry the child to term anyway, can have a chance at life? Like I said, I'm pro-life, but at some point, you have to consider those who already alive!

Meghan - posted on 12/23/2010

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The Grandmother would have to adopt??? Poor Grandma! I bet that's what she wants to do at her age-start all over. And lets not forget that most people don't want to adopt "local" kids. Most want to save the foreign babies-that's why Canadian and American foster homes and orphanages are so over crowded.
Very sad story!

Katherine - posted on 12/23/2010

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It's about the mom having a CHOICE not adoption for God's sake!!!!

Kate CP - posted on 12/23/2010

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Oo! Or! Or! She could always just say "Oh, to hell with it" and do the dangerous chemo and radiation therapy and whatever happens to the fetus is what happens, right? Cause then the baby would still have a chance at life...granted that life could be riddle with all sorts of wonderful birth defects and health problems, though.

Yea. That's the ticket.

Kate CP - posted on 12/23/2010

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Uhhh...adoption is great and I'm a big supporter of adoption. However, if she had a living mother who was capable of caring for her she wouldn't HAVE to be adopted, now would she? Not to mention people tend to want to adopt newborn infants, not kids who "come with baggage". Sad, but true. She will be a motherless child.

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Her daughter wont be motherless... adoption makes that possible. she should arrange a loving family to have her if she were to pass away. That would be the best thing she can do for her baby.

Sara - posted on 12/23/2010

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That is sad.

I think that most of us can say that we don't like abortion, but making it illegal would only force situations like this and also would endanger the lives of women. It being illegal won't stop it from being needed in some cases, or performed in others, it will just make it unsafe.

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I know someone who was in a similar situation (except abortion is legal in England), she had cancer and had treatment, went into remission, got pregnant again found out her cancer had returned, continued the pregnancy and delayed treatment until her baby was born. She died a couple of years later due to the cancer which she never got better from, leaving behind 2 young children and her hubby, a broken man. It was horrible because they were such a young family, she was barely in her 30's...abortion should be legal for situations like this because the mum's life is at risk.

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I dont agree with abortion myself but i dont think it should be banned either. Years ago I remember there used to be a ship that would dock in Ireland and women would get on then they would go out to sea perform the abortions and bring them back. Dont know if thats still happening or not.

Becky - posted on 12/22/2010

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That is very sad. I'm prolife as well and I hate that abortion exists, but I do think that in cases like this, it needs to be the mother's choice. It's terrible that someone essentially told that little girl that she has to grow up without a mommy because her unborn sibling's right to life was more important. Imagine if she'd carried that baby and died shortly after giving birth. The rest of that family would have such a hard time not viewing that child as the one who killed mommy. :( So yes, I agree, this is a reason abortion should not be illegal.

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