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I hate politics. This is why. The article above was written by one of my husband's friends. He video-taped a group of Tea Party advocates revolting against the town council putting in a bike path through the city. One woman, if you watch the video to the end, went so far as to warn young mothers "that in the future we’ll all live in small communities and compounds..." because the document that suggested the bike path idea also encouraged car-pooling. I shit you not.

But even if you don't watch the video all the way through, there are plenty of "crazies," as hubby's friend calls them, trying to stand up against the bike path idea. One guy claimed no one rode bikes and said there weren't any outside. His claim was immediately debunked by another man saying there were two. Mind you, it's the middle of December in the mid-south, and they got snow last week. Another man apparently felt that he was "forced to have a community where we can all live, work, and play.” But all of this and more is on the video and in the article, if you wish to read it.

Seriously. But at least there's a happy ending: Jonesboro will be getting a bike path through the city. Not everyone there thinks bikes and car-pooling equal Hitler. Thank God.

What are your thoughts? I figured there are sure to be some political people on here, so why not post something like this. Most of you seem intelligent enough to me, haha :P

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Sara - posted on 12/18/2010

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And this whole concept of a 24-hour news cycle that takes every little thing and makes it an earth-shattering headline probably doesn't help to keep people grounded. It's disaster porn.

Tah - posted on 12/18/2010

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There are extreme people in every religion, political party, neighborhood watch. My problem with this is that most of the people here are most likely followers and don't have any clue why they think a bike path would be a bad choice. It's probably cause they watch FOX...j/k..lol

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JuLeah - posted on 12/18/2010

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There is ignorant, slow witted, uneducated and down right stupid. This group has a few of each. I am gonna guess they all have more then this in common; they also watch Fox News.

Mrs. - posted on 12/18/2010

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Um yeah, Ali American politics does have to become more inclusive and stop catering to the extremists in the parties. Still, it seems like saying that conflict between jews and muslims in the middle east should end. Yes, it should, but how? You see it even on here. People have a core set of beliefs and conflict ensues...that's America's history.

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The problem here is that people think tax payers money should only be used to fund things if they will personally derrive some benefit from it. If it doesn't directly benefit them then it's not worth doing. I can understand this thought to some degree because many tax payers feel like they get very little in return for their money and they would probably prefer it to be used for schools/more police or something else. I'm not saying I agree with their view, but I can understand it at least to that extent.

At the end of the day nothing would get done if it had to please everyone so I applaud the town for ignoring them and doing the bike path anyway.

On a side note, explaining the indirect benifit of less traffic, less death to bikeriders and cleaner air might win some over. I'm not sure portraying everyone with conservative views as ignorant and uneducated is the best way to go. It's always easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar.

Back in the UK, liberal, conservative, Christian, Athiest, working/upper/lower middle class and even the Royal family think about the environment. Environmentalism isn't something to be confined to an exclusive, educated group and used as a weapon against anyone and environmentalists are no longer viewed as hippy extreamists. Perhaps American politics needs to become more moderate and more inclusive and move away from the liberal v. conservative mentality.

Rosie - posted on 12/18/2010

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oh for christs sake, i simply don't get it. and fox viewers are informed? fuck me....

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lol. I don't understand why even these issues can divide people. Bike riding and walking are good for people. I've lived in towns here that don't even have sidewalks. It's wrong to make people so care dependant, they need to be healthy and so many are not. No one is forcing people to give up their car, they are just giving people the option.

Krista - posted on 12/18/2010

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Tah has a good point. There are a lot of people out there who will go against something not because they've actually thought it out, but because their peers are against it.

You'd THINK that by the time we're adults, we'd be beyond the point of mindless conformity, but evidently not...

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Tah, that's exactly what I was thinking xD

But at the same time, I wonder how much worse the world would be if people DID have minds of their own.

Krista - posted on 12/18/2010

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There are some people out there who will always have a knee-jerk reaction to anything they see as contrary to their own views. These people in the article are obviously very anti-liberal, and of course stereotypically, the people who care the most about biking and the environment are tree-hugging hippie liberals. Therefore bike paths = communism. It's sad that these people live with so much anger and fear that they can't judge an idea on its merits, but instead automatically reject it because of who proposed it.

Jenn - posted on 12/18/2010

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Why would someone object to putting in bike paths? That's got to be the craziest thing I've heard today without a doubt! Some people seriously just like to bitch about anything I think.

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Also, and you even quoted me, my statement about the Tea Party was when I FIRST heard about them. I haven't cared too much about them or anything really (I'm politically apathetic unless something incredibly stupid comes up) so I haven't bothered with keeping tabs. I completely agree with you on not lumping everyone into the same category but like I said before, extremists make the papers. And I think we agree that these people are extremists.

C. - posted on 12/18/2010

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Oh, I fully agree it doesn't show very much intelligence on their part. But I also think that making generalizations isn't going to help anyone.. Just sayin. But I understand where you're coming from.

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Christina, the sad thing is that it's the extremists who go out and do something to make the headlines. That's why Islam has had such a bad rep, why racism is such a big deal, and why I typically hate political parties. I don't even bother with the news, really. I just happened to see this because my hubby was watching it.

Regardless, their attempt at debate was reckless and ridiculous. This particular group didn't seem to have all their marbles. It'd be different if their arguments were valid, but they weren't even close. It makes me wonder if they really believe what they're saying or if they're just following their little crowd. For their sakes, I hope it's the latter, but either way it doesn't show much intelligence.

C. - posted on 12/18/2010

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"When I first heard about the Tea Party...uh, party...I was told that they basically object to change"

Um, no, not all Tea Party participants object to change. As in EVERY political group, there are extremists. Please don't just generalize this to only the "Tea Party" people..

Anyway, as someone who enjoyed the whole Tea Party thing in our state back home (I didn't actually attend b/c at the time it was physically impossible, but I did watch it on the news), I don't see anything wrong with change in general. Bad change, I am opposed to. Good change, I am not opposed to. Bike paths are a GOOD change, especially if it's OFF the roads! (Personally I can't stand the bike paths along roads and highways b/c too many cyclists do NOT follow the rules of the road and in some instances it ends up in a tragedy.)

Sara - posted on 12/18/2010

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I just wonder when progression/change became the equal of communism/socialism/marxism (that can all be used interchangeably without any regard for what they actually are)?

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When I first heard about the Tea Party...uh, party...I was told that they basically object to change, whether it's a good change or a bad one. Seems kinda dumb to me. Change is necessary. Is it always good? No. But it's certainly not always bad.

As hubby's friend says, they're driven by fear of the unknown. That's really sad to me. The random term "political germaphobes" comes to mind...But seriously, you're going to oppose BIKE PATHS? Gawd...

Sara - posted on 12/18/2010

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I live in a college town as well, and while I have come to hate bikers and their blatant disregard for following the rules of the road, bike paths and carpooling are also encouraged in my community. I've never heard an argument against it. What the hell is wrong with those people? Sorry, this kind of blows my mind.



I think that it seems lately that people get themselves worked up over really small, insignificant things. Maybe they feel powerless in the bigger picture (the federal gov't) so they try to take action in their communities to try to empower themselves. If you ask me, this story is pretty crazy.

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Btw, Jonesboro is a college town with a large community of foreign students, most of whom have bikes and ride them every day through the campus and around town. It's often their only form of transportation, other than walking, and they do it all year long.

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