Jaundice linked to Autism?

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Nikki - posted on 10/11/2010

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I think this study is a little weak, it kind of irritates me when they publish studies like this which have no real merit, it only seems to cause controversy and panic.

I just wish that once and for all they could find the real reason behind autism so all of these stabs in the dark can be finally dismissed and possible risk factors could be identified.

Ez - posted on 10/14/2010

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Christina, as Cathy said, most people have agreed there is a genetic component to autism. All this research suggests is that jaundice may trigger that genetic predisposition. Again, there would need to be a lot more research done to really make any conclusions here, so I'm not sold on the idea either. But it does make sense.

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Two of my babies had breastmilk jaundice. It started around 2 weeks and didn't go away with Ethan till about 4 months. Eli was clearing up but it wasn't gone when he passed. I suplimented formula with both of them and thats probably why I quit producing enough milk, pumping never quite worked the same. Most of the babies I know who had jaundice had newborn jaundice.

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Sometimes jaundice is caused by the baby not getting enough nutrients if they are breastfed, that's why they sometimes offer formula. For Logan he was switched entriely as my milk hadnt come in.

Dana - posted on 10/18/2010

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Hmm, my son had slight jaundice too but, they did give him light therapy. Maybe it was because he was a preemie.

La - posted on 10/18/2010

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My daughter had slight jaundice and they did not give her light therapy and she did not have any formula.

Dana - posted on 10/17/2010

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No, there is something about being jaundiced and receiving formula....I don't recall though.

Rosie - posted on 10/17/2010

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my youngest had slight jaundice dana, and he did not receive any light therapy. maybe a breastfed infant might, i dont' know. i've always heard that breastfed infants should have formula if they have jaundice-just for the time. they did say something in the hospital to me about him being formula fed and that was good for jaundice. maybe i'm just taking what they said and turning it into something it's not, lol!!

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What could trigger it to one child could be different for the next.So it could well be that for some children Jaundice could be what triggers it.Is it just severe j or any level of it?..my first daughter got it mild, shes fine.Its hard to know what causes it especially when the say many different types of things can trigger it..for each child what triggers it is something different.Some say its dairy products even for some kids.

Dana - posted on 10/17/2010

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I think here in the US that babies receive light therapy no matter what degree they have it, while they're still in the hospital. Mary would know that answer best if she were part of this thread...



As far as saying that it's the brain damaged degree of jaundice that may be linked to autism, the article/research is not implying that autism is caused by brain damage, which would tie the two together.

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Regardless of it being severe enough to deem light therapy necessary, jaundice can cause brain damage and autism isn't caused by brain damage. I know many babies who required light therapy - myself, my son, my friend's daughter etc. Yes not all babies who become jaudiced require light therapy, but I think more do than people realise. I know when Logan was in the neonatal there were at least 10 other babies in that ward alone having light treatment not counting ones that may be on the maternity ward.

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I agree Kate...it seems they always want to find something to blame for something else. Around 65% of babies here in the UK have some degree of jaundice so it's very common.

La - posted on 10/15/2010

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My daughter had slight jaundice when she was born, but that is because she was ABO incompatible (problem with our blood types) and I don't feel that it contibuted to her autism. However, I do feel that the cytotec they used to induce me with and the resulting trauma we experiened with our extremely low heart rates and emergency c-section may have been the catalyst for her autism (assuming that autism needs a biological predisposition AND a catalyst for it to surface)

Kate CP - posted on 10/15/2010

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Meh. My daughter had jaundice (most babies do) and she's not Autistic. Seems like the MMR "link" all over again.

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Logan had quite severe jaundice which required light therapy for four days. He's had to have his hearing test redone as we were told it can cause brain damage if it is very severe. The hearing test was fine. However, saying that I think it is much more likely that some people are more likely to be autistic because of their genes. Autism isn't the result of brain damage so I think it's a pile of tosh tbh!

C. - posted on 10/15/2010

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Oh.. I see now. That does make sense. But I'm still on the fence about it until more research is done.

C. - posted on 10/14/2010

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Um.. If it really was a missing link to Autism, I'd be wondering how the majority of my friends and their babies or children do not have any signs of Autism..

If it's severe enough, then MAYBE it could be a cause.. But I'm a little skeptical on the whole thing still..

Tracey - posted on 10/12/2010

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Cathy - good point but do the scientists and vaccine companies care as long as the money keeps rolling in?

Tracey - posted on 10/12/2010

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As 80% of autistics are boys does someone want to do a huge study (and get paid thousands of pounds) saying we don't want to worry parents but if you have a son this may be linked to autism?
Something else for new parents to worry about with not a lot of evidence. If your baby is born with jaundice there was nothing you could have done to prevent it and this will cause needless stress.

Maybe the scientists who warned us we were all going to die from swine/bird flu and needed vaccines for that will now try to develop a jaundice vaccine so they can make loads of money to sell by exploiting people's fears.

Ez - posted on 10/12/2010

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Agreed Cathy :)



Edited to add: The link between Pitocin and jaundice has been proven. But I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the link between jaundice and autism, just that it would explain a lot if it does become fact.

Ez - posted on 10/12/2010

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Ok I'm back and have read the article. It's very similar to another one I saw posted on FB today. I think the evidence is pretty speculative at this stage, but when you take the pitocin link into consideration, it doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility.

Increased use of pitocin = increase in babies experiencing jaundice = increase in autism diagnoses.

Ez - posted on 10/12/2010

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And what is linked to jaundice?? PITOCIN!! Which is why there is such an increase in babies needing light therapy. I don't have time right now to read the article, but it would make sense that there would be a flow-on effect - which would be the increased prevalence of autism.



I will be back later if I have time :)

Stifler's - posted on 10/11/2010

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Autistic kids are usually really really smart though just can't communicate the same way others do.

Meghan - posted on 10/11/2010

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ARGH!
Autism is a disorder...it is there regardless of vaccines or jaundice. If jaundice caused Autism then how come it is such an epidemic now...
I have no idea what causes Autism but I definitely don't buy this one anymore than I do the "link" between vaccines.

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I can see why they would want to study both and try to determine a link if there is one. I know autism is not brain damage but brain damage can heal, so wouldn't you think there could be a possibility that a tiny bit of damage done, that wouldn't be noticeable at 1 or 2 weeks old, could be a cause of the rewire.



I know 3 people with aspergers who were jaundice as infants to the extent of needing to be under billy lights. Most likely just a coincidence but who knows.

Obviously in order for this study to mean anything it would have to be a lot more detailed.



The study lacked data on severity of jaundice, which involves having elevated levels of bilirubin in the body. Bilirubin is yellowish pigment created as the body recycles old red blood cells. It is processed by the liver; during pregnancy the mother's liver handles the job and sometimes newborns' livers take a while to kick in.



The autism-jaundice link was not seen in Danish children born prematurely. The authors said brain development near birth might be most vulnerable to high bilirubin levels, but that's only speculation.



So obviously they would have to study a large number of children, checking the billirubin count in each one, with or without consistently and continue to check these children at regular check ups for 10 years or something. The study in this article was done on medical data.

Charlie - posted on 10/11/2010

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I actually think Autistic people are more highly evolved in a lot of ways .

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I can see how its possible. Jaundice causes brain damage. I have to read the rest of the article after I do dishes though :(

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