Justin Bieber: being gay is a decision and abortion is wrong even as a result of rape

Charlie - posted on 02/18/2011 ( 142 moms have responded )

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Fresh from winning a Brit award, teenage pop sensation Justin Bieber has suggested that homosexuality is a choice and that abortion is wrong even when pregnancy is caused by rape.



In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine, he appeared to label homosexuality as a choice rather than something that is uncontrollable.



He also spoke out against abortion even when pregnancy is caused by rape, saying “everything happens for a reason.”



The interview for next month’s Rolling Stone magazine has been distributed via blogs.



When asked what his views on homosexuality are, Bieber responded: “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.”



It is not clear whether he intended to label homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.



Bieber’s position stands in contrast with that of Lady Gaga who last year said: “there are some people in this world that believe being gay is a choice. It’s not a choice, we’re born this way.” Her single ‘Born This Way’ has been described as the new gay anthem by Sir Elton John.



In his interview with Rolling Stone magazine, Bieber went on to say “I think you should just wait for the person you’re … in love with,” when asked about abstinence.



Despite his strong Christian background he did not argue against pre-martial sex.



“I really don’t believe in abortion,” he told the magazine “I think [an embryo] is a human. It’s like killing a baby.”



He added that while it is “really sad” for a woman to become pregnant after being raped, he claimed that “everything happens for a reason.”



“I don’t know how that would be a reason,” he added. “I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”



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thoughts ?



Ok new question , should the media be aloud to print or air things from teens without parental permission and I say parents because obviously the PR guy or manager has ulterior motives behind decisions .

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Saying things like you wish his mom aborted him is incredibly immature and a vile thing to say! Just because you disagree with his opinion doesn't mean it is wrong, everyone is entitled to opinions and his may change as he grows up and lives life a little or it may stay the same but that is his entitlement.

Also I really don't think he was denying homosexuality Sarah, I am pretty sure he was saying to each their own as it doesn't affect him and shouldn't affect others, sometimes we have to remember that many journalists love to twist the persons words whom they are interviewing to give them a more 'interesting news worthy' story...

Isobel - posted on 02/19/2011

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I wish I knew now HALF of what I knew when I was 16.



I got an A+ on a pro-choice paper handed in to a pro-life teacher. I was smart and well informed, I had valid opinions...AND at 17 I dropped out of school and became a waitress because I was mad at my mom.



We have not turned teenagers into children, we have scientifically proven that they ARE still children. Their brains have not fully developed and their analytical and decision-making skills leave a little to be desired.



I'm not saying we should treat them like idiotic china dolls, but we DO need to take their words with a grain of salt cause they ARE still kids.

Dana - posted on 02/19/2011

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My thoughts are I think the title of this article is misleading. He never said being gay was a choice, his words are being twisted. He's a kid, let him act like one and maybe everyone should act like adults when responding to his naivety.

I also think he realized how ridiculous his statement on abortion was and tried to fix it, again, he's a kid who's being made to grow up fast.

Jenn - posted on 02/20/2011

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He's a straight A student - so I'm not giving him false attributes - he's just a smart kid. Especially to pull straight A's while working as hard as he does.

Brandi - posted on 02/20/2011

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Would half of you guys be name calling this kid if he were your son? Dont think so. Immature for adults to name call kids, geez. You guys are talking about his immature opinions, yet you guys are being pretty damn immature. Take a look at your comments and tell me how name calling and bad mouthing a kid is mature. Just saying.

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Cyndel - posted on 02/22/2011

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I don't think they should be allowed to print a word without parental permission.
I agree though about abortion. Punish the rapist, not the innocent child. If the mother cannot keep the child which I completely understand, then give the child up for adoption. But i also wouldn't take the right away from the women.

Stifler's - posted on 02/21/2011

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I've heard worse things said about JB. It's the same every time there's a teen star... Miley, Britney Spears, etc. They ask them some dumb question to cause controversy.

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I wouldn't agree w/ that either though..... Hearing that kind of talk from another teen.... maybe, but a mother saying that about another child? Sorry, it just doesn't compute to me.

Isobel - posted on 02/21/2011

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again though, yes, that was an idiotic thing to say...but I TOTALLY remember people saying that about my beloved Donny Wahlberg, as well as all the other cheesy teen idols. Take THAT with a grain of salt as well.

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Dislike his music? Fine. Dislike his persona? Fine. Dislike what he said? Fine. But to HATE on a CHILD?!?! What type of MOTHER would say such an awful thing, Sarah?

Bonnie - posted on 02/21/2011

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What could you possibly hate about Justin Bieber that much that you have wishes that his mother had aborted him? You don't even know the kid personally.

Brandi - posted on 02/21/2011

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wow Sarah... what if someone said that about you or your children. That is the rudest comment I have ever read!

Desiree - posted on 02/21/2011

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This is one time I am so glad my daghter has developed her own opion and doesn't go with the flow. besides the fact She can't stand the kid every time she sees him or hears his music she flips. I asked her over the weekend why she doesn't like him she said he sounded like a girl and is sick of people pushing him and his music at her. There are better artists in the world and he isn't one of them. Listening to her friends a number of them don't like him. I supose he is a case of either you like him or you don't. but considering she has be bought up on music dating from the 80's and before and classical music. She has very defined choices, Milley Cirus and Justin Bebier just don't make the grade.

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somedays i wish Justin Bieber's mum aborted him. but yeah hes like what 12 he's denying homosexuality because he's possible homosexual himself

Johnny - posted on 02/20/2011

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There is an enormous gulf between being intelligent and getting good grades. I got fantastic grades in high school, but looking back now, I'm only not ashamed of the naivete and stupidity of my opinions at the time because I was so young. I knew plenty of kids who didn't get great grades who had a far better understanding of how the world really worked than I did.

I do agree though that people go a little too far in their celebrity attacks. I actually stopped watching Bill Maher because of an absolutely disgusting joke he made about Justin Bieber (it wasn't even funny either). I definitely am not a Bieber fan, I am not impressed by him at all and find his talent questionable. But to personally attack teen stars? Any stars really? Yeah, I find that rather silly.

Besides, I prefer to reserve my venom for politicians and business leaders, lol.

Isobel - posted on 02/20/2011

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I'm out on the smart thing...I haven't heard him say anything much that would prove that sooooo...unless you know him personally, I'd say you are giving him false attributes as well :)

Jenn - posted on 02/20/2011

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You're right, Johnny. Whether or not we think it should matter, celebrity opinion has an influence on their fans. However, I think a lot of people like to say they hate or don't like a celebrity for no real reason, which I find odd. I can understand not agreeing with what he said, or worrying about the impact his words may have on his young fans, but why say you don't like him, or hate him, or wish him dead? Honestly, I think he's a great young kid who more kids should strive to be like. He's smart, talented, driven, motivated - all good qualities if you ask me.

Dana - posted on 02/20/2011

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Oh, I totally agree that it's a hard time for (gay) teens to go through. I wish it were easier and hope that someday soon it will be.

I think that the majority of his fans will understand that that isn't what he means. Also, even if he thought it was a choice, that isn't as bad as saying it's wrong. It's an unfortunate, ignorant way to think but, it doesn't condemn gay people.

Johnny - posted on 02/20/2011

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I don't know Dana, pre-teen gay boys are pretty vulnerable, make that extremely vulnerable. Two of my closest gay male friends tried to kill themselves during that time of their life. It's a horrible experience to go through puberty feeling so totally different, being often seriously bullied, and then to have your idol appear to make negative comments about you.... I think it really could be quite damaging. There is a reason the suicide rate for that group of youth is so insanely high.

I do agree though that it isn't exactly what Bieber said. I'm not entirely sure the media isn't twisting his words to create a controversy. Perhaps its a good reason why young, inexperience teen stars shouldn't be speaking to the media on major social or political issues. It's too easy for their poorly formed comments to be skewed for ratings.

Dana - posted on 02/20/2011

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I don't know that him saying “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.” is going to trash other (gay) boys emotions.

It is not clear that he's saying being gay is a choice, it's just bad wording.

Johnny - posted on 02/20/2011

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What those of you who are so quick to worry about those criticizing Bieber are forgetting is that his comments also will impact his young fans. As adults, we may not find his commentary particularly informed or insightful, but legions of silly young tweens (probably age 10-14) hang on his every word. My concern is particularly for the young boys who may be attracted to Bieber himself and how it's going to make them feel to have their emotions and self so completely trashed by their idol, or at least by the way in which the media is portraying what he said. And I'm sure we all know how great at critical media analysis 10 year olds are.

Jenn - posted on 02/20/2011

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Angela - you did in fact say that. You said that you don't like Justin Bieber because of what he said about abortion - so you're basing your whole opinion of him as a person on his one view on one topic. And what exactly was it that I stated that was immature? I'm pretty sure you were the one wanting to go on and on about "the hood", and THAT is what she was referring to as immature.

April - posted on 02/20/2011

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Sometimes we can't help feeling annoyed by people we don't actually know/never met. I don't have an opinion on Justin Bieber, as I have never heard his music/nor have I ever heard him speak. I DO, however, dislike Tom Cruise and will never have a nice word to say about him! Most of the time actions and words of celebrities are all fabricated to bring certain people more money...but some of us can see a sliver of the real person. I think I can see that in Tom Cruise and maybe some of you see that in Justin Bieber? Just wanted to say that because a few posters have complained that it isn't nice to call someone annoying when you've never met the person...

Isobel - posted on 02/20/2011

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How is he a bad influence now? He hasn't even started the womanizing and hitting the bong on camera yet...give him time.

Desiree - posted on 02/20/2011

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And why the hell should we be taking advice from a teenager who is so green behind the ears, that he is unaware of people other than himself. Any person to think his opinions actually matter the greater schem of things is worse than he is. Firstly he is a bad influence on our children, secondly he doesn't know any better. All he is a precocious child who will change his tune very quickly if God forbid he ends up on the wrong side of a law suite. and Media are just as bad if not worse. Its bad enough that rubbish comes out of politicains mouths. Justin Bieber's parents should have taught him when to shut up.

Jenni - posted on 02/20/2011

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I don't think anyone has "named called" for quite a few pages now. Just sayin.

Angela - posted on 02/20/2011

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TERESA,
I never said you said that Jenn was acting juvenile,just the statement that Jenn presented,I found juvenile.

JENN,
I never claimed I didnt like anyone that disagrees with me,but I can surely disagree with what there saying and not like the statements they make,thats the nature of debate :)

And Jenn and Teresa,
just for the record, Im not the type of person that implies anything,If I have anything to say I will say it directly and If Iam addressing you I will address you by your name,as is would be the same if anyone that ive debated with on here or spoke with on here,were standing right in front of me.

Have a wonderful Day Ladies! :)

on to the next debate! :)))

Brandi - posted on 02/20/2011

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He is just a kid. Yeah, many of us may find him annoying or whatever. BUT, he is a human being. He has an opinion, just like all of us. Do I think he should be talking about these topics at that age, no. But, he can still have an opinion. If he chooses to believe that way then fine.

I may not believe in what you say, but I will stand by your right to say it.

Jenni - posted on 02/20/2011

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Well yes, the questions were a double-edged sword. It wouldn't have mattered how he answered them on the spot. The interviewer would have tripped him up somewhere. Adults get tripped up by interviewers all the time. A 16 year old is an easy target in comparison.

Anyways, I feel it's a bit sleazy to be asking a 16 year old his views on controversial adult issues. If he *chose* to talk about them himself it'd be a different story.

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Yea i do think he was blindsided, but a lot of people are pro-life, no exceptions. If you think its murder, why agree its ok to murder an innocent person because of a violent act which caused conception.Two wrongs don't make a right. It would have struck controversy no matter what he said about the issue. if he was pro choice, pro lifers would be going on about him being wrong too.

Jenni - posted on 02/20/2011

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Emma, I agree. I think he was blind-sided. The interviewer was just trying to grill him to get a story out of it.

Stifler's - posted on 02/20/2011

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I think in an interview you can say things quickly and can't really think about what you're going to say for 20 minutes. I doubt the point he was trying to make or what he was trying to say was that being gay is a choice or that "oh dear how unfortunate... someone got pregnant as a result of rape... everything happens for a reason". He was probably put on the spot, which is how most of these ridiculous PR situations happen.

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Believing in fate and destiny has nothing to do with maturity...Besides, he actually has an opinion on Nature vs Nurture, and abortion rights. Most teens are too busy worrying about how their pants fit, who likes who or their completion to have an actual opinion on such controversial issues. That actually shows a deep level of maturity.

Johnny - posted on 02/19/2011

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Anyone who believes that "everything happens for a reason" has a lot of growing up to do. He is 16. He lives in a bubble. Like most people his age, he's got little life experience and most of what he knows comes from his family and handlers. He's actually probably far more isolated than most 16 year olds you would ever meet. Like other posters have said, I really have to question the wisdom of his PR people on this one. I think their intention right now is to make him into a Christian superstar.

What makes me sad is how all the tweeny bopper gay 13 and 14 year olds must be feeling right now. It's not just girls who are head over heels for him. Some of his biggest fans are boys. I can't imagine what they must think when they hear from some guy that they worship such negative things about who they are.

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If those are his opinions so be it, but it was stupid of the interviewer to ask him, knowing he was only 16. i dont think he said anything too out of line, except for the rape thing.

Yahreevah - posted on 02/19/2011

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1st off I know I may offend some with my comments, but it's in no way a means of disrespect. I know he may only be 16yrs. old, but Jesus himself made controversial remarks @ an younger age. NO I am not saying he's equal to Jesus, Im just making the point that age has nothing to do with 1ns thoughts on certain subjects. He knows what he's saying. He may be very religious. I also find great humility in him saying "I guess I havent been in that position". That shows room to grow. Abortion is something that is between a woman & GOD, not man/women. I wouldnt suggest it but I would not verbally/physically abuse 1 who saw that as that only way out. As for Homosexuality; the only reason I say its a choice, is because we all choose who we date. Nothing more nothing less.

Jenni - posted on 02/19/2011

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What I can't wrap my head around is *why* they were asking a 16 year old pop icon such controversial questions in the first place?

Shouldn't they be asking him what his fav top on a pizza is? Or what he looks for in a girl? Are his eyes brown or hazel? His ideal first date?

Doesn't his audience just want to know he still sleeps with his favourite stuff animal he's had since he was 5?

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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Well, you're entitled to your feelings Angela. I just prefer to not only like those who I agree with on everything. There are people on here who I have debated different things with, and we have disagreed, but that doesn't mean that I don't like them.

Stifler's - posted on 02/19/2011

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Why do they even ask "celebrities" these questions. If Beiber got someone pregnant, he has enough money to set that kid up for life. So of course he thinks abortion is wrong, he's a teenager for crying out loud. One that is working and not thinking about knocking people up or being gay.

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Jenn,
I just dont.
its mostly his music that I dont like and like I said in my previous post

And his whole stance on abortion?!
"He added that while it is “really sad” for a woman to become pregnant after being raped, he claimed that “everything happens for a reason.”

“I don’t know how that would be a reason,” he added. “I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”"

He himself,Doesent even know what he's talking about!
Yeah I would like for him to sit down with a rape victim,who is pregnant by the man that raped her and let him tell her "Everything Happens for a reason"....Yeah lets see what the woman whos been raped thinks about that.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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Well, moving away from the hood - now that we have proven that he is only speaking in his native Canadian tongue, what reason is there to not like him?

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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JENN,Never called you stupid either...

LIKE I SAID, If im going to address YOU, I will call you out by YOUR NAME!

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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And I never said I was the only one who knew about the hood...
And I have nothing against Canada,I JUST DONT CARE!
NOW KICK ROCKS AND KEEP ON KICKIN EM JENN!
Find something else better to do,cause Im over it.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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Angela, no I was not trying to tell you what "the hood" is at all. I'm just telling you that he sounds like a regular old Canadian teen as others already agreed with me on. Thanks for calling me stupid though - that's fuckin' funny! Especially when you then went on to use a double negative, thereby inferring that I know it all - so thank you! ;) I'm not sure why you're so angry or what you have against Canada that you would state that you have no desire to know anything about Canadian teens. Or why you think I was the one being juvenile, and getting into semantics (which by the way I wasn't - I was trying to explain that his accent is Canadian). And as Laura already pointed out, it went from the Biebster to the hood because you brought it up - so I guess you're calling yourself ridiculous? Also, why do you think you're the only one who knows what the hood is?

Bonnie - posted on 02/19/2011

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I can't believe he is Canadian. Better yet, I can't believe he is from the same province I live in LOL.

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Im serious when I say this, but your awesome to debate with Laura :) your intelligent and stubborn, like me! :D

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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And that was fine if you disagree,I dont mind thats why its called a debate! And im all for those! :) If I wasnt I wouldnt be here and studied it in college :)

Isobel - posted on 02/19/2011

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sorry...I was the only person who disagreed with you in between your two posts...I just assumed...but we all know what happens when you assume ;)

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