Lets discuss the octobitch...

Sharon - posted on 12/25/2010 ( 57 moms have responded )

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I'm bored. Its late christmas day, kids are playing with their games and i'm relaxing and reading the news.... ok this isn't news, its gossip...

http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/11406...

Nadya Suleman has done it again. The Octomom posed for her family's holiday card in a low-cut tank top that left little to the imagination. But she offered up an alternate mystery for the rest of us. Where are all her kids?

On first view, I counted 10 9 (she has 14, remember?) and thought maybe it was a bad crop job. But a write-up of the card in US Weekly reveals she set up the shot as her plus 10 of her kids. I wouldn't want to be her in 20 years when the kids are pawing through piles of old photos.

For a woman who has cornered the market on bizarre, this just may take the cake. Could you explain to your kids how you picked and chose who was in and who was out? Sorry, Junior, your sister knows how to rock a Santa house. You looked more like an elf. Better luck next time kid!

A casual glance of the Christmas cards in my living room archway shows not one family who left any of their kids out of their holiday photos. A few left the parents out (which is what we usually do -- hello, my kid is much more photogenic than me, and I'm not too stupid to admit it), but the majority subscribe to the "more is more" school of holiday cards. Look, it's our dog! Look, it's our other dog! Look, it's our dog and our cat!

It's a minor snub to leave someone out, but in families, a snub is a snub. And this isn't just a silly Christmas card. It's yet another a sign of a mom who clearly has no idea of the psychological mark she's leaving on her children.

Setting aside the controversial way she ended up with so many children, the issue that's always rankled is how one woman can possibly find enough time to give 14 children their due. It would be hard if she had a partner in this to find the time. With no parental figure to share the burden of offering one-on-one time, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's impossible to make every child feel like they're getting enough to go around.

The older children had their lives turned into a media circus. They lost their Mom to the constant care of eight little babies. One kid added to the mix can give your toddler nightmares, make them regress on potty training, and act out. Now imagine adding eight.

Nadya needs to be thinking about including her kids while she still has them around. Trying to wrangle 14 kids into a photo has to be hard, but people expect crazy cards at Christmas time. Do you think she realized what she was doing?
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I think she's a mentally ill dumbass. WHO????? has that number of kids ON WELFARE using IVF?, a fantastically expensive treatment, when she already has a number of children at home, some of whom are disabled while she herself is disabled???

She has disabled children. At least one has a cleft lip. It hasn't been repaired. Yet, she's had a couple go-rounds of plastic surgery. I could cheerfully beat the fuck out of her.

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I guess I just don't get all the hatred for her. Yes, I think she is irresponsible and the whole situation is regrettable, but so? There are so many irresponsible people living public lives in regrettable circumstances. So what if she's had plastic surgery? So what if she dresses indecently (although a tank top = indecent? really?). So what if she's insane? So what if she is a media whore? She certainly isn't alone in any or all of those categories. I guess everyone needs someone to hate. I just don't understand the strength of feelings and anger and hatred that she inspires in people who have nothing to do with her. Maybe I'm lucky in that here in Australia it is easy to avoid reading or watching anything about her. but, pft I couldn't care less about her, she is just another screw up in a screwed up world.

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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At least once - she used a lawsuit she won to pay for some IVF, its thought she used various loans student etc, to pay for the other ivf. Since she doesn't have fertility issues - it really only took a couple of treatments.

Her dad some how finagled the house. I don't remember how.

She nearly lost the house last spring, came up with $8K without telling how and saved it temporarily.

Now she's about to lose it again. There is no way she's going to raise $450K without a tv deal. But she's friggen desperate.

With the way she dresses, she ought to get into preggo porn and raise the money that way.

I don't know why she still has her kids. Except that we all know our lousy govt thinks crackheads have rights to their children, and she isn't (quite) as bad as a crackhead.

This is the picture everyone claims has the cleft palate baby in it..

http://coolfwdclip.blogspot.com/2010/12/...

she isn't crazy religious. She wanted to justify why she used all the embryos. If she were crazy religious, we'd hear about the horde taking trips to church. If she were crazy religious we'd see something about JESUS in that christmas shot.

Katherine - posted on 12/26/2010

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She is one who needs to be evaluated for sterilization. Seriously.

Becky - posted on 12/27/2010

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She is a media whore. That's my issue with her. My grandparents had 13 children . . . after his first wife passed away, my Grandfather remarried (several years later) and 5 step kids! Granted they were not all the same age. But there was one article in the local paper about the family. My Grandfather worked hard to take care of his family. He never asked for hand outs or free stuff to raise his children . . . and often they went with out the things other families may have gotten because he could not afford it at the time, but they never went hungry.

Having 14 children with no way to financially support them all is simply irresponsible. The whole situation is upsetting because she never thought about the kids though all of this. She thought about her self & being in the spotlight. It's one silly person with a lot of children. Big deal - the media need to leave her alone and the rest of us need to mind our own business and then she can figure out exactly what she needs to do to raise all those kids. I just don't think she's news, now, then or ever. She's just a selfish, irresponsible, young woman than needs to learn how to stand up & take responsibility for her own actions.

Tara - posted on 12/26/2010

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I want to know who paid for the IVF.
If she is on welfare where did she get the money to buy a house?
And where are the authorities on this issue?
A baby with a cleft lip that hasn't been repaired? That can cause a myriad of problems for that child. Isn't there a program in the US that pays for things like that for people who are unable to pay for it themselves?
I have avoided learning anything about this woman, simply based on the fact it's gossip, BUT she is a moron who should be made to work off the debts she owes by cleaning toilets in a mental institution... perhaps she'll learn something from the patients... perhaps she'll find a man who matches her personality. Or a woman....
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Mother - posted on 01/02/2011

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Oh my!!!!!!! I don't watch much TV so I'd never even heard of this woman!! *yuck*

Her poor belly looked sore.

Jackie - posted on 12/29/2010

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Having plastic surgery is not generally a problem. The problem is she has 14 kids and no income but she can afford cosmetic surgery? The problem is she is relying on everyone else to support her children emotionally and financially. The problem is not that she tries to whore herself out to the media. The problem is that, that's how she expects to raise her kids with no other means. The problem is not that she wears a tank top for a Christmas picture. the problem is that she chose to leave a select few children out of it. The problem is not that she has 14 children. The problem is she has 14 children for selfish reasons and a few with disabilities that she has no intentions of caring for.

Jenny - posted on 12/28/2010

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Well I'm not a fan of creatiing people artificially to begin with but this bitch takes the cake. I think she was expecting to be Kate Gosselin and pay for her future with this huge family. I think she is ill-equipped to deal with her situation, is a narcissist, delusional and had hoped for an army of nannies for their childhoods.

I hope the way this is backfiring will put the brakes on other looney tunes wanting reality show celebritydom.

Charlie - posted on 12/28/2010

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She is a nutcase she had those kids for all the wrong self centred reasons and now whores herself and her children out to the media .

Amanda - posted on 12/28/2010

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i think she's crazy, clearly a media whore, and as Kate says a "twat waffle" (LMAO) but who knows if she's a "good mom" it seems just about everything written or aired about her has the possibility of being false or rumor.... but i will say, what bothers me is that last year she posed in a bikini in one of the trash mags and said she worked out to get her body like that and had 0 plastic surgery.... as many of you already said, that's a load of crap! never mind stretch marks, skin does not bounce back after stretching as far as it did (nor do the muscles). after a 10lb 8oz baby my belly looks like it could use a good ironing, and i am in excellent shape and work out daily. why deny the tummy tuck? i mean come on lady, you aren't helping your case!

Nikkole - posted on 12/28/2010

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YEA RIGHT no plastic surgery does she think were all stupid??? I mean i had two kiddos and my stretch marks are horrible and i have saggy boobs now lmao but having 14KIDS and not having ONE stretch mark or saggy boobs and looking like she does pfft what lies!

Shauna - posted on 12/27/2010

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yeah shes insane--- i saw an interview with her last year and she claims that she has never had any plastic surgery, and she was inhereted with great genes, and she has neve worked out, and the stretch marks just magicaly disapeared.

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She was given the option for selective reduction. She declined. She chose the amount of embryos to get put in. She knew the possibility of them all taking. After having six already, it was extremely selfish of her to have another one.

Becky - posted on 12/27/2010

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Didn't Dr. Phil pay for those nannies?
Sherri, the problem with implanting that many embryos is that a pregnancy with multiples is much higher risk than a pregnancy of one child. And the more you are carrying, the higher the risk. It's rare that all 8 babies would survive, even more rare that they wouldn't end up being micro-preemies with a whole host of health problems. I believe that here, the standard now (not sure if it's a policy or just best practice) is to place only 2, 3 at the most, embryos in an IVF cycle. I don't think it's ethical or responsible to place that many embryos in any woman, but especially not a woman who already has other children and has no means to support or care for those children.
No, we're not there, but even her own mother has said she doesn't feel she's able to care for the children properly. That's pretty telling, don't you think? I don't have an issue with people having large families when they can afford to care for their children and are able to manage all those children. (The Duggars don't bother me) But when you're a single mom with no income and very little support? I just don't think that's right.

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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1. I don't think she looks that hot. She looks like a hot mess. Maybe its because I associate her face with sheer stupidity. In my head every time I see her face I also see "dumbfuckingwhorebitch" too.

2. If I were as hot as Jennifer Aniston or Jolie I'd dress to show it. NOT in some skanky ass tank top with my kids though.

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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i agree that not having a partner isn't a prerequisite for having kids. A person can be a good parent without a spouse or partner.

But to FOURTEEN KIDS? Really? how do you take joy in your kids when they're being raised by nannies?

Her mom has admitted she's been run down by caring by the previous SIX kids. THREE of whom have medical issues. Now there are EIGHT more. What happens if something happens to Nadya?

Kate Gosselin - didn't go into her role LOOKING for notoriety or fame. She wanted more kids. Fertility was an issue - six at once was a surprise.

She was a controlling bitch - but who wouldn't be with a fuck up like jon and 8 kids? Organizing that many kids is a feat in and of itself. Jon was a clown who didn't take anything seriously except his image and um he sucked at that too.

Stifler's - posted on 12/26/2010

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the fact that she doesn't have a partner to help her out or any older kids to help with chores and crap socioeconomic circumstances (if it wasn't for media attention) is what makes it insane to keep having more babies.

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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I don't think its impossible to raise a crap load of kids, I think have 8 2 yr olds is .. well.. its fucking insane. I cringe when I see a mom wrangling twins or triplets because I know she has it hard. but EIGHT? FUCKING EIGHT? geeze my vagina just had a twinge, yeah i know she had a c-section but still....

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my mom birthed 6 children, married someone with kids who moved in, and always had foster kids and "strays" who needed a place to stay. So ten usual kids and at any given time we could have up to 20 staying with us. It was insane. She never had a nanny. And she had a job for the most part. Octomom should be taking care of her children. Its not like she can't do it.

Meghan - posted on 12/26/2010

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I kinda wish she was one of those things that we could just ignore and would go away...

Nikkole - posted on 12/26/2010

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Yea! With that many kids and not having any help YEA i could see hiring nannies BUT not getting them for free or whoring yourself out to the media to get money! I think ignoring your kids and having some one else pretty much raise them is a horrible thing to she dosent need those kids its just something that gives her attention! I feel for those babies!

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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Social services will only step in if she is abusing the kids. Ignoring them or leaving their care up to someone else.. is not actionable.

Nikkole - posted on 12/26/2010

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HUH ill have to look it up and watch it usually if anything about her comes on i change the channel quick lol

Stifler's - posted on 12/26/2010

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she tried to kick them out and argued with them and stuff like that. the whole train wreck was on dr. phil for about 3 episodes.

Nikkole - posted on 12/26/2010

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WOW shes a great mom "rolls eyes" if the nanies said she was a shitty mom you would think social services would come in but she probably acts totally different around other people! Im sorry but you cant give 100% equal attention to that many kids at that young of age! She just makes my stomach hurt! And yea i have 2 kids and i dont have that much time to work out lol!

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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She has been on foodstamps and collects social security (there is where the other money came from). She said in a prior interview that she didn't consider foodstamps or SSI to be welfare. She's fucking wrong.

She also stated in another interview back in september that she was "preparing to go on welfare". LMFAO. Whatever bitch.

AND - I just love this - and I hate it - she has an offer from a porn company for $500K for 1 hour. PFT, she's already whored herself and her kids out for the media - she should go the extra step. All the Jolie freaks would be in line to get their hands on that.

According to an online mag she has nannies who help - how does a woman with no job pay for fucking nannies?

Stifler's - posted on 12/26/2010

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When do you get time to work out with 14 kids? LOL. She is a media whore. That's how she makes money and she was on welfare and Dr. Phil paid for her house or some shit too and nannies to come in and they said she was a shit mum aswell.

Nikkole - posted on 12/26/2010

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I like how she says she looks the way she does because she worked out and eats right YEA RIGHT no one has that many babies and looks like her! And i think having that many babies without a partner to help you out financially or mentally is STUPID i wanna know how she gets money for food,clothes,diapers,a house,a car,and gifts for her kids?? I guess by being a media whore and having her children pose for pictures and being on the news is how she gets her money which i think is stupid why should she get tv and photo shoots for having that many kids she shouldn't get rewarded for it! And i agree Kate Gosslin makes me sick too, she just drives me nuts with her attitude and how she got a tummy tuck for FREE,extensions for FREE, a tv show, a HUGE house,and free stuff for her and her kids. If you choose to get IVF thats YOUR choice you shouldn't get your own tv show or be paid to have photos taken of you and your kids im sure there are a lot of other people out there that has had a few kids that needs a tummy tuck and cant afford it or who has a ton of kids and wants a show and free stuff but cant get it! It just kinda makes me sick!

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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1. The people at the magazine said she planned the photo shoot that way.

2. You can clearly see the child (in another pic, in another link) that has the cleft lip/palate.

3. She has NO job.

4. She has no job prospects.

5. She had children with birth defects before getting pregnant with EIGHT babies. Seeing as she must have been on bedrest for a number of months - who took care of their special needs? Her aged mother. Nice.

6. In her pathetic circumstances she is about to lose her home.

7. A number of people who have been in close proximity to her have said she pays no attention to her kids whatsoever. She only does the "mommy routine" when the cameras are on. Seeing as they weren't paid for their comments I don't see how they could profit from those comments.

8. She's a single woman with FOURTEEN KIDS under 10 years of age. I have 3 kids. Its easy to give them all time and attention when they ask for it. But when I try to contemplate FOURTEEN kids and 8 of them are TWO YEARS OLD. They should be extremely active and eager kids.

9. Seeing as the oldest is 7 or 8 yrs old - who has a say at that age of whether or not they get to be in the FAMILY PORTRAIT?

10. If one of my kids were sick with a cold or leukemia I sure as fuck wouldn't leave them OUT OF THE FAMILY FUCKING PORTRAIT.

11. Who the hell dresses that way for a family picture? Last years picture was worse, by the way.

Dana - posted on 12/26/2010

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I thought she wasn't on welfare when she got pregnant, does anyone know where it says she was?

Amanda - posted on 12/26/2010

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She is one of those superficial bitches who acts all "Oh I love my babies sooo much! They are my life! This one is soo cute when she does this, and that one oooh he's a doll when he does this!" Yet like you said...there is NO WAY in hell that that woman can possibly give 14 children her undivided attention without at least a handful of them feeling left out! I mean and to not include 4 of her children in a Christmas card! Ugh! I can't believe someone doesn't go in and inspect her home, to make sure those children are receiving proper care! I feel so bad for them alL! They deserve better than this! There mommy loves the limelight and they suffer because of it! I have 4 kids and it's challenging for ME to divide my attention fairly between them all without hurting ones feelings or them feeling less loved!!! Imagining 10 more?!!?!?! Ha not that crazy! And what the hell was she even thinking wanting to IVF to have 8 more!!!!! She needs a pysch exam and her kids need a new home...that woman is too far gone! :) Ahh I feel much much better now! :)

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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Um yeah - I think Kates' doctor should lose his license too. And 6 embryos versus TWELVE is a HUGE difference.

Octobitch has zero common sense. And it drives me nuts that is ruining the lives of children and the institution of mom-hood just by continuing to breathe.

Nichole - posted on 12/26/2010

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This whole story has always bugged me. Why would she keep getting IVF when she was struggling financially and a disabled single mom and has disabled children. Not that welfare means you can't have babies just she's abusing the system....14??? Also not that a single or disabled or both mom is not fit, just it's harder when you are single ESPECIALLY when disabled. And not that just cuz you have a disabled child means you can't have other kids, just again it adds to the difficulty of raising a family. Who in their right mind would say hey I'll keep having MORE...now she's got 14! And WHY HASNT she fixed the one child's cleft lip....instead of another IVF?? And why are not ALL her children in her Christmas card picture??!! SHe just bugs me. Her & Kate Gosslin both... ugh.

Kate CP - posted on 12/26/2010

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You can tell she prides herself on looking like Angelina Jolie. *eye roll*

Oh God, that hurt. Eye rolls and sinus pressure=not fun. :(

Sharon - posted on 12/26/2010

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ugh, I wanna poke her lip with a pin and watch it deflate like a balloon.

Stifler's - posted on 12/26/2010

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I'm pretty sure she's talking about a chocolate milkshake with cream on the top and calling it healthy.

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I was under the impression that the house she lived in was her parents? I couldn't imagine not including one of my children in a family portrait? Even if they were off to college, which I know is NOT the case here, but if they were I would probably make one of those collage cards instead so they could STILL be included!

The thing that bothers me the most about her is that she's just another crazy religious woman! I can't let any of my embryos go so I gotta get 12 implanted in me! WTF? Psycho!!! I don't know a shat ton about IVF but why on Earth would you have over 20 embryos fertilized if you wouldn't dispose of the extras after you have had the # of children you want? WHY???

Johnny - posted on 12/26/2010

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I just wonder who is going to pay for all the therapy those 14 kids are going to need when they grow up? It should be whomever footed the bill for the IVF. I've got nothing but contempt for anyone who would take such huge liberties with a child's life, especially 14 children's lives.

Rosie - posted on 12/26/2010

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i may be the loner, but i don't feel she's all that bad as the media portrays her. she's not on welfare currently, the doctor who implanted her has lost his license. while i feel it was incredibley stupid of her to want that many children, and actually do IVF (which i'm confused as to how it was paid for) to get that many children, i don't know- she just doesn't push my buttons all that badly.

sure she's a twat, and should've stopped, but meh. i don't see where all the outrage is coming from. i'm more pissed off at the doctor that did her IVF.

Becky - posted on 12/26/2010

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I don't understand why she still has her children. That really bothers me.

C. - posted on 12/26/2010

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Quoting Lacye....: "She's not insane. She knew exactly what she was doing!"

Um, she may have known what she was doing, but nobody in their right mind would do what she did. Thus, I stand by my comment that she is in fact insane.

Lacye - posted on 12/26/2010

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She's not insane. She knew exactly what she was doing! She is fucking the government for all it's worth! The more kids she has, the more money she gets. She's trash. That's it. She needs to get off her nasty ass and go get a job like other single women have to do when they have kids! She needs to stop mooching off of the other people in this country and do something for herself that ugly bitch.

Kate CP - posted on 12/26/2010

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She's a twat waffle. I'm sick and too woozy to come up with anything else at the moment.

Definite twat waffle.

Krista - posted on 12/26/2010

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Erin makes a good point -- whatever doctor did this obviously has no medical ethics whatsoever and needs to have his license yanked from his wall, set on fire, and shoved up his ass while it's still smoldering.

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I read once that she had applied for student loans and blew the cash, rather than use it for schooling. She qualifies for all sorts of assistance through her B.S. circumstances. And then she whores herself and her children out for extra cash. I could also cheerfully beat the fuck out of her.

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Quoting Sharon G: "I think she's a mentally ill dumbass. WHO????? has that number of kids ON WELFARE using IVF?, a fantastically expensive treatment, when she already has a number of children at home, some of whom are disabled while she herself is disabled???

She has disabled children. At least one has a cleft lip. It hasn't been repaired. Yet, she's had a couple go-rounds of plastic surgery. I could cheerfully beat the fuck out of her."

Uh.. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me, too.. She's insane..

Ez - posted on 12/25/2010

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I think she's clearly unstable and more than likely is incapable of caring for those kids. But I feel it's the doctor who did the fertility treatment who should pay the biggest price in this fiasco. The recent discovery that he actually implanted 12 embryos is even more reason for him to have his licence yanked.

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