Looking Back....

?? - posted on 10/28/2009 ( 36 moms have responded )

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I was recently discussing with some of the prepubescent boys sitting in their mothers basements talking to us on COM (aka the women on COM that I have become friends with and have a blast talking too on FaceBook) and we were discussing our original reactions of reading threads on COM when we first joined. Want to take a walk back down memory lane?



How long have you been a member of COM? Do you remember which threads you read first? How did you react to the bitchiness or if you didn't see any right away, what was your thought when you did read the bitchiness? Were you shocked by the mommier-than-thou attitudes? Or were you expecting it? Do you feel that you have 'grown' from reading and dealing with bitchiness on COM?

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Dana - posted on 11/10/2009

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Quoting Amie:

Jamie AND Heidi,

So long as BOTH of you keep your personal issues to yourselves and off the board I don't see why anyone should leave.



I agree and I think it should be dropped at that.

~Jennifer - posted on 11/10/2009

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Quoting Jaime:

OK- so do I need to leave this group? I have been a member of this group for quite a few months already. Just an FYI I am the women Heidi is referring to and I have no need to have "shit" hit the fan. Please advise........



All I can advise is that I would hope that the 2 of you can remain civil to each other.  I mean, it's been fine so far, but I'm pretty sure the mods and admin would use the option to block people from the group if they get ugly with each other - I figure that if it's not ugly, then there's no reason to worry about it.



I, for one, don't want to see 2 grown women fighting about a 'shared' dude in the forums....and I haven't ........ yet

Amie - posted on 11/10/2009

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Jamie AND Heidi,

So long as BOTH of you keep your personal issues to yourselves and off the board I don't see why anyone should leave.

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Alexia - posted on 12/16/2014

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If it's the Emily Burlingham I personally know, she is a horrible person. Probably the most judgemental, condescending, know-it-all bitch I have ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life. Truly a PSYCHOPATHIC STALKER WEIRDO.

?? - posted on 11/10/2009

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I was just sayin to someone yesterday Where the hell did Jeannette go?!?!



I hope you had a fun vacation, and I'm glad to see you back :D

Jeannette - posted on 11/10/2009

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This is a great question! When I first joined, I was not surprised, but reserved. I wanted to see how other people posted, to get a feel so to speak, because I am so outspoken. I am also not one to walk on eggshells, so I had to keep the offensiveness to a minimum. The only "shocking" thing I saw was in the circumcision thread...but I laughed as soon as I read it, so it wasn't too offensive for me, but I saw several other moms get offended.
Anyway, I love chatting on here! I've missed it while away!

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**hangs my clean laundry on the line to dry**



no dirty laundry here... it's all clean :D

Jaime - posted on 11/10/2009

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Thank you ladies!

I don't plan on airring any dirty laundry, I have said my piece and don't need to go any further than that. Respect goes along way!!



PS

Love the group, love the tpoics and love the members!!

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OK- so do I need to leave this group? I have been a member of this group for quite a few months already. Just an FYI I am the women Heidi is referring to and I have no need to have "shit" hit the fan. Please advise........

~Jennifer - posted on 11/10/2009

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Quoting Heidi:

Well I would say I joined CoM around a year ago. All started at well, and I got some great advice and made some great friends. I always found a topic of interest and I try to help out where I can. Things have changed over the past few months though because of my exes wife. A while back when she joined I started seeing things she was posting about me and my son, and I certainly didn't appreciate it. So she had her group of friends and I had mine. Between these 2 groups there were lots of personal attacks form both sides. So backed away for awhile and only posted on forums where she was not a part of, but now I recently noticed she has yet again joined forums in which I am a member of and have been for quite some time. So I guess in time sh*! will hit the fan again, but I want no part of it.
So for me this sight has been a amazing opportunity to meet some great ladies, and gain some knowledge. For the most part all of you are absolutely awesome ladies and I have had a great time getting to know all of you. I look forward to more chats and more advice along the way as well.



...well, I hope she doesn't come to this group, because she'd be shitting in the WRONG fan.

Heidi - posted on 11/10/2009

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Well I would say I joined CoM around a year ago. All started at well, and I got some great advice and made some great friends. I always found a topic of interest and I try to help out where I can. Things have changed over the past few months though because of my exes wife. A while back when she joined I started seeing things she was posting about me and my son, and I certainly didn't appreciate it. So she had her group of friends and I had mine. Between these 2 groups there were lots of personal attacks form both sides. So backed away for awhile and only posted on forums where she was not a part of, but now I recently noticed she has yet again joined forums in which I am a member of and have been for quite some time. So I guess in time sh*! will hit the fan again, but I want no part of it.

So for me this sight has been a amazing opportunity to meet some great ladies, and gain some knowledge. For the most part all of you are absolutely awesome ladies and I have had a great time getting to know all of you. I look forward to more chats and more advice along the way as well.

Mel - posted on 11/09/2009

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Jenn you were one of the first people I got to know here on Coms and one of the least judgemental compared to the others so thats what I really really appreciated and I thought and still think your such an awesome chik

~Jennifer - posted on 11/06/2009

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I've been here (on CoM) for about a year- maybe a little more. I spent most of my time in the beginning just reading what others posted.... and my gods, what a bunch of assholes they were (some still are, but most of the prime assholes have since disappeared from the forums I read / participate in).

A lot of the groups I had first joined were related to special needs children, autism, cerebral palsy, seizures / epilepsy. I have to say one thing about those groups - there's no drama. Seems that the moms have more to worry about in those forums besides whose boob is exposed during breastfeeding, which chicken egg the latest vaccine was boiled in, or whose child cries for more than 5 minutes while they run to the bathroom with explosive diarhea. Honestly, I think that some of the parents of 'typical' children should troll some of the special needs forums and find out how to act appropriately when interacting with other moms.

I've had my share of 'encounters' on the welcome forum- names already mentioned being the most memorable to me as well- and I have to admit, trading barbs with a few of them amused me greatly for a short time. I do *so* love to tell people where to stick it when they act like turds. Sadly, I can no longer do that in the Welcome forum as it would be hypocritcal to do so in a community for which I have volunteered to maintain camaraderie and respect guidelines. C'est la vie....I'll just have to keep my opinions of the MASSIVE idiocy I see to myself. ( .....well, except for that Freudian slip on 'massive idiocy...)

=)

I joined DM at the beginning, pretty much one of the DM originals, and I will say that it is absolutely my favorite community on CoM. There are a few 'originals' that aren't here anymore, or active in the community that I truly miss debating with (if you're reading this, you know who you are, and COME BACK, dammit!) I truly appreciate the women that I have become 'more than forum friends' with, and all of them are people I have met in DM. I love having a place on this site where I can just be 'me', regardless of how bitchy or opinionated I am. It's about the only community that I can say what I think without having to be overly diplomatic about my 'response'. Most people have been able to handle it - granted, some haven't been able to, but honestly...their problem, not mine. I don't change my opinion of people's stupidity just because they got their feelings hurt, and I don't like to, (or even try to) sugarcoat my responses. Welcome to life. Not everyone agrees, and not everyone is going to 'like' you. Oh well.



All in all, I'd say CoM (DM especially) has been a positive experience, whether it be for creating friendships, intelligent debate, or pure entertainment during heated discussions. I've learned quite a bit about 'people', their thought processes, beliefs, cultures and countries.

I think that the one thing that CoM has helped me realize is that I'm lucky to be exactly who I am, and to have exactly what I have.

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I can't remeber when I joined COM but I'm pretty sure it's been over a year. I'm not even sure how I found out about it, I think a friend may have invited me.

Yes, I was shocked by some of the attitudes of people on here (I've never heard the term mommier than thou until reading this post and I love it! it really does describe some people to a tee). Here were mothers looking for advice on how best to help their kids and some B***H is ripping them a new a**hole because they had an opposing view. I felt bad for some of the mothers. Looking back, I shouldn't have been shocked, I've worked retail for 10+ years and I know there are some real 'characters' out there. I tried to stay away from the negitive but I did get into one bitchfest with a mom over the use of pacifiers. It was starting to get childish so I stopped responding. I do still read some of these little cat fights, I find them amusing. I only caught bits and pieces of the whole Passmore/Rhonda etc thing. It was amusing...I had no idea it was the same person until another mom pointed it out.

The first groups I joined were for moms of preemies and I found them a lot less nasty than the COM home page. I just wanted to help other moms who were starting the long hospital journey that I'd been throught with my son (that sounds holier than thou, it's not supposed to). I eventually joined other groups and found this group mentioned somewhere else and thought that I would check it out. So far, I think this a great group and it just might be what I've been looking for. For a debating group, you're so much more pleasnt and civil than the others, you're not jumping down each others throats. This is my first time posting to this group but I look forward to talking to you all again.

?? - posted on 10/30/2009

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I joined in March or April of this year, I can't remember. And I remember my first few threads were ... a smoking thread, a religous thread and a hitting thread. Hannah Ellison, Libby Hanlin & Amanda Passmore. Yeesh. Between the 3 of them I'm pretty sure everyone else on the planet would be considered poisoning, beating and stiffling their children to death.



When I joined, I knew there was gonna be bitchfests. Mainly because... I have 4 sisters... when you get a whole bunch of bitches together who feel they are doing everything the best they can and another one says 'you can do it better by doing this' bitches be bitches and they get bitchier! It's just... natural. So I knew comin in there were gonna be some loud mouths, some assholes, some whiners, some sweethearts, and there were going to be a lot of bitches.



What I didn't know though... is that MOTHERHOOD had SO MANY topics that were SOOOOOOOOOO controversial!!!!!!!! Bottles or boobs, cribs or basinnettes, co sleeping or not, CIO or no CIO, attachment parenting or......... wtf is the opposite of attachment parenting?!?! Those were the things that caught me off gaurd. As if kids that CIO automatically turn into serial killers and parents that bottle feed automatically kick their kids outta the house at 16 and parents that grow their own food automatically live on a farm and parents that shop at walmart are the devils right hand man.... and if you don't have religion in your life then your setting your child up for a life of aimless wandering...



Honestly all that crap bores me lol I like the conversations where everyone disagrees but actually has a brain to think, process and reply with something sensible and human!



There was the one thread where I insulted Kylie, accidentally, by using the extreme sarcasm warning I use sometimes in one of those... OMG COM IS SO HATEFUL threads. Thankfully Kylie was generous enough to accept my apology and I was able to explain I didn't mean any offense towards her.



And it was in that thread that I was about to just leave COM and I saw Sarah's post for DM, and figured fuck it, why not, and joined.



And then the whole Amanda/Rhonda/Sean/Hannah/Sheps bullshit.



And there has been some other ... things ... that have gone down, and I've gone off ... people like to hate me for some reason? I dunno, I wish I could say I care too, but I don't. I have made some good friends here though!



YAY FOR DM!



Oh and BTW Dana, I think you rock too! :D

Jaime - posted on 10/30/2009

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I think it was the start of 2009 that I joined COM, a couple of fb friends had sent invites. I remember and still can't believe how fired up people can get towards each other. I have had my share of COM drama and had all out battles with my husband's ex on here and others that jump on the band wagon. I have met a great group of ladies that I chat with quite frequently, and lots of other great people that I chat with occassionally. I have taken a step back in responding to many posts as it always seemed like I was being attacked by the same person/people when it had absolutely nothing to do with them.

I have learnt to try and not post in any thread my husband's ex has posted in and not get sucked into any of her complaints in regards to my husband. She is entitled to her opinions and a place to vent, even if I don't agree I try to walk or "scroll my mouse" away.

On a side note, I love reading the conversation's this group comes up with and the civil debates that go with it!!! Great Job with this group!!

Kylie - posted on 10/30/2009

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ahaha i guess those two made an impression because I still remember their names..:)

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Quoting Kylie:

Cool! great topic Jo…
I think I joined.. end of last year just after Jack was born. I was pretty much shocked at a lot of the things I read in the main page and Young Mums. First topic I got involved in was a debate about guns and then spanking and after that I was hooked. I remember I despised Jamie Massie for a while after she told me she was raising her boys to be real men and I was raising a sissy boy because I didn’t smack or cio.. LOL
I got a lot of help and support with breast feeding from a couple of ladies, it was so different the second time around and I probably would have weaned if I had gone with only my doctors advice. I am so happy I’ve made contact with other mum’s passionate about breastfeeding and it’s made me more confident and want to help others with bfing issues. It was also nice to see there were mums out there who agree with the way I parent and there was a name and communities for it.
I remember Emily burlingham..and the bitchiness surrounding her when I first joined and I stuck up for her and I actually had Amanda Passmore in my circle and thought she was a nice Mum oh dear *shame*
I was involved in the Rhonda multi personality’s threads and found it annoying and entertaining. But yeah, Debating Mums is a great community and I was getting pretty bored of the same crap on COM then I got invited to join here and it’s so great to have a place where there are always interesting topics debated by people with a brain.



Oh geez, Emily Burlingame...do not like her!!! She told me I was a bad mother on more than one occasion and psychologically scarring my child. Ms. Know it all!!!

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I think I joined COM about may of this year. It has been interesting to say the least I missed alot for awhile with not having a computer for awhile and when I got back on was shocked at how many people have joined the political debating group and was glad that the Debating group started. There are some very strong women on here and we may not all get along but in one conversation two women can be at each others throats and in another converstation the same women are agreeing. This is great because this is how life is, and there are some great women in this group. I hope there are many more great debates on here and that we can all become friends. I know I have met some great women on here and hope to meet more. This is my get away and my chance to talk to women around my age instead of talking to a 2 year old all day. :)

Mel - posted on 10/29/2009

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Emily was awesome I wish she was still around. such a to the point straight forward lady. Miss her lots. Was disapointed in the whole site for causing problems for Melissa just because of what Amanda has done. Amanda is still currently a member using another alias atm as the admin didnt block that account for some reason. I started using coms a long time ago and then didnt come back fro about 3 months when i did i posted on a topic about whether you would chose your husband or children first , I stated how I would chose my hubby first because he is my life partner and that this is also how Christians think and I am very close with alot of christians and used to attend church, bible study, and youth groups regulary. I got jumped on by Amanda and then had problems with her ever since. I never realised people could be so nasty and judgemental since i am from australia , especially other mums. I learnt alot on here too. The rice cereal in the bottle tip helped me alot since we dont use it in australia I never know about it, and I was kicking myself as I could have saved my daughter from 16 long months of tube feeding. At times we wished we had been from the States so our daughter got proper care, but thankfully with the help of some Austrian doctors we got our daughter feeding.



I was really surprised that people couldnt let things go and thought they knew everything and stated thier opinion as fact thats what gets me the most, when to start solids, CIO, breast feeding verse bottle feeding. Its a mothers choice what she does and there really is not right or wrong with these topics so its hard when you see people who think they know it all.



Ive made alot of good friendships on Coms, met lost of mothers from my area and we regularly meet up for play dates or coffee and have become quite close. Even though there are some horrible people on here, and unfortuntately I see them all stick together, its still worth sticking around. I hope more perth mums come and join as it took me a long time to even find people from australia. Now these are the ladies who help as sitters for my daughter I lived northern suburbs so to meet people from down this way was great

Charlie - posted on 10/29/2009

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HAHAHA Kylie i was talking about Jamie too i just didn't mention her name LOL !

Ez - posted on 10/29/2009

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LOL Kylie I remember you sticking up for Passmore!!! And the Rhonda thing was highly amusing if only for the fact that so many people fell for it. I called her out several times, and accused her of being Passmore, then had other women jumping all over me for being mean and defending her saying it wasn't her fault she couldn't spell (some of them quite passionately). Insanity.....

Kylie - posted on 10/29/2009

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Cool! great topic Jo…
I think I joined.. end of last year just after Jack was born. I was pretty much shocked at a lot of the things I read in the main page and Young Mums. First topic I got involved in was a debate about guns and then spanking and after that I was hooked. I remember I despised Jamie Massie for a while after she told me she was raising her boys to be real men and I was raising a sissy boy because I didn’t smack or cio.. LOL
I got a lot of help and support with breast feeding from a couple of ladies, it was so different the second time around and I probably would have weaned if I had gone with only my doctors advice. I am so happy I’ve made contact with other mum’s passionate about breastfeeding and it’s made me more confident and want to help others with bfing issues. It was also nice to see there were mums out there who agree with the way I parent and there was a name and communities for it.
I remember Emily burlingham..and the bitchiness surrounding her when I first joined and I stuck up for her and I actually had Amanda Passmore in my circle and thought she was a nice Mum oh dear *shame*
I was involved in the Rhonda multi personality’s threads and found it annoying and entertaining. But yeah, Debating Mums is a great community and I was getting pretty bored of the same crap on COM then I got invited to join here and it’s so great to have a place where there are always interesting topics debated by people with a brain.

Dana - posted on 10/29/2009

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I joined CoM sometime in the spring of this year. I was new to the whole FB thing and asked my friends some advice. One of my cousins gave me the link to CoM. I was amazed! All these people who had advice, then I realized I would be better off giving it than taking it.lol. I spent all my time in the July of '09 babies and the breastfeeding community. Then one day I accidently hit the Welcome Page option. I didn't even know about the TWP. I had been on for quite a while at that point! I happened to notice a thread with AP in it, accusing these women of a bunch of crap. I actually felt bad for her, for a second. Then Jo comes into the thread telling her off and that she should quit dragging all the crap into different communities. LMAO. I thought Jo, was soooo mean!! LOL. Then I saw all the other girls rush to Jo's defence saying how she was a great person and they'd never had any trouble with her. It was that thread that brought me to DM, for the excitement! That was my train wreck that I couldn't pull my eyes away from. Ironic, since this group turned out to be the best group ever! After joining DM's I haven't looked back to any of the other groups. Although I do wander over to the Welcome Page here and there.

Btw, I now think Jo rocks!!!

Charlie - posted on 10/29/2009

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I joined around February i think , the first thread i participated in was in Young mums about teen pregnancy and found myself in an almighty battle of wills with a mummier-than-though sort who to this day i find her attitude of do no wrong appalling and hypocritical but i think in saying that the initial debate with her is what brought me back to the site , i also found the site really helpful at times but felt a little lost and frustrated at the sheer stupidity i was reading everyday , i was shocked to see how judgmental some people ( more than i had realized ) were about almost everything i was not expecting it nor did i realize how relaxed and easy going Australia (at least the people i know ) were in comparison to other countries when it comes to Marriage , religion , politics , sex , friendships with the opposite sex .

I was so stoked to find debating mums this is my fave community and have made many fantastic friends as a result of joining .

I think i have better adjusted my nettiquette technique in regards to not getting completely worked up on certain issues in fact i steer clear of all circumcision and spanking threads now i cant bear to have conversations with people who don't care , wont listen or justify everything with false information .

I love COM and the good things it has done and the good people i have met ( you know who you are )

oh and the insane encounters with "fake" people or person as it were .*apcoughcough*

Sharon - posted on 10/29/2009

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I joined not that long ago while looking for advice for how to see DisneyLand properly.



I ventured over to the welcome once or twice and the insanity was overwhelming. I couldn't believe some of the crap I read.



Hey by the way... has anyone noticed that these stupid questions come in waves? 3 - 6 posts about diaper rash, add/adhd, 3 yr old issues... etc? Or is that just my tinfoil hat slipping...

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I joined COM about halfway through my pregnancy. I mostly stuck with the May 2009 group because it was nice to talk to other women who were going through the same stuff that I was. I did see the mess that took place in the young moms group. I found it pretty pathetic. I was not involved but I will admit I got a good laugh out of some of the stuff. I was very disappointed with the Breastfeeding Moms group because there were a lot of moms encouraging supplementing when it wasn't necessary. I'm happy to see all of the changes that are being made to that group and to COM. I am now a mod in that group too so it's nice to help. I'm new in the debating mums groups. It's great to have a small group that talks about all kinds of things, not just parenting topics.

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You did miss out on something special with the whole Rhonda debacle, Laura. Really, all of AP's personalities have been entertaining in their own way..disturbing, but entertaining.



The first time I read Sharon's posts I thought she was super mean too! Now, I agree with you Laura, she's awesome and I always love to read what she writes and how people respond to it!

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When I first started I thought that Sharon Grey was the meanest person ever!!! Now, of course, I think she is awesome and freakin Hi-larious! It really makes me chuckle a little to see the first time reactions to her "style of speech" on the welcome page ;) I expected holier than thou mothers...since I know a few in real life, but not the level of craziness or rudeness that I have encountered! I wish I had joined a few months earlier so that I could have witnessed "Rhonda Slipperysquirrel" ;P

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When I found COM (earlier this year), I was super excited as I had never been on another "mom's" forum. I quickly realized that it was not the open-minded place I'd hoped for. I was told that I was poisoning my kids with formula (despite the fact that they were way past formula when I joined), neglectful because I put my kids in their own cribs and so on and so on. I'd never experienced that type of judgement before because the people I knew personally that knew my kids didn't see those specifics. They saw my kids that were happy and healthy. I was close to leaving COM behind me when I stumbled into DM and DMG. I say stumbled because I'm not really sure how I found you, but I did, joined, and have since been hooked. I've found other groups that I enjoy but this group was the anchor. I've learned to not take the nasty comments too personally because no one else knows my kids like I do. I'm glad I found COM and I try to visit the Welcome page as well. I've leanred that if I'm not in the mood to argue, just to pass the hot topic threads. All in all, I've found more good than bad out of it.

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I have been a member for almost a year now. I do remember the very first post that I posted on was about smoking and pregnancy. I gave my opinion and got my ass chewed out. I have to admit, it didn't even cross my mind that I shouldn't have said what I did (against smoking while pregnant), I thought this was a forum where we were free to talk openly, especially when asked for opinions. From there, I got into a very heated argument with a woman over CIO. I was a bit shocked by the attitudes on here, and people's willingness to call you a bad mom when they don't even know you. Since then, I have found a couple of smaller groups that I post to (DM's!) and made some good friends that I enjoy having a conversation with. I have learned not to take things on here too seriously and let it ruin my day. Occasionally, I'll have a run in with someone that I just do not agree with, but mostly I brush it off. I laugh now on some of the threads on the Welcome page where women say "I just joined COM and I don't think it's worth my time, everyone is so hateful". I understand why they would think that, but you gotta hang in there and find your niche. The welcome page I don't think is a good representation of COM, even though it has gotten better with the new mods over there (thanks ladies!).



And a big THANK YOU to Sarah M. for creating DMs...it has by far been the best group I am a part of and I think all you ladies are pretty fab!

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Well, i found COM's to be quite helpful in the beginning. Then i started to see the bitchiness seeping in and i was genuinely shocked by it!
Until i came onto COM's i'd very rarely been judged so harshly for my parenting style, and at times i got very upset by some people's comments on certain subjects.

I guess it helped me to grow a thicker skin tho, i'm much more able to stand behind my choices and not think i'm a terrible mother because i may do things differently.

Then i started 'Debating Mum's' and i have to say, the whole experience became what i had wanted it to be in the beginning. I met some truly wonderful women who i'm very friendly with now. I found the support network which i thought the site was all about.

I think i've definitely grown from being apart of COM's, it's given me the courage of my convictions, it's helped me to let certain things slide off me, it's given me some good advice, some GREAT debates and most importantly, some AWESOME people to turn to when i need them!!
:)

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I joined COMs in March, when Milla was still a newborn. The very first thread I stumbled upon was about CIO, and I had no idea what it was because I'd only ever seen it referred to as 'controlled crying'. And it was UGLY lol. But it obviously didn't turn me off. I just muddled through the crap until Sarah invited me to DMs, which saved me from having any more altercations with the crazies for a while.

Young Mums really was a circus back then. Passmore and her bum-chum were mods so you can only imagine the chaos that ensued. I can understand women being passionate about their mothering in all the usual controversial topics (breast v bottle, CIO v cosleep, vaccination etc) but the insanity of Young Mums at that time was enough to give me a headache.

Since DM started it's been a much more pleasant experience, that's for sure, with only splatters of stupidity from Passmore and all her alter-egos (Rhonda Slipperysquirrel was my personal favourite). I have a pretty low bullshit-tolerance so I must admit there were times I thought my head was going to explode lol. Overall, though, I love COMs. The good far outweighs the bad as far as I'm concerned.

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Great question Jo! Well, before I joined and became active on COM, I participated in the discussion group which was part of another group on here, "Hey Facebook, Breastfeeding is not Obscene." While I believed in the message that the group was trying to send, the people on there were mostly crazy. I was struggling with my breastfeeding when I joined, and was hoping to get support, but that was never the case. I have never met such a bunch of judgmental, bitchy, holier-than-thou, sancti-mommies before in my life. At the time I was feeling vulnerable and every time I read stuff on there, I felt like I wasn't being a good enough mother to my daughter. I did horrible, terrible, cruel things to her like put her in a crib and a stroller, vaccinated her, and used diapers (all be it cloth). I was so "conventional" that I was "not letting my child be special". That last quote was actually said to me.



So... when I started on COM it was a breath of fresh air. Of course there were some crazy extremists on here, both uber-mama types and the opposite, but most moms are sensible, and fairly intelligent. I do remember how crazy things got a little while after I joined with the whole Amanda Passmore controversies. That was fun. I was so glad to have found Debating Mums and DMG, where intelligent women could talk about their kids and other things too. Because surprise surprise, moms think about things other than their children (I bet that would come as a shock to the moms on my other group). I must say that the part of me that enjoys watching a train wreck does miss all the spanking/breastfeeding threads on the main page. But lately they have been replaced with religion/vaccine threads, so I'm still being mildly entertained.



I've also found a couple groups on here with very like-minded mothers, where I can discuss my child-rearing approach and get tips and help without getting into a big fight. That's nice too. I imagine most moms can find something like that on here that suits their approach, and I think that is very positive.

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