Maybe Im Unamerican

Tawny - posted on 05/04/2011 ( 27 moms have responded )

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But I am so tired of hearing about Osama, Obama, Donald Trump and so on........ It is really sad that it has come to this for some people to lose friends over because they make a comment they believe in or do not believe in, I have read comments on FB that people have voiced there opinions and have lost friends over it. Why is it that we let something like this ruin a friendship or is it that friendship wasn' t really there. I haven't put anything on my FB becuase of this because I believe I would lose many friends, it is sad that we can't be free in what we want to say without someone coming back telling you that your an awful person for believing that way or because your a republican or democratic and you dont know anything because this person is so great or this person is an idiot well unfortunately we all have our own opinions and believe in different things. And well Im sure that I will get people saying well that is just they way it is. But I guess Im just sad about it or just my hormones will not get back to normal after having my last child which by the way is 7 months, so you wouild think that I would be normal again but Im not. So any way as I ramble along like and idiot..... So has anyone here lost friends or family members over your beliefs of what has happened this past week ?

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JuLeah - posted on 05/04/2011

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We think that the other guy has to be wrong for us to be right. We think there is actually a right or wrong to be.



We think the more people that agree with us, the more 'right' we are.



We think, if we are 'right' we are somehow safer in this world and we are willing to scream to be safe.



We think, if a person disagrees with us, it means that 1) they didn't understand so we must yell louder or 2) they are not listening so we must yell louder or 3) they are an unfeeling monster who hates America and apple pie. We will, of course, shout at such a person, even unfriend them if they don't mend their ways.



People have always been this way. Expect that each time there is a big event that brings up big feelings we will deal in our same mature fashion; we will scream at you till you agree.

JL - posted on 05/05/2011

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I am very political and Liberal. All those how know me know this and if they don't like it there is this wonderful thing where you can hide peoples statuses on your home feed. I've used that before rather than being petty and unfriending a friend because I don't agree with their views. That being said I would love for someone to point out to me where all this just giving Obama credit malarkey is happening. The quote going around makes an assumption that people are in masses giving only Obama credit for Osama Bin Laden. Where is this happening? As a military wife and a Liberal I have read only people giving our Commander in Chief, intelligence agencies and our troops credit for this. Everyone has acknowledged our troops first and foremost on every Liberal blog I am a member of. The circulating quote to me is disrespectful to our the office of the Presidency and it has one purpose only. To politicize things. My husband a US soldier finds the quote ridiculous and unbecoming and I agree with him.

Isobel - posted on 05/05/2011

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I always bring my kids to vote with me, and whenever it comes up on the news we discuss it, but I certainly don't push it on them...and I think it's good that Rupert and I don't always agree so they get a decent idea of how it works without being too worried about it.

I prefer them to be outside on their scooters as well :)

Charlie - posted on 05/04/2011

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the whole thing is frustrating the shit out of me , I now ban all Osama talk from my life .

Vera - posted on 05/05/2011

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They are making a big deal about a guy that has a comb-over - seriously? Oh and a birth cert - really ... I just flip or tune that crap out anymore unless it's really juicy stuff (ha ha ha)

Truth is I have my beliefs and others have theirs. I try to see their point, because mine opinions aren't always correct and some people have thoughts on things that I never thought of – doesn’t mean I agree just means it gives me a moment to think about what they are saying.

If the so-called people around me are going to "un-friend" me because of who I am they were never a friend anyway and good reddens because that was just one less piece of drama around me!! I don't care what others think of me, if I wear make up or not, If I straighten my hair or not, if I believe in God or not or if I am in the latest fashions what I care about is my family and living the right way so I am happy.

I do understand what you are saying about those people who get so worked up over their opinion to start downgrading others telling them they are idiots etc when in reality they are the idiots who can’t see the forest for the trees. Or they nit-pick a sentence or turn something around that someone said to try to use it against them – taking it completely out of the context the person meant it. How bout those gossipers … love those people!

No single person’s perspective on an argument is correct so why they can’t accept or understand another’s point is beyond me. Just because one thing works for one person doesn’t mean it is the right thing for everyone, every country, culture, child etc… I will never understand why people put them selves on a pedestal thinking they are the almighty in thinking when in reality they are ignorant to the fact that there is more to life than their thoughts and ideas.

Oh well… glad I’m not in the drama circle… and I have friends I can debate with that know to let things be as they are not make a huge deal out of nothing because in the end we all go to our families live as we want to no matter who said what... but with a little more knowledge from our debates.

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Dana - posted on 05/05/2011

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Joy, I've only seen it from people who attack Obama every chance they can - obviously, if they fall for that bs.

Alexis - posted on 05/05/2011

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I havent lost any family\friends but we have come to an agreement not to talk about it anymore with some since we are on opposites sides and don't want to fight over it. Our friendship\family is worth more than winning an argument that isnt going to change anything.

Dana - posted on 05/05/2011

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I post things on my own fb wall but, I've never commented on family members or friend's walls with whom I disagree politically. That's their place, I respect that. Although I have said something on my cousin's post that she c & p'ed that were lies about Obama cutting back military pay but, then I only posted a link to snopes and let her know it wasn't true.

I did however have my step-MIL post on one of my political links and attack me. She then went on a 3 day binge with her daughter, cyber bullying me until my husband had enough and told me to remove them. That turned into a big mess and we still don't talk. My husband talks to his father though, and for that I'm thankful.

Even though I have strong political opinions, I don't blindly follow my party and I give the benefit of the doubt to those in my opposition to act the same. Either way, I may call the candidates, idiots in the Republican party and some of their followers idiots, I don't brand them all as idiots. ;)

I've had no fallout on fb from this latest development but, I have seen that stupid C&P going around about how the President had nothing to do with this...the troops did it all and just last year he wanted to cut funding. So, yeah, I WANTED to scream from the roof tops that it's so far from the truth and pure ignorance but, I kept my mouth shut. ;)

JuLeah - posted on 05/05/2011

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My nine yr old worked the Obama Campaign with me and from a stroller, worked the campaign that came b4. Actually, if you are gonna knowck on doors and ask people to vote, it's a good idea with bring a cute baby with you.

Amber - posted on 05/05/2011

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Four sounds good to me. I'm just sick of only two! There is never a candidate that I fully support, ever.
And candidates also have to appease two different sides of the same party, so you never really know exactly what they are going to do. I mean, the GOP has to deal with the Tea Party....but a lot of them don't agree with them. If they don't, they have no chance of getting elected. The same with Dems, they have people who swing far out to the edge of the spectrum that need to be appeased too.

Rosie - posted on 05/05/2011

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sorry amanda i disagree! :) i have an 11 year old son, and he is busy doing things that kids should be doing, not paying attention to all the CRAP that goes on in washington. i'd rather my child or cousin be out playing with their friends instead of worrying about whether osama bim laden had a gun or if obama was really born in the united states.

Isobel - posted on 05/05/2011

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you gotta have four though, not three...cause what happened here was that half the people voted conservative and the other half were split between the liberals and the ndp...the left can never really win again now that the conservative side has joined forces.

Amanda - posted on 05/05/2011

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If I lose friends for my opinion then they werent good friends to start off with.

@Kati - You should be proud of your 12 year old cousin for having an interest in politics and world events, even if her views do not match yours. If only ALL 12 year olds thought about important things, instead of boys and make up. I am damn proud of my 13 year old daugther who is totally been into politics since she was around the age of 10, we dont see eye to eye on politics, but that is expected. But I sure as hell encourage her to educate herself on world events, and I say sorry to no one for my daugther having a mind of her own, even if it isnt fully informed yet.

Amber - posted on 05/05/2011

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I know. I really wish that we didn't only have two parties. I really fall in between on a lot of things. Some things I agree with Republicans on and some with Democrats, I'm never completely to one side.

Rep are free market-restricted people. Dems are free people-restricted market. I'm more free both :) lol I'm just frustrated with politics.

Lindsy - posted on 05/05/2011

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I thing the people parting in the streets was a bit much.It just shows everyone how much he scared us and gives him more credit than he actually deserved.

Sara - posted on 05/05/2011

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Yeah, me too Amber. I'm really interested to see who ends up being nominated on the GOP side. At this point, it's not looking real promising for them.

Amber - posted on 05/05/2011

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I'm pretty sure Palin all by herself adds more stupidity in one place....



I want to see actual candidates who are worth voting for on both sides.

Jackie - posted on 05/05/2011

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Although Trump running would be entertaining, we have to be careful because people may actually vote for stupid ass!

Sara - posted on 05/05/2011

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Dream Ticket: Donald Trump and Michelle Bachmann...that's a whole lotta stupid in one place! It would be AWESOME!

Kate CP - posted on 05/04/2011

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I so hope that Trump runs for the presidency in 2012...GOD that would be entertaining! ;)

Etheena - posted on 05/04/2011

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I post my views, and beliefs on my facebook page. If I lose friends over it, so be it. I will be sad to see them leave, but I will not, not post something for fear of offending someone. And no, your are not unAmerican...

Amber - posted on 05/04/2011

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I have had discussions about it, but haven't lost any friends.

I posted the Obama thing too. Not because I don't think that he deserves any credit; he is the Commander in Chief, credit where credit is due. But my loved ones are in Afghanistan and have been in Iraq, and it's sad that everybody is celebrating Obama's victory and not the solider's victory...I guess I didn't view it as anti-Obama when I posted, but I see how it can be viewed that way. I was just thinking of my friends and family members.

I'm pretty tolerant all around of people's views. I don't follow either party, so that makes it easier. I choose on an individual basis which one is the lesser of the two evils.

Rosie - posted on 05/04/2011

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i havn't lost any friends or family members. but i havn't posted anything other than the simple statement that osama was dead. however my TWELVE year old cousin, yes twelve (SMH) posted the drivel that's going around on FB, something to the efffect that obama didn't catch osama, an american soldier did.....yada and so on. it made me sad to see such a young person have such harsh views (she's more than once posted antiobama, antichrist, things, talking about how obama is so sad that his buddy osama is dead, etc. ) in the political arena. she shouldnt even be thinking about politics, she's twelve. IDK, i have one other friend who posted the same, and he's in afghanistan right now so he has his opinion. i think he's wrong, but what am i to do?

i do admit i am pretty passionate about politics, and how i feel about certain issues like gay rights and stuff. i don't understand how people can feel the way they feel about things, and if i knew i had a homophobe for a friend i would defriend them immediately. i don't need hateful people in my life.

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