Misquotations

Karla - posted on 09/20/2011 ( 24 moms have responded )

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"My problem with the internet is that any fool can share a quote without even verifying its source"

~Benjamin Franklin

Seriously though, what do you do if you discover a misquotations. I like to point it out because I don't want to see it continued and I assume other people would like to know the facts as well. Several times I've been condemned for caring enough, or taking the time to "snope" a quoted.

Any thoughts about this.

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Stifler's - posted on 09/20/2011

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Nearly ALL of those political Facebook repost things are bullshit. Especially the one about how the national anthem is being banned because it's "offensive" and other stuff about Muslims.

Karla - posted on 09/21/2011

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From Sherri "See I the only time I would ever see someone post a quote is on FB and under that circumstance I just don't care."



I disagree with the premise of that statement, and here’s why: Education is everything that happens in your day, and it's everything that happens in your life, it is not exclusive to a classroom.



The Internet and FB provide a mode of sharing information at the speed of light (X wpm, or time to cut-n-paste) therefore misinformation and misquotes can and will be passed on at breakneck speeds. Pretty soon thousands of people believe some crazy falsehood that could and should have been stopped in its tracks. That is why I feel it’s my duty for the sake of real truth and knowledge to be the one that stops it in its tracks.



As I said earlier, I’m not rude about it. I just say, “Hey, you probably want to know that didn’t check-out. Look at this snopes link.” That’s it.



IMO “It takes a village” is about more than raising children, it’s about each of us taking on the responsibility of making our society better… even if it’s correcting one bit of misinformation.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 09/21/2011

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Very true Johnny. We actually have a group in Canada about concerned producers or something to that effect. One of their commercials airs on children's stations about a House Hippo and it goes into detail about this house hippo. I've watched the commercial a few times with my 7 year old present, she's looked at me and said (thank God) do people really believe things like that? Of course this is the same child who was talked into licking a bar of soap because it said 'oatmeal' on the package.



The US has people who claim that Canada fought with us in Vietnam- so I don't doubt there are some very confused people in this world.

JL - posted on 09/20/2011

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I just went on a rant yesterday about copying and pasting on FB after going to three different FB pages one of them a political page to point out a copy and paste that was circulating around FB that was incorrect. I posted the snopes link debunking the copy and paste on every page that had it and the political page took down the thread after I pointed out the lack of legitimacy. I don't understand why is it so hard for people to research before they copy and paste crap people have on their wall. I hate that shit. Stupid crap spreads around and everyone thinks because it's on everyone else's wall then of course it has to be true. Technology and social websites are awesome but at the same time I swear it's lowering IQ's world wide. Every time I see a copy and paste post as well as a misquote I just know comprehension skills across the world are falling!!!!!!!!! BEWARE WHAT YOU READ!!!!!!!!

JL - posted on 09/21/2011

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As someone who is an educator I find it bothersome and I do care especially when I have had high school and college students ask me if the United States won the American Revolution. Anti-intellectualism is not something to just cast aside without care. I have always believed that ignorance is not bliss....it is a burden on the rest of us.

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Firebird - posted on 09/21/2011

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lol Meggy! I remember the House Hippo commercials! I so wanted one of those when I was a kid! LOL Of course I knew they weren't real... but still. *sigh*

I don't usually correct misquotes if they're just a few 'unimportant' words off. But if it's credited to the wrong person, or so twisted that it states the opposite of what the original quote says, I correct.

Stifler's - posted on 09/21/2011

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I don't bother to correct people but I have the urge to block and delete them sometimes.

Johnny - posted on 09/21/2011

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If none of your opinions or beliefs are even slightly supported by the facts, then you must either choose to decide the facts are wrong or ignore them altogether. I think most people chose option B because it causes slightly less cognitive dissonance.

Karla - posted on 09/21/2011

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You would hope Karla, but lately, I'm pretty sure that many people's grasp of history is not strong enough for them to figure it out.

Obviously you are right Johnny, sad but true. My daughter just started her first teaching position with inner city 7th and 8th graders, Geography and US History. The lack of knowledge is just sad.
For my part, I just find factual information important; and I'm always taken aback when others do not.

Johnny - posted on 09/21/2011

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You would hope Karla, but lately, I'm pretty sure that many people's grasp of history is not strong enough for them to figure it out.

Karla - posted on 09/21/2011

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Brittany,

That's all fine and good BUT I hope everyone would know this Benjamin Franklin "quote" is a joke!



When I saw that one I just commented, "LOL"

Brittany - posted on 09/21/2011

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Well one thing is for sure we don't need another Sarah Palin running around!

"My problem with the internet is that any fool can share a quote without even verifying its source"

~Benjamin Franklin

If something like the above happens I usually say "Hey, I did not know they had the internet back then...learn something new everyday." In which case said person will either say some not nice things or they will say "Oh gosh, my bad, it was so and so who said that."

That give you the chance to point it out and for them to correct the mistake.

Karla - posted on 09/21/2011

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I like the way Tara put it, "I like sleuthing things." I really do, I like to research things and the internet makes it easy. There are those web sites that give us absolutely no excuse to misquote anybody. So, yeah, I care.

I love the Ben Franklin quote here and put it on my status from time to time just to make a point.

For the record, I was defensive about caring enough to research (all of 2 minutes) and posting my findings, but not oversensitive about it. The conversation just made me question why anyone would be offended by facts, but then again I see that a lot too.

Don't let facts get in the way of your "truth."

Jaime - posted on 09/21/2011

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I correct people. And I am not offended if someone corrects me. When I attempt to type a quote or something from memory I usually include a disclaimer about not being 100% sure on my phrasing. And the quote in the OP is pretty funny and I believe it was started by someone in a similar mind-set to you Karla...someone that wanted to point out how easily we fall for information at first sight. The quote is well written and the by line is believable--albeit false.

Tara - posted on 09/21/2011

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Yep I actually like sleuthing things. I don't have a problem telling someone they have misquoted someone or that they have got the quote all wrong etc. if they get offended, oh well, seriously I don't worry too much about offending people on the internet.

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I guess my reply would have been Karla, "I'm sorry. I didn't know there were people who liked living with false information. I'll remember next time so as not to offend people."

(almost verbatim to what I say when given similar nonsense replies)

Karla - posted on 09/20/2011

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Here’s the misquotation that prompted me to put the OP here:



“You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away men’s initiative and independence.

You cannot help men permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.”

A. Lincoln



So I thought to myself, If Abe Lincoln believed this he wouldn’t have tried to take away Plantation Owner’s “property” (slaves), so I looked it up. Sure enough it was written in 1916 by Rev. William Boetcker, and it even misquotes him. Mind you 1916 was just a decade before the Stock Market Crashed… so whatever on the content.



So the original poster was nice about my link to snopes.com and message “Sorry this doesn’t check out”. But a friend of his says, “does it have to?? i think they are great words thanks for posting them :)) and nice of you not to take credit :)))” and “who cares who wrote it ... some people have nothing better to do then snope everything its awesome...”



So I’m asking myself, Who wants to remain ignorant???



I was so put off by those responses. I basically just said – "no offence, but I care." I know it doesn’t help for me to become defensive, and my friend wasn’t offended or defensive in the least.



Do you ever get those kinds of responses when you point out misinformation?

What do you think about people who think it’s OK to post misquotes?

Do you have any theories about why these people think nothing of misquotes and are even defensive when you give the correct information?

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 09/20/2011

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But those National Enquirer stories about Bat Boy backing Al Gore. Those were all true :P

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I always correct people. I just treat people as I want to be treated. If I'm wrong, I want to know I am.

Katherine - posted on 09/20/2011

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LOL, I'm kind of anal too. I always google things and like to be sure I'm "right" before I spout off at the mouth.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 09/20/2011

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I had to double take the OP because with everything except the 'internet' it does sound Ben Franklin-esq.

But yeah I do ask a person to point out where they get their facts from.

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