Nanny beats 11 month old

Meghan - posted on 09/04/2010 ( 37 moms have responded )

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VERY upsetting ladies
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=734...

I heard about this on Nancy Grace tonite but could't find the link from her show. I guess the nanny is saying that she doesn't remember doing this...she was upset with the parents and she had a headache and took it out on the boy. This upsets me so much. We all have had a headache and been pissed off at someone...my extent is maybe snapping at my son. This is unacceptable (obviously) and do you ladies think that this "I don't remember, this isn't my character" defense is going to fly?

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Sarah - posted on 09/05/2010

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******Mod Warning******

Well, not really a warning, just a little reminder to think carefully before we type as things can be misinterpreted.

Also, Christina has evidently left the conversation (and the community) so we can move on now back to the OP.

Thanks......debate away ladies!! :)

Meghan - posted on 09/04/2010

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I was in tears watching it last nite...
I have said it before and I will say it again...if I have to put a nanny cam in, your fired...PERIOD! BUT I do understand that some kids do hurt themselves. J always had a bruise on him-never a black eye but always a bruise.

Jessica - posted on 09/04/2010

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Absolutely not, at the end of that video it says the father installed the nanny cam after noticing his son had a black eye. It is obviously not the first time she did it and she needs to rot in jail. This has made me so fucking angry! How can ANYONE even think of harming a child? I don't understand it!

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Kimberly - posted on 09/10/2010

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You know, I'd like to say that Motherhood has calmed me but, this would bring out the freakin grizzly in me. I am new on the block and am trying to adhere to the language rule so let's just say that I'd have to hide her body afterwards. I'd have to. I would unzip my skin and Satan would emerge and unspeakable things would take place.

Angela - posted on 09/06/2010

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This is the most unbearable thing I have ever watched. I feel disgusted! She should be put away for a very long time. It is SICK! How could a human being do such a horrendous thing and think she could get away with it. She only wants to forget... there is no way this was a moment of "I don't remember"!!!

When convicted she should be put on the list with the people who sexually assault children so that if she ever gets out people know to keep their children away from this SICK SICK WOMAN!

Charlie - posted on 09/05/2010

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Parents have amazing instincts , usually a black eye can be explained easily but when a parent gets an overwhelming feeling that something is wrong , that it doesnt add up to the extent that they think they need a nanny cam then i say TRUST your first instincts , get rid of the nanny .

I dont think saying she didnt remember is going to fly in court especially since its not the first occasion .

Tana - posted on 09/05/2010

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That is absolutely DISGUSTING! It better not fly.. You cant do something like that and get away with it, at least in my opinion. It seems pretty convenient that she "doesnt remember doing it" even though she obviously kept going back to hit him and throw him around more. It is absolutely horrifying that somebody could be so heartless to keep coming back to abuse an innocent little infant.. Honestly though, I would probably be the one that ended up going to jail if I saw that being done to my child.

On a side note, thank goodness that we have the technology to set up nanny cams to catch these evil people doing this shit and are able to provide video evidence.

Stifler's - posted on 09/05/2010

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I wouldn't install a nanny cam just over a black eye. People are getting a bit crazy emotional here, kids fall and smack themselves in the head deliberately at 11 months and fall down stairs etc. Well they did in my day before kids were wrapped in cotton wool. I'd ask the nanny what had happened though and if she sounded sus then maybe.

Jessica - posted on 09/04/2010

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It is clear that when people have differing opinions on this board that others become abusive and insulting. Thanks for confirming that statement as true. It is clear that in the absence of fact and reasonable arguments, people will result to name-calling and insults.

Hold on... Like you said, you are entitled to an opinion. And so is she. She is not insulting. She is telling your her opinion of your view, not you.

Grace - posted on 09/04/2010

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A headache is never an excuse to abuse a child, especially if you are entrusted with the poor soul. This is crazy!!! I had a nanny a few years ago who appeared to be so nice and was also nice to my 4 year old daughter back then. I only discovered that she used to slap my daughter and hit her and emotionally blackmail her not to tell me. I figured it out she decided to go back home to her country, and we threw a big farewell party and hired a new nanny to take over. Her handover to the nanny was: If the kid troubles you, just slap her!!! The new nanny was kind enough to tell me, however, afetr she left. If I see this woman ever again, I will walk to her and slap her right in front of every one....

Jodi - posted on 09/04/2010

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**sigh** I know.

@ Christina, I think you have been way to sensitive. kate wasn't insulting you, she was expressing her opinion, and it wasn't even directed at YOU. Full stop. Nothing else in it.

Meghan - posted on 09/04/2010

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LOL nope Jodi I think there was just the "over the line" comment that Kate made. Shame on you Kate :P

Jodi - posted on 09/04/2010

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WTF??? Did a whole heap of nasty judgemental posts that I missed get deleted or something, because, well, WTF???

Kate CP - posted on 09/04/2010

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"Thank you Kate, for insulting me because I hold parents responsible for caring appropriately for their children's well-being..."

*blink* Wait...what? Is this the twilight zone? Did I step into a 4th dimension? What the hell?!

o.O

Erin - posted on 09/04/2010

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The sad thing is, is she has been a caregiver her whole life. I watched the Nancy Grace show last night and that's what was said. So who knows how many children were abused:(

Christina - posted on 09/04/2010

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Thank you Kate, for insulting me because I hold parents responsible for caring appropriately for their children's well-being.



Parents are held responsible when they continually subject their children to abusive caretakers, so it is not unusual to state that parents are responsible for providing a safe environment for their children. For example, recently a mother who had knowledge that a step-parent was abusing her child was found guilty of child abuse and neglect. It is the same situation. Parents are negligent and abusive when they don't protect their children. It is my opinion and I'm entitled to one. Please refrain from insulting me.



It is clear that when people have differing opinions on this board that others become abusive and insulting. Thanks for confirming that statement as true. It is clear that in the absence of fact and reasonable arguments, people will result to name-calling and insults.



Goodbye, ladies. Have fun beating up on each other.

Dana - posted on 09/04/2010

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I agree, Kate. It's easy to pass judgment when your seeing it from "your" point of view and not "theirs". From the other interview I mentioned, these were good parents.

Kate CP - posted on 09/04/2010

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You know what, kids get bumps and bruises all the time. If I had trusted my nanny enough and asked her to explain the bruise and she said something like "Oh, he was trying to cruise from the couch to the chair and missed the table and just bopped his eye on the corner" I might believe her. I have a very active 4 year old. When she was nearly 2 she was crawling on a chair and up onto my marble vanity in the bathroom. I happened to be on the toilet with severe stomach issues (thank you gallbladder), told her repeatedly not to climb up there...and she fell. She fell and knocked out her front tooth. I drove her to the hospital, they checked her out and she was okay. Accidents DO happen and sometimes marks are left behind. Saying this was the parents' fault is sick and just wrong. These parents already feel guilty enough about choosing the wrong nanny. I know every day I look at my beautiful little girl and feel a pang of guilt that I wasn't RIGHT THERE to catch her or have her tied to the chair or something. Don't blame the parents for a crime THEY didn't commit.

C. - posted on 09/04/2010

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See, that's like my son. I always bruised VERY easily, and unfortunately my son has inherited that. He doesn't fall as often as he used to b/c he's finally learned a lot of his lessons from climbing on things before. But b/c my son bruises easily, I would put a nanny cam in just to be sure it was HIM FALLING and not a babysitter tossing him around. Although, he's so strong he could probably toss her around just as good if that happened, but still.

A black eye, that's another thing. I do think the parents should have fired her for that. But then again, maybe she had a very compelling story that went along with it and they were only a little suspicious of her.

C. - posted on 09/04/2010

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I've heard about that a lot.. One reason when I do end up trusting someone enough to watch my baby, I WILL be getting a nanny cam.



I can't believe someone would actually do that! She was tossing him around like a rag doll, threw a BALL at the baby's HEAD and then started beating the crap out of him! ELEVEN MONTHS OLD!!!!! What the hell is wrong with people?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?



And whether or not that is her defense, it SHOULDN'T fly b/c they have proof of who did it. She's probably going to get an insanity plea, which is being WAY overused anymore. That woman disgusts me.

Christina - posted on 09/04/2010

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I'm sorry, Dana, but I'm the parent of a very active 4 year old son. He's fallen dozens of times, but never had a black eye. Additionally, in the video, there are other types of abuse that are indicative of having a frightened child, such as spanking, dragging the child around by the arms, and seeing the child crawl away from the caretaker and being firmly put back into place.

A parent should know their children and pick up on a child's frightened behavior when returning home. I realize that not everyone acutely is aware of the signs of child abuse, but it's a parent's responsibility to protect their children. I think it's selfish to take chances, even if you are wrong, you should err on the side of caution with children.

Lest we forget nannies who shake children to death?

Installing a nanny cam when you think something MAY be going wrong is setting yourself up to acknowledge that you may discover exactly what you thought was going on.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

Dana - posted on 09/04/2010

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I hope they throw everything they can at that lady.



Christina, I don't think the parents did anything wrong. If you trusted someone with your kid, you wouldn't think they would be capable of doing that. Plenty of kids get hurt at 11 months most kids are cruising along furniture at that age, if not taking steps by themselves. I've seen this story before and there was an interview or something with the father. These people aren't ignorant people and they were unsure. I think they said they thought something was fishy with the black eye story but, never thought they'd find what they did on the tape.

Christina - posted on 09/04/2010

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Umm, I am sorry, but WTF was the parent doing JUST installing a nanny cam when he saw his son with a black eye? If I found my 11 month old son with a black eye when I came home from work (this baby doesn't appear to walk) with no reasonable explanation - the first thing I would do is get rid of the babysitter. FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILD!!! I would never have taken a chance with the health of my child. What if that woman had beaten the heck out of that baby and caused permanent damage?

I think the parents need to be called to task also. They knew something was wrong and did nothing about getting that woman away from that baby.

Meghan - posted on 09/04/2010

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That is just sick. I have a 10 month old, oh wow, if I caught anyone doing that to my child, I don't know if I could stop beating her. What a sick bitch.

Rosie - posted on 09/04/2010

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i started crying watching that.. how evil do you have to be to go back time and time again and just beat a poor beautiful baby like that? headache my ass. if that was my kid the bitch would be begging for just a headache!!

Tara - posted on 09/04/2010

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evil bitch. Throw her in with the biggest, baddest dykes (ideally the ones who have/had kids) on the cell block, and let them watch the clip.
Could you imagine being the parents, home from work, put the baby to bed, watch what the nanny did today?!! OMFG. could you imagine the rage?
Forgets my ass. She's an anger/control freak imo.

Kate CP - posted on 09/04/2010

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She better fuckin' NOT get away with it. Thankfully, child abusers aren't exactly favored in jail. When the rest of the inmates find out what she's in for...she's gonna get her ass BEAT; maybe even shanked. Personally, I'd be okay with that.

Tah - posted on 09/04/2010

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there would have been more to the headline.."nanny in intensive care after she is caught beating 11 month old....mom in custody and remembers everything...good times says mom..good times"...



i promise you, and i know i have come a long way from things i used to do..but if that was my baby and i saw that video i can promise you....without a shadow of a doubt that i would warm her ass up, and then i would call the cops..and that is if i could beat anyone else from my family over there. when the cops arrived i would have my foot in her neck, i would spend the night in jail, get my hair braided on the cell block from big martha and o it all happily and if they were smart they would put her in protective custody. i mean she threw the ball at the baby's head and then just wailed on him with no regard or hesitation...over and over again..i am in shock....



this is far from okay......but at least she didnt bite him...smh...

Petra - posted on 09/04/2010

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Of course its not going to fly - the boy's father had the cam installed after they found him with a black eye. She may have had a slim chance if it was just one occurrence, but two? Fuck no. I would nail her ass to the wall - this woman is tossing around and beating an 11-month old, there is NO defence for that.

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She wont get away with this..its obviously not momentary loss..sick bitch if you excuse my language.One thing i dont tolerate is abuse to children in any form.It boils my blood.

Ez - posted on 09/04/2010

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I've seen that video before. What a load of shit! This wasn't a momentary loss of control. It went on for a long time and she kept going back to hurt him more.

Jodi - posted on 09/04/2010

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Not unless it is shown that the headache was caused by a tumour on the brain and THAT is also what caused her to forget......

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