Not believing in sin?

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I've read on the masturbation post several people that don't believe in sin and that's not making any sense to me.

I suppose it makes perfect sense in the use of the term as 'anything that seperates us from God' since many people don't believe in God, but what about it being used to define things that are wrong..... like murder, rape, etc..... Those are most certainly sins... or is it just that you don't CALL them sins?

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~Jennifer - posted on 02/01/2011

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I call things like murder and rape "crimes"

"Sin" just isn't a word in my vocabulary.

~Jennifer - posted on 02/01/2011

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I never said I don't believe in a god, gods or aspects of god(s)......I just don't believe in a specific god..

I just don't believe any one religion is 'right' and that everyone else is 'wrong'.

=)



...that probably makes no sense at all, but it's the best I can do without taking up about 3 pages to explain.

If I can come up with a condensed version, I'll post it.

JuLeah - posted on 02/02/2011

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The Hebrew word Chata’ah means ‘to miss’ or ‘to miss the mark’. In the our Bible or Torah (What Christians’ call the Old Testament) the word we use is chata’ah
Christian translated this word to 'sin' and with that comes all the negative connotations associated.
Sin is about shame and guilt. A person can be sinful and bad.
To miss the mark means you need to try again, practice, learn, and do better. What you did was not correct, but you are not a bad person. Always, you are a child of God, valued, loved, and cherished.
So, no, I don’t believe in sin. It is fine to feel bad about what you did, not it is not fine to feel bad about who you are.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 02/02/2011

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I do believe there is a God/Higher Power, but I no longer perceive him to be portrayed as he is in the Christian Bible.

So I don’t believe in Sin, but I believe in Wright and wrong, and values/morels…

Jackie - posted on 02/02/2011

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People don't need a God to know that crimes against humaninty is immoral or wrong. Unless you're a total sociopath, you know right from wrong with out the fear of being damned to Hell for enternity. Most people have a conscience.



For me, I guess I don't understand the concept of being judged by somebody that I would only ever (if ever) meet when I'm already dead.



I AM my own worst critic.

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if we go by the bible, jesus died for our sins so we are no longer sinners, we are forgiven...

I don't believe in sin. Harm to another person is wrong, thats the only law i follow. I do say sin sometimes, thats what you get when you live with super catholics. I don't like the word though, i felt it was just a way to make the catholics at my church feel guilty and comply.

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That is where you and I are similar and different, Deanna. I fully agree that no one is w/out sin, but I also believe that sin is sin.... no one is exempt from that, myself included.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to compare sins or anything. Just asking for clarification of why some people don't consider anything a 'sin' and I've received that answer.

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"..... but what about it being used to define things that are wrong..... like murder, rape, etc..... Those are most certainly sins... or is it just that you don't CALL them sins?"

It's just means that I don't call them sins. They're wrong or immoral, crimes.....whatever, but by not being religious, the word 'sin' is just not in my vocab.

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Sin is a religious word that we DO have in our vocabulary. However, rape, murder, etc. would be considered a sin, fine, however, I also consider it a crime. I personally would have no problem committing "murder" by killing murderers, rapist, & pedophiles. (people of that nature) Besides that if everybody lived by the bible then we would all be committing sin. Everyone. Be it from our single moms, gays, lesbians, divorces, gluttony, or even coveting what others have. I don't believe anyone is without "sin". What I do consider is the nature and severity of the "sin". Masturbation is extremely mild in comparison to something like rape, murder, etc.

Lady Heather - posted on 02/02/2011

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I guess I wouldn't use the word sin. It's not part of my vocab being a non-churchgoer. I think sin sort of implies there could be some punishment in the afterlife. If you don't believe in that, you don't believe in sin as others have said.

Krista - posted on 02/02/2011

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Like Monique said, I may not believe in the concept of sin, but I do have my own fairly strong views about right and wrong. Not that I'm Wiccan, but my moral code is pretty similar to theirs: "Harming none, do what thou will." In other words, as long as you're not hurting anybody (and that includes yourself), then do what makes you happy.

Krista - posted on 02/02/2011

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Like the others, I view "sin" as an exclusively religious concept. The reason I don't believe in it is because a) i'm not religious and b) a lot of the things that religion defines as "sin" are things that really don't hurt anybody -- not even the "sinner".

For things that DO harm another human being, I tend to not really name the act so much, but have no problem referring to someone as a murderer, or a rapist, or just an all-around horrible human being.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 02/02/2011

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Im just to damn analytical and questioning/wondering…..



I no longer except things for what they are…being told by man…..I need to know WHY? HOW? as often as I can

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If a person doesn't believe in god, it makes sense to not believe in sin.

Edit: Sorry, that was totally redundant, after actually reading the other posts lol I'm still working on my first cup of coffee so.....

Jenni - posted on 02/02/2011

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"Sin has always been a term most usually used in a religious context, and today describes any lack of conformity to the will of God; especially, any willful disregard for the norms revealed by God is a sin. The word is from the old English synn, presumed to be from Germanic *sun(d)jō[1] (http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE133.h...) (lit: "it is true"). It is recorded in use as early as the 9th century. The most common formal definition is an offense against religious or moral law. Colloquially, a sin is any thought, word, or act considered faulty, shameful, harmful to oneself or to others, or which alienates self from others and especially from God, can be called a sin. Through sin, guilt is incurred; and according to guilt, punishment is deserved. Compare Impiety and Crime. This is a Western Christian interpretation of sin, and not necessarily universal to all Christianity."
So generally the term "sin" is used in a religious context but is less commonly used when referring to moral values. So although non-religious individuals could refer to wrong doings as "sin" they may be giving the impression that they are using a religious context.

Tracey - posted on 02/02/2011

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I don't believe in sin but I believe that anything that causes another person harm is wrong.

Minnie - posted on 02/02/2011

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Yes, like everyone else has said- 'sin' is something that people do that separates them from God. If one doesn't believe in God why would they believe in sin? They still have a sense of right and wrong- injustice done to other humans or being kind.



We all have things, Teresa, that are so intrinsic to who we are- and it boggles our minds when others don't believe the same way :). Coming from my background and experience from Christianity, although I still believe in God, I can definitely understand where other people are coming from regarding their dis-belief in God.

Isobel - posted on 02/02/2011

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I wouldn't say that I don't believe in A god or Some gods...I just don't think anybody's got it right just yet.

I think Jenn and Jenny covered murder and rape for me...terrible crimes against humanity.

Tara - posted on 02/02/2011

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They are not sins to me because the word sin is associated with god and I don't believe in god. When someone murders someone or commits another crime, they are called crimes. When someone cheats on someone they are a cheater. When someone lies they are a liar.
etc. etc.

Rosie - posted on 02/02/2011

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since i don't believe there is a god, i don't believe that someone who commits murder is disobeying god, which is called a sin. i believe they are disobeying the law, which is called crime. :)

Nicole - posted on 02/01/2011

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I believe in sin, and I believe in crime. I see them as two separate, though overlapping things.

Charlie - posted on 02/01/2011

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I believe in good and bad and the shades of grey in between as for the word "sin" I think of it as a biblical term and since I am not religious it isn't a term I really use .

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Ah.... ok. I guess that makes sense. And I guess it's still hard for me to grasp people that don't believe in God. I'm trying though. ;)

Johnny - posted on 02/01/2011

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Exactly what Jenn & Jenny said.

Murder, rape, etc. I consider to be crimes against humanity. You don't need god to clarify what is right and wrong. I do not believe in the idea of "sin" at all.

Jenny - posted on 02/01/2011

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It's the god part. Of course there are things that we all feel are wrong such as murder or rape. They are wrong without any religious overtones at all.

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