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Kate CP - posted on 11/10/2010 ( 95 moms have responded )

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Cereal in baby bottles.

Yes or no?
If yes, why?

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Charlie - posted on 11/11/2010

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cereal should not be given in a bottle , no food should be given in a bottle , if your baby is not developmentally ready to take food from a spoon they are not ready for food i just cannot fatham how people dont GET that , forcing a baby to sleep through the night by filling their stomachs with rice cereal is depriving them of what they need nutritionally through breastmilk or formula .

Babies wake for a reason , because they still need to be fed , they still need the extra nutrition for this part of their life where they are rapidly growing .

Stifler's - posted on 11/11/2010

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There are other communities for support and ego stroking on here.

Amanda - posted on 11/11/2010

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Just thinking about it some more..... I'm all about trusting the doc but..... I have to say I would definately be questioning him when it comes to cereal in the bottle due to baby being a Preemie..... if baby is a Preemie, then you would think his or her digestive system would be more sensitive so cereal in the bottle would do more harm than good....... I'm just not seeing where cereal in the bottle would be any good for a Preemie.....Serena, I'm sorry but I would definitely be questioning his reasoning

Minnie - posted on 11/11/2010

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I trust what my doctor says with a medical degree than someone who knows how to work her google in her taskbar....



Slightly off-topic but it may be helpful to know that the average doctor only holds about four hours infant nutrition education- and that is usually funded by formula and baby food companies. Doctors are trained to diagnose and treat illness. I'm not sure exactly why you think that just because a doctor holds a medical degree that he or she somehow holds an upper hand on seeking out and reading peer-reviewed research?



Yes, yes, everyone knows my opinion of many doctors. :P

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So, I haven't read the other 88 comments but I'm going to comment anyhow....

ABSOLUTELY NOT! Cereal is unecessary and has the potential to be dangerous.

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Kate CP - posted on 11/14/2010

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Oh, now that's just damned confusing. Two Dana's and they both have the same Avatar. :/

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@Emma - Your example is a great one for what I meant. The same is true for colic. Everyone seems to have a treatment for colic (even though no one really knows what it is) and I'm sure the vast majority are bull. I do tend to trust my doctors however I have noticed that whenever I've gone in, she has looked most of it up on her computer! Though I guess that means she's telling me current information and not what she was taught how many years ago in medical school. I guess you just have to do what Nikki said, get opinions, do research and then do what you feel is right. There are so many variables (many unseen) with babies, its so hard to pinpoint the exact cause of things.

Rebecca - posted on 11/14/2010

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I know first hand that pediatrician's don't know what they're talking about. I saw this doctor about my thrush infection because my daughter had a horrible rash on her bottom as well. Very blistery and red and bloody. The doctor swore up and down that it wasn't a yeast rash, but an allergy rash, so she told me to use Corona cream on it. I did, for two weeks, and saw no results. I switched her formula and started using the antifungal cream that they gave me for my nipples on her bottom and it cleared in two days. It was a mixture of the two. And Emma, I hate it when other people tell me what's best for my daughter, i.e, "she's so and so in age now, she should be doing this. you need to do that". They have no idea how saydi is developmentally so how can they know what's best for her?

Bonnie - posted on 11/14/2010

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Pediatricians don't always know what they are talking about. According to my parents, when I was a baby, I was always starving, formula and nothing else was just not cutting it for me. My parents wanted to introduce cereal to me at around 4 months and my pediatrician at the time said, "oh no, she doesn't need it. Wait another few months!" I think that is plain ridiculous. If a child is showing pure signs of hunger no matter how much formula they get, where do you get off saying that? So parents literally said, "screw you" and gave it to me anyways.

Stifler's - posted on 11/14/2010

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That's a good point Rebecca, I haven't though of it like that before. Although I did notice that Logan's food came out almost the same way it went in before he turned 7 months and he still spewed orange pumpkin and rice cereal up even though my MIL and other people insisted that giving him solids would stop the reflux.

Rebecca - posted on 11/14/2010

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Hmmm.. I can see that concept. I just think that if a baby's belly can't hardly handle something so fine as breast milk or formula, then it's not nearly ready for anything heavier.

Ez - posted on 11/14/2010

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Rebecca, the theory is that the cereal is heavier in their belly so harder for them to spontaneously regurgitate. Not that I'm advocating for that as a treatment! Just sayin'

Rebecca - posted on 11/14/2010

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My daughter has GE Reflux and nothing seems to help. I'm limited in the kind of formula she can eat because of her various allergies, but the most progress i've seen is just keeping her up right and constantly burping her. I can't possibly see how rice cereal could help. I'm not about to risk her choking on it.

Ez - posted on 11/14/2010

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It is my understanding that, like colic, babies will grow out of reflux sometime in their first year.

Stifler's - posted on 11/14/2010

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I think a lot of the time kids grow out of things and parents try everything and yes I think they think the last thing they tried works. I had a kid with reflux and I tried all kinds of formulas including the thickened one (didn't work) and the last one was lactose free at 8 months and then he stopped spewing. Others had told me a lot of babies just grow out of it at 8 months. I assumed he was lactose intolerant until my mum told me she'd been making porridge with normal milk and he'd been eating it while we were away. So I changed him back to normal milk and he's exactly the same so I guess he really just grew out of it.

Nikki - posted on 11/14/2010

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I agree Anika, for me, if I am unsure about something to do with my child; especially medical , which is not often at all, I like to hear lots of different opinions from different people, research a little then make an educated decision. But I am just anal, just me!

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I agree that you can't always trust a doctor but you can't always trust recommendations from other parents either. Lots of parents try a hundred different things and then think the last thing must have been what worked when more than likely it was just coincidence.

Stifler's - posted on 11/14/2010

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I agree, get over it. The waking during the night doesn't last forever.

Nikki - posted on 11/14/2010

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Regarding the cereal in a bottle for reflux purposes.. If I recall correctly from when my daughter had reflux, there were other method's to deal with this, I was breast feeding at the time and you can't really pop a spoon of cereal in your boob!

I don't understand why mother's trust doctor's when it comes to their babies nutrition, most doctor's do not have up to date training on current nutritional trends. Doctor's diagnose and treat medical condition's. I would be interested to hear a dietician's take on cereal in a bottle.

Regarding the "they will sleep through the night" well, although I don't really care what other mums do, I really think this is so dam selfish, why have a baby if you can't deal with them waking throughout the night, being a mum is about putting the best interests of your child before your own.

Rebecca - posted on 11/14/2010

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and @ Serena... why not just let your pediatricians raise your kid? other mother's have more hands-on experience.

Rebecca - posted on 11/14/2010

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No no no no no no no. Why risk something you're baby can choke on??? I mean hell, would you hand them a pork chop and say "here hun, eat up, you'll sleep longer!".... be patient with your child, be in tune with what they need, and no one gets hurt.

Charlie - posted on 11/11/2010

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Apologies Serena , as it was after my post i thought it was directed to me :)

Amanda - posted on 11/11/2010

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Nope...never gave any of my children cereal out of a bottle! If they couldn't take it off a spoon they didn't get it.

Stifler's - posted on 11/11/2010

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That's what debating is about. Opinions backed up by facts and sometimes opinions and facts clash and good debate ensues.

Kayle - posted on 11/11/2010

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Well I guess if people don't want to hear other peoples opinions debate is not for them. lol I just find it funny when people flip out when somebodys opinion isn't the same as theirs.



I wasn't getting upset. It was directed towards Serena (sp?)...Sorry I have issues with the stuff I say coming out wrong. I'm socially challenged...lmao..

Kayle - posted on 11/11/2010

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Hmmm...and I always thought this website was to support other moms and seek advice and give it but I must be wrong...lol

Serena - posted on 11/11/2010

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@Loureen: wow I didn't even read your posts until after I posted so not sure how I took offense to you or your vast knowledge of the internet. Frankly I don't really care what your OPINION is, sorry...
But I have spoken to two different pediatricians,sorry I can't remember who that person was that mentioned it, on two different occasions who said it was helpful for her to have rice put into her formula for her spitting up. So again, I am going to have side with a doctor over some strangers on the internet.
I trust my mother instincts first always and if I ever run into what seems to be a problem with some doctors than I will seek a second opinion...so don't get that part twisted.
The main point here is I don't know any of you personally or can verify any of your credentials whereas I can and do with my pediatricians...sorry its just how I feel.

Stifler's - posted on 11/11/2010

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The clinic nurses told me that milk has the most calories and feeding them solids before their time just prevents them from absorbing enough calories because they can't digest solids until 6 months.

Charlie - posted on 11/11/2010

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Naaaaw *blush *

Hey parenting ( i Believe ) is one long learning curve , its the mistakes i have made that make's me want to learn more and become as informed as possible , but also i have always just loved learning how the human brain and body works especially the earlier development of the human child .

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I just wanted to say that when I tried the cereal in the bottle thing I wasn't doing it for me. I was doing it because I was uninformed and thought that my son was "supposed" to be sleeping through the night by then. I only tried it for a brief time, less than a week and then it's like my "Mommy brain" flipped over to my "instinctive brain" and I realized that Loureen is right. Babies are supposed to wake every few hours(ish) to feed. That's what he needed, so that's what we did. I also want to say that Loureen rocks and I wish I had had HALF her natural (and learned) knowledge when my son was first born.

Charlie - posted on 11/11/2010

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And Serena that is your perogative but since this is a debate i will express my opinion as you seem to have taken offence to my post perhaps you missed that i am talking about cereal in the bottle for the sake of getting a few hours more sleep a night , in which case i do not think it is fair on the baby or it's needs but i also do not believe in strict feeding routines for babies either but thats another debate .

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I gotta go with Loureen on this one as well.

For me, it's not so much the fact that some mothers do this, its their reasons why and its that 'trial and error' mentality which might be appropriate for some issues but I feel not appropriate for dealing with little babies.

And I'd rather trust a Doctor basing their recommendations on research and education than a parent basing their recommendations on experience BECAUSE a lot of parents mistake coincidence for a valid treatment.

Julie - posted on 11/11/2010

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Hmm ... medically/nutritionally, I'd have to say no.

In reality, I've tried adding it and, separately, veggies. My son had pretty severe oral aversions and he was still not taking in any solids by 8 months. I was mainly trying (on my own) to expose him to new flavors. Well, he wouldn't take more than a bite(suck) of it! When we met with the nutritionist she said it was unnecessary and the Pediasure (after 1 year) was all he needed until we could get his oral issues straightened out.

Except for one or two (presumably repulsive) bites/sucks/whatever, my son agreed that it is foul. Maybe it's a texture thing, but he never ate any baby cereal or food and still won't touch food items of similar texture.

As for why on the discussion, I agree that it is something to talk about that is really irrelevant to you, personally. Kinda like the discussion on which one of your five senses you'd chose to lose, if you had to pick one;)

Ez - posted on 11/11/2010

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@ Kayle - fruit and veggies in a bottle? SERIOUSLY?? That's a whole other level of ridiculous :-/

I'm with Loureen on this. It's not just the food confusion, or the premature introduction of solids. It's the motivation as well that I disagree with. If a baby is waking, it's because they're hungry. Feed them. Putting cereal in a bottle is a cop out. Everyone would love a full 8hrs sleep, but that's not reality for most new mothers. It shouldn't come as a shock. Books and experts - even doctors - may say babies 'should' be sleeping X amount of hours by Y months, but that is an unfair expectation for a lot of babies. Trying to force a baby to sleep longer than they are physiologically ready (either with cereal or CIO) is just not something I can agree with.

As for the doctor's advice, Lisa is right. I am a medical secretary for a group of GPs, and I can assure you they are not as current with their knowledge on infant nutrition as other health professionals. My doctor told me to give up BFing at 2 weeks because of my supply problems. I sought out further advice, and found a wonderful child health nurse who at least gave me some things to try. She is the one I went to with questions on feeding, not the doctor. Doctors treat sickness and injury, so these sorts of things just aren't much of a priority.

Kayle - posted on 11/11/2010

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Also, You need to trust your mommy instints more than any doctor. I knew there was something wrong with my sons vision doctor didn't believe me and made me wait 2 months for an appointment. Come to find out he's has Septo-optic dysplasia and other hormone problems due to it.

Also, my fiances cousin put baby food veggies and fruits into her sons bottle mixed with formula...ugh...

Kayle - posted on 11/11/2010

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I had never put cereal in my sons bottle until he was about 6 months old. He still wasn't sleeping through the night and was still getting up 3-4 times if not more in the middle of the night. We tried cereal twice and it didn't help. Then we found out he has diabetes insipidus (water diabetes) he's missing the hormone that controls how much water you hold in your body. So he was always going pee and always thirsty. So the cereal didn't work because he's thirsty not hungry. Have never put it in his bottle since. He's now 10 months old and eats it with his fruit for breakfast.

Bonnie - posted on 11/11/2010

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Shannen I agree. My mother just recently went through a situation where the family doctor told her to go home she's fine and eventually went to the ER and it's a good thing she did.

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Serena, If i trusted my local Dr then my son would more than likely not be here. He Fell out a window and fractured his skull and had bleeding on the brain. Took him to the local Dr as soon as it had happened he looked at him said he's fine go home. Next day at Antenatal appt i asked that DR to look at him and he immediatly sent us for the tests. So IMO you should never just trust your Dr whole heartedly! The first Dr gave wrong info i made a complaint but it fell on deaf ears because all of our health system will back the others.and it sucks big time :(

Sorry i know it was off topic. Just annoys me when people say how much they trust Dr's they are still humans and make mistakes.

Serena - posted on 11/11/2010

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Actually like I said I would trust what my doctor said over some random mom in a chatroom. Doctors are trained professionals who have a lot to lose if they give out wrong information. I don't know who you are or your background so why would I take your word over a doctor? So yes I would trust my pediatrician...I am standing by my point and if you disagree thats fine. Its your opinion.

Minnie - posted on 11/11/2010

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but why is it such a HUGE deal to others?

It's not really. I just like to argue :)

I do try to get some sound accurate information out to the masses but it's up to each mother to do what she thinks best for her child.

Leah - posted on 11/11/2010

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Lol, I actually find this topic amusing b/c people have such strong reactions to it. Like many of you, I was told by some mommy friends that its a great way to get your 4-5 month old baby to sleep through the night. But a light bulb did click in my head when I heard this that I had read something in my baby book NOT to put cereal in a bottle, so I never did. I can understand the extremes though, maybe some people put it in their 2 day old babies bottle (like Kati said), and that would be cause for concern because their bodies are not trained to swallow solid food yet. But, really, if its a 4 or 5 month old, no need to call CPS. For some people it works, but regardless, my LO started sleeping through the night at 6 months anyways, so meh (shrugs shoulders).

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WHYY KATE??? WHYYYY??? LOL Thank you for NOT putting it on the Welcome board :P I'd have definitely avoided it like the plague there. Those are some MEAN MOMMAS on that board! LOL

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