Open letter to The 53% guy

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Brittany - posted on 10/15/2011

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I will stand by this statement for the rest of my life, until the day I die, because I feel it says it all :

"The people should not fear their Government. The Government should fear its people." -V

Remember, remember the fifth of November. The gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the fifth of November should ever be forgot.

Jennifer - posted on 10/19/2011

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The main problem we have in our country with being able to maintain government provided healthcare is that the medical field (mainly including big Pharma) is not properly regulated for service fees or products. The medical field is still being treated as "for profit" instead of falling under humanities like firefighters, teachers and police officers. That being said...our country also pays far more for entertainment than for humanitarian services...which is beyond stupid. Our entire setup needs overhauled. I see no other way to correct the overall issue without regulation...and when regulations are put into place there are always people wanting to complain that their freedoms are being neglected....even if it is protecting the freedom of countless others. IF healthcare was ever overhauled and put in its place....and these companies worked for the good of humanity rather than to line their pockets, we would find a far more productive society. MOST issues I've ever seen relating to job loss or financial issues come back down to healthcare and the lack thereof. Obama's system (as advertised online) is to force people that cannot afford healthcare to buy it or suffer penalties at tax time....while proper regulations are still not going into place to make the healthcare affordable. If you could barely pay for health insurance AND all of your bills without being left without a dime to fall back on during the month...that is NOT reasonable or affordable. I've seen rates up to 40% of a person's paycheck just for insurance through a job....how can someone afford that if they are currently living at their means?

Jennifer - posted on 10/19/2011

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I think the guy responding to "liberals" makes far too many assumptions and generalizations while complaining about the same from the other side. It's hilarious seeing people generalize things they do not understand to justify their own opinion. I honestly agree with points from both sides....YES, there are people who're part of the 99% that have lived above their means and paid for it or amounted to lazy bums. YES, there are also people who are a part of the 99% who worked for everything they've had and gone through heck to attempt to keep what little they could hold on to for their families. EVERYONE has a different story so generalization isn't truly possible other than the fact that the tax situation needs to be corrected AND any bailouts need(ed) to have more regulations. There was open proof that many companies misused the funds by giving their top workers ridiculous bonuses instead of keeping jobs on the working class end or increasing jobs even. There has also been a LOT of media attention to the fact that the rich 1% (which funny enough doesn't typically include half the people fighting the 99%) pay less PERCENTAGE of taxes (noone is saying they pay less dollar for dollar). The thing is that the party system is stupid. BOTH parties have excellent points when it is PROTECTING our rights as listed in the constitution....and BOTH parties are extremely flawed on the idea of equality. Typically Dems help the poor and Reps help the rich. OF COURSE the government would try to make the 99% look bad when changing things would affect THEIR paychecks....I mean seriously...who doesn't get that? There are good and bad supporting the sides of each group....while so many people are missing the actual point. It's sad to watch.

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Amanda - posted on 10/19/2011

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While that was the most informative, respectful and educated letter I've read on those issues in a long time I disagree with a lot of things the writer said. Mainly the idea that our nation can afford to pay for all these things he wants. It seems like every day the government is wanting to cut spending and lower our national debt. If we were to allow the government to raise our taxes enough to pay for all of the fantastic proposed programs to raise the average person's quality of life we would be paying outrageous percentages. But kudos to the guy for being clear about his dreams for bettering our nation.

Brittany - posted on 10/18/2011

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I have no problems with Government. My problem lies with those that work in Government.

The Government is put in place to help the American people, to protect us and provide in times of need.

NOT push us around and take our lunch money like a bully on the playground.

There is nothing wrong with being Republican and there is nothing wrong with being a Democrat. What is wrong is when one of them thinks it is their way or the high way. I am a registered voter and I vote Dem. In the past Dems have had this attitude but, I have noticed that Repubs tend to have it more often.

THIS NEXT STATEMENT IS NOT MEANT TO OFFEND ANYONE! This is just truth:

The Great Depression started in 1929 under President Hoover, Republican. His idea to fix the problem? He said to just leave the economy alone it will fix itself. Obviously it did not.

In 1932 - 1933 when Roosevelt, Democrat, was elected he passed any and all legislation that came in front of him and his spending was INSANE! Hoover left the nation with a 25% unemployment rate and by the time WW2 started in 1940 our nation was down to 14% and once the war actually started it went down to 1%. The New Deal, AKA 3 R's, had a HUGE impact on our nation.

In 2009 when the economy was going out of control, again, President Bush, a Republican, said to leave the economy alone it will fix itself. Have we not seen this before?

Since Obama has been in office we have had small comebacks here and there. Obama's biggest issue is his office. They are all Republicans and they do not want to play by his word. They are giving him a hard time on purpose. Yes, Obama has spent a lot of money but, he has been cleaning up a war left on his door step. Yes, our Government has almost shut down but, none of them want to work together.

I believe people sometimes forget that you can not make money without spending money first. Let us think of America, after 9/11 (may they all rest in peace), as a business that has burned down. Obviously you will have some insurance on your business but, that insurance will not pay for everything. You must purchase new product, new shelves, display cases ect ect. You have to spend that money in order to get your business open again. Then people will come in and shop and once you have earned that money back you will see a profit. This is how economics works.

What we have today is not excessive supply but, inadequate demand.

Let me give an example:

You are going out to buy a brand new off the floor car. You have no trade and you are going to put $3,000 down. Let's say you want to pay it off in 5 years at a 7.5% (I believe this is close to an average rate for price and years). Please keep credit scores in mind, these estimations are assuming you have "good" credit.

2011 Honda Accord costs $26,005. Using the above information you will pay about $461.00 a month.

2012 Lexus IS costs $33,595 and will run you about $613.00 a month.

The demand would be for the Lexus because, of the name and popularity of the car but, the correct choice for a working class family would be the Honda. We have gotten away from living within our means.

The creation of public works projects would create jobs which means more taxes being paid in to the Government instead of out. This would lead to an increase in consumer demand, which in turn leads to economic revive.

The above mentioned is called Keynes Theory and was not taken into account and put in to effect until after WW2. This also meant that the measure should be taken even if the Government has to run deficits and maintain an unbalanced budget.

I am not trying to say one group is better than the other I am saying we all need to work together.

Jenni - posted on 10/17/2011

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I think a lot of it stems from the Elite playing republican and democratic citizens like they're college football teams. There is crazy rivalry and competition between the two groups. It is nothing like I've experienced here in Canada.

I fear it's how small interests control the population, if they're too busy fighting amongst themselves, they won't be paying attention to what goes on above them. It keeps the nation divided.

That's what I've been trying to explain, but they just don't see it that way. I've been trying to express that Occupy isn't a challenge to them. It is a symptom of a failing system. It is a symptom of a falling empire. I've been trying to explain to them that we all fundamentally want the same things. They don't want to be ruled by Big Government and we don't want to be ruled by Big Business. That if they (we) want our countries to be successful and beneficial to its citizens we need to have a common ground that keeps either side from gaining too much power. I even drew them a diagram:

BG (big government, extreme socialist, extreme left)
BB (big business, extreme capitalism, extreme right)

BG----China-------other developed nations--------USA-----BB

Maybe I'm not very good at explaining things. :P

JL - posted on 10/17/2011

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The thing is the information on the 53% page is misleading and much of it is false. All you can do is post the facts over and over in an effort to try and fight against the misleading propaganda. However some people just don't care about the truth they just like to incite hate.

JL - posted on 10/17/2011

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At the local Occpy GA meetings I attend one of the things we discuss with participants is how to educate and help others especially those claiming to be in the 53% understand why the 99% are occupying. The thing I have pushed is that we explain to the 53% group that like them we have all been sold the cultural ideal that if we go to school, get a job, work hard and do all the right things everything will work out for us. We have all been sold that cultural ideal of working hard and we all want to do that even though in my opinion we are overworked in this nation and put too much priority of profit over family and that is a mindset we need to rework. We all want an opportunity to get a decent job, affordable health care, healthy food and a roof over our heads. Despite what people may thing WE DON'T WANT A HANDOUT. WE ARE NOT LAZY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE RICH OR STEAL FROM THOSE WHO ARE. We just want to survive!!!!!! We wanted to live in a nation that has a government that actually speaks for us and to us NOT just for and to those with large sums of money. We understand and acknowledge greed is an inherit part of anything pertaining to profits but that doesn't mean it should rule us or take precedent over people's rights to survival and representation. We just want a system where corruption does not rule, lobbyists and special interests don't control those in office, and where our rights and health are not forfeited for the sake of profit. If history has taught us anything it is that an unhealthy corrupt nation will not succeed.. it will fall.

Nikki - posted on 10/17/2011

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I want to hug the writer! What an awesome response. Thanks for sharing :)

Angela - posted on 10/17/2011

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Wonderful letter!





I am so glad that not anyone in my country of residence has to work 70 hours a week, where your kids are forced into daycare or with babysitter as a newborn, or become latch key kids or fill in parents for the working parents just so they can all eat.

Kids are happy here. I can't say that for many of America's kids who one out of four go to bed hungry. Where the basics like food, shelter, and health care are considered a privilege.

I don't think anyone person in The Netherlands ever had to worry of becoming homeless esp. children.

I am so grateful that I can live on one income with my husband and raise my child by choice or work by choice. I have good health care and if my husband loses his job, I will still have good health care. They can not just fire my husband with out severance pay, and or lay him off. His almost 20 years at his job means something. I am so glad I live in a country where that most people did not even own a credit card until a decade ago. Many stores still don't take credit cards and the average person only carries debt on their homes and own their old but reliable used small cars.

I am not being told and sold everyday to buy buy buy buy and I am want I do as a job and own.

I say this as an American who now lives in OMG a social democracy. I am not a liberal or do I think the USA should become a socialist nation... But I do wish America realised how it is to to be balanced. To work to live and not live to work.

That capitalism is not a government!

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I really appreciate the response-it makes perfect sense.

I pulled this excerpt and love it:
"Look kid, I don’t want you to “get by” working two jobs and 60 to 70 hours a week. If you’re willing to put in that kind of effort, I want you to get rich. I want you to have a comprehensive healthcare plan. I want you vacationing in the Bahamas every couple of years, with your beautiful wife and healthy, happy kids. I want you rewarded for your hard work, and I want your exceptional effort to reap exceptional rewards."

Nicole - posted on 10/14/2011

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Personally, I don't fully agree with the 99% movement OR the 53% response. I think that going too far either way can be detrimental to society. In my opinion, some of the best US presidents were those that governed from the center, no matter their political party (they tended to lean slightly to the left or right of that center due to party views, but they did their best to be centered policy makers). That's what makes a democracy successful.



I have always considered myself to be conservative, but in recent years I've started to see some of my conservative peers to be just as kooky as I always thought liberals to be. I always felt conservatives lived by the old adage: "Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime." I always felt that liberals didn't see it that way. I thought they'd just rather take much of the fish from the man who worked hard for his mass amount of fish to give to the man who didn't care to learn to fish. I'm sure many liberals do feel this way, but recent dialogue with many of my conservative friends, has made me realize that they don't even want to teach the man to fish anymore, they would just rather he starve and leave more fish for those who already know how to fish. And I don't agree with that, at all. Even though, I don't think they'll openly admit that's how they feel, but that's what they say, in not so many words. (Sorry for such a long taxes/fishing analogy.) I don't have to know a person to care about what happens to them and I think when we make policy based on the fear that the lazy will take advantage, we run the risk of hurting the truly needy.



I think good things happen when everyone meets in the middle for the good of the nation as a whole. Rather than using party division to make bad decisions.

Brittany - posted on 10/14/2011

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In America we obsessed with working, working, working. Our vacation are a weekend or a week at best because, we have to get back to work. We have to have more money then the neighbors, our cars have to bigger, our nails have to be longer, or hair has to be shiny, our homes have to be bigger....blah blah blah.

What about our children? What about our spouse? Do you know the number one reason for divorce? Not spending enough time together. If your husband is working 60 or 70 or 80 hours a week do not be surprised if he is/ has or considered cheating on you with a co-worker. He sees that co-worker more then he sees you.

My family comes first. I could care less about a job. As a matter of fact on Tuesday I am missing Chemistry class, Lab and a Test because, my son is going on a field trip and he wants me to go.

I do not need or desire a large home. The apartment I live in does just fine. The only thing I wish for is an extra bedroom so my boys can have separate rooms but, that is not a necessarily. At least right now they are still young.

I do not have fancy clothes, can not tell you the last time I got my hair done, in the 24 years I have been alive I have never had my nails done, I paint my own toe nails, hand wash my dishes....I just do not see what is so wrong with living a moderate life style. If I could get away with it I would use public transit.

Johnny - posted on 10/14/2011

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That's fantastic Jenni! Very well said. I am so sick of hearing about how lazy and entitled I am for participating in this movement while I am driving to work in the morning or home at night from my full-time JOB. Or while cooking dinner for my family, cleaning the house, and waiting for my husband to come home from his full-time JOB so I can get out to my maintenance committee meeting. I think so many are really missing the point of the entire thing. This blogger says it well.

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