Parking in Handicapped Spots

Kimberly - posted on 10/26/2010 ( 117 moms have responded )

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What do you think about people that do not have disabilities that do this?



I'm disgusted by it. It's just low. I see perfectly abled bodied people park in handicapped then walk normally into the store. Make an effort, give up a fake limp at the very least!



Edited to add: WITHOUT THE PLACARD/TAGS.

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Cherese - posted on 11/23/2010

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I have to say its nice to hear most of you say that if someone has a placard there must be a reason. I have chronic nerve pain in my legs and feet as a result of spinal problems but for the most part I look perfectly normal. I walk normally and you wouldnt know anything is wrong..... then..... I have a flair up ( a sharp shooting pain or short stabbing pain that comes on suddenly and randomly, usually followed by muscle cramps) I dont know when its going to happen where I will be and what I will be doing. Then you can tell something is wrong with me, I limp, I cant walk, I cant move, I look like I want to cry (because usually I do want to). If I am out driving it means I am not on my meds (I refuse to risk my kids or anyone elses by doing that) so I have to rely on my implant... which you also wouldnt see... to help ease the pain.

I have been dealing with this for years but I never wanted to be the person taking the spot from the little old lady that cant take three steps on her own. So I never requested a placard....until now... I cant do the long parking lot walk again. Even when I am not having a flair up, I am in pain when I get to my car. I wondered what people thought when they saw me get out of the car.. its hard when you have a disability that isnt screaming "I'm Disabled!!" So I thank you all for feeling that there must be a reason the doctor signed off on the placard. It makes me feel a little better.



As for the original question..... I think people that use the handicap spots that dont have placards just so they can get out of walking the parking lot should have to feel someone else's pain for a day. I am disgusted by it as well!!

Amanda - posted on 10/26/2010

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My mother is handicapped, and uses those spots during the winter months. You would be disgusted by her OPer, because she can walk normally into a store. Does this make her handicap any less than someone using a cane, wheelchair, limp? God no because one day (hopefully not soon) she will be using one of those too.



Another example of a person I know who can legally use handicap spots, and walks normal. She isnt handicap her one year old son is, she has her sticker for her extremely ill son (who btw looking at him you cant tell just how ill he is), would you also be disgusted by her using her handicap spot?



So the next time you get disgusted by someone using a handicap spot who doesnt look handicap, rethink your thoughts, as long as they can legally park there you have no right to decide if they should or shouldnt (only a professional doctor can make those choices).

Lindsay - posted on 10/26/2010

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I don't pay a whole lot of attention to who's using handicapped spots. Now if someone is trying to park there without the parking permit, they will likely be coming out to a towed vehicle and that's their own fault. If someone parks there with the permit, it's totally within their right to use it. Just because I can't visibly see their handicap, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. They have it for a reason...not my business.

Kimberly - posted on 10/27/2010

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"I use the last stall, park the stroller in front of it, leave the door open and go. It's not a handicapped person's fault that we've decided to lug a big stroller into the store or that we decided to have children for that matter. We should be the ones suffering for it, not them with their piss soaked/soiled pants."

Right on! And that is exactly how I do it and did it today, leaving the handicapped stall available for someone that may have needed it.

Jess - posted on 11/28/2010

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Anyone who parks in the disabled parking spots is disabled though.... either you have a tag from your doctor OR need a tag because clearly your blind !!!

At my daughter's day care centre they have a hand full of parks and a disabled park that is right by the door and by far the safest park in the complex. Its constantly being used by non disabled parents because it allows you to put the kids in the car without the risk of them being hit by a car and you can open the doors up wider to get them into their seats.

The complex has lots of parking, but the shops that share the car park have become very pushy about the parks and have claimed almost ALL of the parks and have nasty signs everywhere telling day care parents that they will tow our cars if we use the spots. Which isn't fair, parking is now a premium for the day care so more and more parents will park in the disabled spot.

At my local shopping centre they have at least 100 disabled parking spots.... *far too many for the size of the shop*, they are always empty. But only 4 parents parking spots and they are at the end of the parking lot... its crap !

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Heather - posted on 07/26/2012

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The only expectant or stork parking in lawton I have found has been at hospitals. Okc has a few at the mall. Lawton stinks!

Sarah - posted on 03/12/2011

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years ago a friend of mine parked in the marked spots without a permit...she wasn't too worried about it--she figured the hand control in the car was good enough "proof" that she was qualified to park there!

Just to be clear, she was qualified. She had Spina Bifida, and had no feeling from mid-calf down. In public she walked with elbow length crutches, and occasionally used a wheel chair. I think later she DID apply for a permit.

walking may be "good" for pregnant women, but with my first pregnancy I gained 50+ pounds. By my last month, I couldn't even walk through the grocery store without having to pee every 3-4 isles, and there was no one else to do the grocery shopping. Same with my second and third children...hubby was there, but is clueless as to what needs to be bought.

Shauna - posted on 12/01/2010

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Oh and also carrying a baby carrier ..... that should be considered a handicap! those things are HEAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shauna - posted on 12/01/2010

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A friend of mine has to use the parking permit's . You wouldnt know unless you looked close either that she has a problem but she does. So yeah i dont really care if they have a permit they got it for a reason. However someone parking there without one is dumb .... but i really dont see that happen to often! BUT on another note they really do need more "pregnant or mother of young child" signs!!!!!!!! when i was pregnant i only went to stores with those .. its hard waddling up the the front of a mall entrance that is a mile away!

Jodi - posted on 12/01/2010

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"doctors do not give you a permit for temporary foot surgeries"

Sherri is right. I am in Australia, and we were able to get the doctor to authorise a permit for my husband when he had a tendon reconstruction in his foot.

Cat - posted on 12/01/2010

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Actually it's probably better for expectant mommies to walk. Walking is good exercise for pregnant women if they are able to. If they are not able to, then they shouldn't be out shopping at all. I tapped danced with second pregnancy up until my 7th month. I was HUGE but I could still move my feet. :)

Sherri - posted on 12/01/2010

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Actually Patricia they do give out temporary handicapped passes for surgeries, broken ankles etc. I know because my friend just got one for her broken ankle the surgeon's office gave it to her with a beginning date and ending date imprinted on it.

Patricia - posted on 12/01/2010

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There should be more "Expecting Mommys" spots in our shopping centers....that would cut down on this a great deal i would think? Hmmm??? but then again....prolly not!! lol

Patricia - posted on 12/01/2010

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Something my grandmother always said, "honey ya gotta put yourself in someone elses shoes...we never really know why people do what they do...or react the way they do"...Maybe sometimes people have a child in a carrier that weighs too much...and the mother could be expecting another baby...maybe someone had a foot surgery and is wearing a surgical shoe and its closer to park in the handicapped spot for now...doctors do not give you a permit for temporary foot surgeries....I know it stinks that some people are abusing handicapped parking spots....but rest assure....one day..."old "KARMA" will bite them in the BUTT baby!!! LOL

Corinne - posted on 12/01/2010

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I don't think my sis bothered to apply for hers cause she thought it was pretty damned stupid too, especially as the parent and child spots are usually next to the handicapped ones?! But this is the U.K I'm talking from and the system here is somewhat screwed. : /

Patricia - posted on 12/01/2010

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I totally agree with you on people parking in a handicapped spot without a permit....thats just nothing but "rude" and disrespectful to those who need them as they DO struggle with physical challenges. Although I have a handicapped permit it's not always hanging from my mirror as it should be....reason being...being handicapped makes me feel somewhat embarressed...and I feel ashamed. :(
I suffer from several back injuries, buldged discs and had my pelvic broke a few years back along with having to under go 8 foot surgeries.... Sometimes depending upon the weather conditions I may appear to walk with my usual "shake" lol. But then there's other times lifting my left leg out from the car is extrememly difficult and walking through a huge department store can be tremendously challenging. I absolutely refuse to use one of those electric riding carts...it makes me feel horrible although in the past I had no choice after having 8 foot surgeries ( 6 of them bone ) and had no choice but to ride around in one...lol
To look at me...you would "never" think I had a disability...I hide it very well!!! : )
Being the young age of 49 and disabled is not something that is easy to swallow...living in this Barbie Doll world of ours where people stop and stare at you because you appear different or walk with a limp is so humiliating...so with that being said...all I ask is this...."People with disabilities" all struggle in one way or another...instead of condeming them...saying that they seem to be walking fine and shouldn't be parking in that handicapped spot...Look at it from a different approach..."Wow!! I must be really BLESSED!" Because... I do not have to park in a handicapped spot! My back doesn't hurt and my feet and legs are able to walk!!! :-)
I have a disability....MY DISABILITY does NOT have ME!!! :-)
Thanks for reading....hope this enlightens you somewhat and gives you more appreciation and understanding to others. :-)
God Bless You!! :-)
Trish

Sherri - posted on 11/30/2010

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We have that in the US to Corinne but I don't think for Autism I am pretty sure it has to be a physical aliment.

Corinne - posted on 11/29/2010

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The disabled badges aren't just for the driver of the car, over here (U.K) my sis is entitled to one cause one of her kids is autistic.

Sherri - posted on 11/28/2010

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Ya we don't have breastfeeding areas here and almost all the baby changing stations are in the handicapped stalls so it isn't an option. I always take my 4 yr old in with me too so I always use the handicapped stall.

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I agree! They just renovated the food court washrooms at a mall in a neighboring city and the parent room there is friggin AMAZING! There's lazy boy chairs, tables and toys....it's a place for moms to breastfeed with large stalls to use the washroom as well.

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That's how they are here in Canada too, Jodi.....NOW, in new malls, buildings, businesses etc. they're making a seperate family washroom but previously they were one in the same. The change tables are typically in the handicap washroom stall.

Jodi - posted on 11/27/2010

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" A lot of the people i supported had incontinence issues so when we needed the toilet....we really needed it!!! I see all the time families using the disabled toilets and i can understand why but if there is someone with a disability waiting, let them go first...the toilet is ther for them!"

Just a couple of questions:

1. What do these people with incontinence do when there is someone disabled already using the toilet (as opposed to a family).

2. Not all disabled people are obviously disabled, so how do people know to let these disabled people go first?

Just saying.

In Australia, the disabled toilet often IS the family room, so I have every right to use it with my family.

Cat - posted on 11/27/2010

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If there was a handicapped person waiting for a bathroom stall I would definitely let them go first. I do use the handicapped stall from time to time but never when someone handicapped is waiting for it.

Jenny - posted on 11/27/2010

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I don't care who gets the placards. If you feel you are to handicapped to cross a parking to walk (or otherwise transport yourself) through a shopping mall who am I to judge? Park where you want and go shopping.

Even when I was 9 mths. pregnant I parked at the edge of the parking lot. I can't be bothered to circle for something closer.

Kerry - posted on 11/27/2010

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i have worked in disability all my life, supporting people with disabilities to access the community. I can't tell you how much it enrages me to see people do this without a permit. I would say though, please don't judge someone if they do have a permit and don't "look disabled" you never know!!

I have seen someone who I knew (a co-worker!) park in a spot so i left a little note on their windscreen saying

"IGNORANCE IS NOT A DISABILITY"

People might not think their actions have an impact but they do.

It is just as important not to use disabled toilets when you don't need to. A lot of the people i supported had incontinence issues so when we needed the toilet....we really needed it!!! I see all the time families using the disabled toilets and i can understand why but if there is someone with a disability waiting, let them go first...the toilet is ther for them!

Sherri - posted on 11/27/2010

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It does not happen here very often actually I can't even remember the last time it happened. If I saw it though it would disturb me. The fines for getting caught here are around $300 so it really deters people from doing so.

Melissa - posted on 11/26/2010

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I hate it when people judge without facts. Not everyones disability is obvious! My sister is 70% disabled from her 6 years in the army, but since it's in her joints she looks and acts normal. So don't assume that just because a persons not dragging their leg behind them doesn't mean they don't hurt.

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I have used the handicap bathroom because that the only stall that has a child seat too. My youngest is only six months old so I can't just have him stand near me and I don't ever leave him in the cart. I don't think any place where I live has a separate parents stall.

Stifler's - posted on 11/24/2010

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I use them when there's no parents room. The mothers room toilet is way less roomy than the handicapped toilets which sucks.

Cat - posted on 11/24/2010

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There's a funny comedian who jokes about catching Handicapped people parking in OUR spots and kicking them out! LOL ha ha.

I don't park in handicapped spots, but I must confess that I too (like another mom here) use the handicapped bathroom. I love handicapped bathroom stalls. It's like the Penthouse of public bathrooms! LOL

Jodi - posted on 11/24/2010

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@ Emma

"Walking helps you recover from surgery, use it or lose it is what they say now. "



Not necessarily. My husband had to remain non-weight bearing for quite some weeks, and then following that, was only able to walk small amounts on his foot in a properly fitted boot. He had his tendon totally cut and then stitched back together and walking would have slowed the healing process in the early stages. It wasn't until he had several weeks of physiotherapy that he was given the all clear to start using it normally. So basically, if a doctor signs a form for you for a placard, there IS a reason for it.



Just for the record, if we could get a park close that wasn't a disabled park, we would use it. If I was out without my husband I wouldn't use it, that's just rude. But we used it when we needed to.

April - posted on 11/24/2010

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is claustropbia a handicap? 'cause that's why I use the handicap stalls in bathrooms! Lucklily no one has ever been waiting to use them before.

Cherese - posted on 11/24/2010

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@ Emma, walking helps only with certain surgeries and depending on the distance it can sometimes do more harm than good. Only a doctor can tell someone what will help them. In my situation a cane or walker would only make the situation worst, using those devices would cause the muscles in my back to weaken as I am not using them to support myself. My initial spinal problem was scoliosis and DDD which caused spondylolisthesis and since I still have both conditions the muscles being used and in shape is what keeps another slippage from occuring. I have had all of the surgeries I can for now (I have at least two more in my lifetime according to my doctors if nothing else ever happens), I am on heavy medications and I have regular physical therapy. I am sorry that you have experienced someone being a butt and saying they are worst off then they are but that isnt everyone honey. I am almost housebound except for one main problem.... I am married to a servicemember who deploys and I have kids to take care of so.... I keep my doctors and therapists on their toes keeping me as functional as possible because I HAVE to be.It doesnt mean that the thought of grocery shopping doesnt make me want to cry or that I dont have days I cant get out of bed from the pain. I have so much titanium in my spine that I cant go through metal detectors, thats not even including my spinal cord stimulator implant.

You cant judge everyone because of someone that abuses the system.... many people with back conditions are in bad shape but able to walk on their own for short distances. You dont need to see whats holding them up because for me its a metal braced spine!

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I find it frustrating that some of you think handicap spaces should only be for people with a walker or wheel chair. I do know people who have gotten tags when it was totally unnecessary and that is just as frustrating as people who take up spots without a tag. It also bugs me when pregnant women use handicap spots because they think they are entitled. Those spots are for the people who need them and I can honestly say I have never parked in one and never will.

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April, there isn't much chance of him re-injuring it, no! He is of the opinion that until or unless he NEEDS to park closer, he won't use up those stalls. There will eventually come a time where he will need to use it but he wants to walk while he can. He's also supposed to use a cane but he never does. I told him he better or I'ma work him over with it instead. Beating a grown man with his own cane....what a sight! :P

Stifler's - posted on 11/24/2010

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I know a guy in this town who claims to have a bad back or some shit and has a placard and parks in the disabled park and he is out shopping like every day. I know for a fact that he is making it up, since he's out shopping every day walking around the shops with his wife and 4 kids. If you're walking around the shops every day why do you need to park close to the door? Can't you walk the 5 extra metres from another park?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/24/2010

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@ Jackie...damn,...everytime I would use and handicap stall (even if all the rest are full) there will always be someone waiting for it that actually needs it when I get out,...and of course there will be other open stalls afterwards...I always feel like an ass! I only use them now if I am with my kids and I need the extra room!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/24/2010

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If you have a Placard/tag, it means you need it. If you are parking there, don't need to, and don't have a tag...that is awefully rude and inconsiderate.

If you use someones car with a tag, and take advantage of the spot...shame on you!

Stifler's - posted on 11/24/2010

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Walking helps you recover from surgery, use it or lose it is what they say now. Wouldn't you need a walking frame or stick or wheelchair then?

April - posted on 11/24/2010

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@Dana...16 surgeries is a lot! i'd use the handicapped spot if i were him...do you think the extra walking could cause re-injury and create a necessity for a 17th surgery one day? or maybe I just worry too much...

April - posted on 11/24/2010

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I have a handicapped tag. i am deaf and the reason i have it is because i've been bumped into by cars backing out of spaces. Happened more than once! Thankfully I never got hurt. HOWEVER....if there is a close spot that is not a handicapped spot (perhaps it is just next to one), then I park in THAT space. I like to save the handicapped spots for the wheelchair bound or the elderly, if i can. I am more inclined to do it if I have someone with me...that way if I can't or don't park in a handicapped spot, someone can watch out for me. (never knew some cars make a sound when they go in reverse!)

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Ummm, my FIL and my partner, Chad both have handicap placards. I'm not sure why my FIL does because it's not physically obvious but regardless, he does. Chad has one because he's on a lifetime pension from WCB (Worker's Compensation Board) due to a work related injury 13 years ago. Chad had 16 surgeries over the years and walks with a pivot in his left ankle. He's got permenant nerve damage and suffers daily but....

I've never seen either of them use their placards.....just thought I'd share! There WILL come a day though, where they will and at least the option is there. You cannot judge a book by it's cover.

Cherese - posted on 11/24/2010

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Jodi, I did edit. I had Emma's post in quotation marks above my reply. It did all look like one posting so I just changed it to say "@ Emma" where her posting was.

Jodi - posted on 11/24/2010

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Cherese, did you edit your post? Or maybe I read Emma's and thought it was yours, or I'm thinking now it could have been Jodi K's.......I've had a bad day. I do apologise if I read all of it wrong ;) Wherever I was directing it...NO IT IS NOT MEANT ONLY FOR WHEELCHAIRS!!



@ Emma, to get a permit in Australia, you actually DO have to apply with a doctor's signature. They issue permanent (my in-laws have one because my father-in-law has severe Parkinsons) or temporary 3 month permits, depending on the circumstances.

Cherese - posted on 11/24/2010

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@ Jodi... I was quoting and responding to Emma's post.



@ Emma, You cant just claim to be disabled there is a set definition that the doctor must agree applies to you. I work from home, because driving is painful and I cant hold any position without pain longer than 15 mins. I dont use crutches, canes or a wheelchair but if you ever saw my teenagers getting me out of the car when I am having a flair up... you would think I need to. But I guess I am a "fool" that claimed to be disabled just so I could take a park from someone in a wheelchair. BTW there are no other parks near the door, those are the first to go always!

Stifler's - posted on 11/23/2010

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I said wheelchair/walking frame etc. The etc. meant crutches. You don't need to park there if you don't need an extra wide parking space. There are other parks near the door. Any fool can claim to be disabled and get a placard.

Jodi - posted on 11/23/2010

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Wow, Cherese. My husband used handicapped spaces while his foot was healing from surgery on his tendons. He was on crutches, then in a boot, and struggled to walk distances. He wasn't in a wheelchair. But he needed to park close to doors if he could. Often the diabled parks were the only ones near the doors. He had a placard issued by the government. Believe it or not, while he was getting in and out of our car with crutches, he needed the door wide open too. It was quite awkward. They are not intended only for wheelchairs. They have been designed to be able to accommodate wheelchairs, but not entirely for that purpose.

Nikkole - posted on 11/23/2010

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I HATE when people park in handicap parking and theres nothing wrong with them or they dont have a handicap license plate or sticker! I mean really you cant walk a little further like everyone else! And at our mall they have expecting mother parking and mothers with new babys but i see people park there all the time that are NOT pregnant or just found out that is STUPID i feel like smacking them even when i was prego i would park in another spot to get some exercise :)

Cherese - posted on 11/23/2010

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@ Emma..... Not all handicap parking spaces are designated for vans and equipment. If being in a wheelchair was the only requirement for a handicap space there wouldnt be any other way to obtain plates and placards.

Jodi - posted on 11/23/2010

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HATE THEM!!! My sister is in a wheelchair and needs the extra large space to get her wheelchair out and get in it. She couldn't care less if the spot was at teh farthest end of the parking lot, she just needs that extra space, but so many times she has to park extremely far away because someone without tags or plates has taken the spot and if she parks too close, someone will park close to her and she then can't get in her car when she comes out.
The other thing I hate seeing is when a group of perfectly abled younger people will take their grandpa or grandma with plates or tags to a football game or concert so that they can park close and dear old grandma or grandpa stays in the car the whole time. Yes, I have seen this...it's actually REALLY common on black friday around here coming up too! Seriously, couldn't sweet grandma just drop you off at the door, drive and park away and pick you back up instead of hogging a space that isn't being used appropriately?

Stifler's - posted on 11/23/2010

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I HATE THEM. I want to write on their cars. Even if they have a bad back or ADHD.. they are still lazy and inconsiderate. The disabled parks are wider so PEOPLE WITH WHEELCHAIRS can get out of their car and into their wheelchair/walking frame/etc. and not smash their car and someone elses in the process. I used to work for Ozcare and it was a pain in my arse to see people who can walk using them, there are other parks close to the door.

Jenn - posted on 10/28/2010

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Yes, at the mall here it is a handicap/big ass stroller stall - there is no family bathroom. Just to show how out of date our mall is (aside from the fact that it has crappy stores), the bathroom door doesn't even have a handicapped button to help open the door and when I do have the stroller it is a major struggle. When I go out with the "big ass stroller" it makes me more aware of just how unaccessible our world really is to some people and it pisses me off! There are some stores that you can't even go in if you're in a wheelchair because you literally can't get in or the aisles are far too narrow. :(

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