People used as Lab Rats....for sexually transmitted diseases.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/03/2010 ( 13 moms have responded )

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America the F*ing great…
Who did they find so ruthless to do such a thing…
This truly boggles my mind….I would be PISSED… (I am, but more so if it were my family member)
Can you imagine your mother, father, aunt, uncle…ect being part of this…and because the country is a “Super Power” nothing much is being done…(so far anyway) if the tables were turned….America would be going to war with someone….someone would pay severely for what they would have subjected Americans to…


GUATEMALA CITY (AFP) – Guatemalans on Saturday slammed a US confession that it led a 1940s study in the Central American country in which hundreds of people were deliberately infected with sexually transmitted diseases.

"No matter how much of a superpower it is, the United States cannot do this kind of experimentation," Nery Rodenas, the chief of the human rights office at the archbishop of Guatemala's office, told reporters.

"They used Guatemalans as lab rats. It is important that family members receive some kind of compensation."

Lawmaker Zury Rios also urged compensation for not only the victims, but the nation as a whole.

"It is just not enough to say you are sorry. We need to be compensated as a (sovereign) State, maybe with the funding of a solid sex and reproductive health program," she insisted.

In a phone conversation with President Alvaro Colom on Friday, US President Barack Obama expressed his deep regret for the experiment conducted by US public health researchers in Guatemala between 1946 and 1948, and apologized "to all those affected."

The study, which was never published, came to light this year after Wellesley College professor Susan Reverby stumbled upon archived documents outlining the 1940s experiment led by controversial US public health doctor John Cutler.

Cutler and his fellow researchers enrolled people in Guatemala, including mental patients, for the study, which aimed to find out if penicillin, relatively new in the 1940s, could be used to prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

"There is no evidence study participants gave informed consent, and in fact... the subjects were often deceived about what was being done to them," Collins told reporters as he outlined the experiment's most flagrant ethics violations.

Cutler, was also involved in a highly controversial study known as the Tuskegee Experiment in which hundreds of African American men with late-stage syphilis were observed but given no treatment for 40 years, between 1932 and 1972.

Initially, the researchers infected female Guatemalan commercial sex workers with gonorrhea or syphilis, and then allowed them to have unprotected sex with soldiers or prison inmates.

A total of some 1,500 people took part in the study. At least one patient died during the experiments, although it is not clear whether the death was from the tests or from an underlying medical problem.

"This news makes me furious," capital resident Cindy Aceituno told Prensa Libre. "This just confirms that the United States and capitalism disregard human rights."

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♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/03/2010

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Oh and another thing….the next time you see me or anyone else post something that has already been posted….just simply tell us and give the link….you don’t have to be so damn rude…
Im sorry if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed

Heather - posted on 10/03/2010

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To me, this is like America compesating every black person because some of their ancestors were slaves. I am truly sorry slavery occured, but I don't think people need compensation 175 years later. In the case of the OP, I find it typical that America is taking a bad rap for testing diseases and cures on unsuspecting people bc I find it hard to believe the Guatemalan Government didn't know...though medical standards back then were horrible and America did just as much medical testing on it's own people without their consent. Governments all over the world have done it(and still do). As I said, I'm so sorry this happened, but I don't think people should be compensated for something that happened 64 years ago....unless someone from the testing is still alive. Then maybe that person should be compensated.

Dana - posted on 10/03/2010

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Yes. I mean what more can you do? Seriously. It was 64 yrs ago... Of course I'm not one to hold a grudge, it's a waste of time and people have flaws. I choose to move on.

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Tah - posted on 10/03/2010

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let's look at the tuskegee experiment when black sharecroppers were used to study the affects of syphillis. Doctors knew what they had and instead of treating them, they told them they were suffereing from bad blood and they watched them suffer through, going blind, pain, being paralyzed and them passing it to spouses and children. So i dont have a surprised look on my face about this. Also ladies ladies..calm down...take a second and breath.....

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@Dana Schenk
War is a bit extreme ..what do you think America would do, if not war?
seek an apology and call it a day?

C. - posted on 10/03/2010

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Firstly, I wasn't trying to come off as rude, Jodi. I realize it came off as that with me telling her to get off her damn high horse.. BUT, she didn't need to be so rude about America when EVERY country makes mistakes. Countries are run by humans, therefore there is margin for human error. If she didn't want people to be rude, she shouldn't have made her FIRST post about this in the way she did.



@Ebony, until you can talk to me with some tact, you can talk to a brick wall. I do not spend all day on here, thank you (the majority of the time, it's only after my son and husband have both gone to bed that I get on here). I don't even get on here EVERYDAY! There have been times where I went 4, 5 and even 7 days without getting on here (and a few times that were longer than that), so don't tell me I'm on here all the time. And when I DO get on, it's after I've emptied and/or filled the dishwasher, taken out the trash, do whatever else needs to be done.. So how could I be spending ALL my time on here.. But yet, still be so productive???

Dana - posted on 10/03/2010

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While it is despicable, it is completely laughable at the suggestion that America would go to war over something like this had the tables been turned. Honestly.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/03/2010

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I know your not sticking up for me, but thanks Jodi A :-)

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/03/2010

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First of all am not bashing America…(I know you didn’t say anything about that, but I want to make that clear) second I didn’t see it…unlike you, I don’t spend all my time on here, so I don’t see EVERY post that comes along….and I can have my opinion about this and be as mad as I want to…

just because it was done so long ago does not take away from how F-up it was…and believe me hun…im not on a high horse…how can i be on a high horse when im feeling bad for a RACE of people?????



how are you entitled to feel the way you do???

Who are you?!

your sittin here annoyed or pissed...whatever it is at me...and thats fine, but i cant feel the way i do??? how does that work??

C. - posted on 10/03/2010

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First of all, get off your damn high horse.. America the F*ing great.. I swear, what the hell is up with that attitude? This was SIXTY YEARS AGO, for one thing. Second of all, ALL COUNTRIES screw up at one time or another. AND ANOTHER THING: Loureen already posted a thread about the same damn thing! Why don't you join in on that one instead of starting another thread. America the f*ing great.. SMH.

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