Police use taser on 11-year-old suspect

Lady Heather - posted on 04/10/2011 ( 16 moms have responded )

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From my local news...



"RCMP used a stun gun to subdue an 11-year-old boy after a stabbing on Thursday evening.



Police say they shocked the child, who was the suspect in the attack, after he emerged from a home.



The incident began when RCMP arrived at another home around 5:30 p.m. to investigate a 9-1-1 call reporting a stabbing.



They found a wounded 37-year-old man and he was rushed to hospital while officers searched for the young suspect.



Police found the boy next door and say he was taken into custody and transported to hospital for assessment after an officer deployed the conducted energy weapon.



West Vancouver Police have been called in to conduct an independent investigation, where they will review police response and actions surrounding the use of the stun gun.



The victim of the stabbing is in good condition in hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, while there is no word on the condition of the suspect."



http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/artic...



Obviously more facts are needed here, but man...this poor kid. Yes, he stabbed someone. But imagine the kind of shit life you'd have to have to be stabbing people at 11 years old. Oh...what this article doesn't mention is that he is in ministry care and lives at a group home for foster kids. Saw that on the news. Bleh. Sad story. Can't imagine many scenarios in which tasering a child would be necessary, so it should be interesting to see what comes of the investigation.

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Johnny - posted on 04/10/2011

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The RCMP tasered a terrified man at our airport who did not speak English and was "armed" with a stapler (of the common office variety) in front of horrified onlookers. Including one who fortunately taped the incident. The tasering resulted in the man's death and multiple inquiries that have lead no where. That is why those of us who live near this incident are so skeptical. There is a very bad history here and there have been repeated incidents.

Stifler's - posted on 04/10/2011

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If he was unarmed why'd they *need* to taser him? You don't taser someone unless you need to. Tasers have killed grown men.

Johnny - posted on 04/10/2011

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It was at a remote secured foster home out in the countryside. The cops have not commented on whether or not the boy was holding the knife at the time. Hopefully there were other witnesses, but it's not like it happened on a busy street.

On tonight's news there were several law enforcement experts, including a police psychologist and a criminology professor, who were quite concerned about what happened. They both mentioned that tasers are not designed to be used on those of smaller statue.

Vera - posted on 04/10/2011

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That poor boy is headed in the wrong direction. I think there could have been another way to subdue the child, but if he was on drugs and out of his mind with the knife then the cop may have used the only non leathal thing he had to use - don't they have those bean bag guns - they sting and bruise but maybe safer than the tazer. I wish they would have gotten it on video... that would have answered a lot of questions.

Johnny - posted on 04/10/2011

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It was the first thing that popped into my head too. But the second thing that popped into my head is that it is entirely possible that the guy was not abusive at all and just happened to be the unfortunate victim of a disturbed child's rage.

Jenni - posted on 04/10/2011

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I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was molesting the boy. That's the first thing that popped into my head when they said 37 year old man and 11 year old boy. If that was the case.... serves him right for thinking he can take advantage of a child. I don't mean to jump to conclusions but it just sounds fishy to me.



I agree the RCMP have been way too taser-happy lately. They've killed grown men with those things. An 11 year old child, c'mon. That just doesn't sit well with me at all. Need more details.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/10/2011

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Yeah, that was CRAP. Hmmm...we could just get a translator to try and figure this shit out. OR we could go apeshit and tase this guy to death. Hmmm...

Johnny - posted on 04/10/2011

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Just reading another article on CTV, it says that the RCMP did not state that the boy was armed at the time of the tasering. You'd think that they would inform the media of that when asked so that people would not assume that they were tasering an unarmed child. But given the Robert Dziekański incident, nothing would surprise me.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/10/2011

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He was probably born addicted to drugs or some shit like that too. Some kids don't get a fair shake at life at all.

Johnny - posted on 04/10/2011

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I'm really outraged by this. I saw it last night on the news too Heather. Unless this kid was a giant of an 11 year old, the cop easily could have killed him. And as I understand it, those devices are not designed for use on children or people under a certain weight limit. It could have killed him.

The RCMP seem really out of control in the past few years here in BC. There have been too many cases where their actions have been found to be inappropriate that I have a hard time assuming that they were in the right this time. I am glad that the West Van police will be investigating them this time instead of them "investigating" themselves.

I also wonder what the Ministry is going to do with him. They'll probably decide they don't have an appropriate facility for him and put him out on "independent living". Seriously, I would not be surprised.

Kate CP - posted on 04/10/2011

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No, I agree that cops have a tendency to use tasers too much. They assume that a LESS lethal weapon means that it's not lethal at all and that's not true. If the kid wasn't armed and was a normal sized 11 year old then yea, I don't think tasing him was a good play. But if he had a knife or was larger than your average pre-teen then you bet yer butt I'd zap him.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/10/2011

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I know maybe it seems like I am being ultra sympathetic towards the kid but we've had problems with tasers in the past here. In one casy a guy died after he was tasered IN CUSTODY. He was tied up and they tasered him. So it's kind of hard for me to automatically assume the cops were in the right.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/10/2011

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If he is a normal sized 11 year old, he could have been killed just as easily with a taser. Thin chest walls make a cardiac event more likely. It's a big risk to take. Obviously preferable to shooting, but not necessarily needed to make the arrest. I think the fact that they've brought in out of town officers to investigate suggests there's a chance something wasn't done right.

Kate CP - posted on 04/10/2011

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It doesn't MATTER if he was abused or not. The cop's job is to bring the suspect in relatively unharmed and without hurting innocent by standers or himself. And if the 11 year old still had a knife after he stabbed the grown man then yea, I'd rather the cops tase him than shoot him.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/10/2011

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I suppose that's easy to say if it really is that black and white, but how do we know he wasn't abused or something? In this country we don't even hold kids under 12 criminally responsible for anything they do. Maybe he was a really big 11 year old. Otherwise I'm not really getting it because I'd think it would be pretty easy to subdue him. I see them do it to adults all the time when I'm downtown. Maybe he was threatening his own life or someone else's? I don't know.

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