Purpose of a debate?

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Charlie - posted on 02/06/2010

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Amie i agree with your post .

A couple of other things i would like to add.

Use facts when debating combined with your opinion to set forward a good argument , Opinions on their own will not hold up if facts based on studies and research suggest otherwise , whinging that you dont believe the facts only makes you look like a cry baby who has nothing left to contribute to the discussion .

Dont get too emotionally involved , being passionate is wonderful in debate being childish and whiney is not .

Take responsibility for your word , if you are prepared to post it then you better stand by it , remember that everyone can read your posts , theres no point saying something and getting all upset because you've been called out for being insulting .

Krista - posted on 02/06/2010

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That's right, Amie! I remember one debate with someone (I don't recall whom), where the woman was making all of these assertions, and when I asked her for some sources, she said, "Go look it up yourself -- I don't have to prove myself to you."

Let me tell you, among any sort of serious debaters, that statement would get you laughed out of the room.

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ME - posted on 02/07/2010

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I like a good conversation about any number of topics...the best thing about a debate is the opportunity to learn something new about a topic, or about another "group"...or, even about myself. I am always interested in doing the hard work to prove to myself and others that my standpoint is logically coherent...I find this site to be just about the only one where the ladies are challenging and respectful...and I appreciate that!!! I agree with most of you who have said that opinions based on FACTS are important...I get a little annoyed when a person comes to a debate with nothing but opinion, and then gets angry or upset when their ideas are not taken seriously...

Michelle - posted on 02/06/2010

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You know Kati, I do the same thing-- When I find myself getting angry or upset or whatever, that's when I delete my post, log off, and come back tomorrow. I don't add my input anymore, and let it go. Because I think that while we do "debate," what we do here more often is "Discuss." We try to maintain mature conversations based on fact AND opinion AND feelings, and sometimes we all get upset, and sometimes we all agree on something.

I'm here because my opinion is valued, whether or not people agree with it, and no one belittles me, or gets snotty when I stop participating.

When I come to DM I know that I can read what people are saying (lol) and that we will have real conversations where no one will get all shitty with me about the things I've done or the things I believe. I know that if someone has a valid point I can concede to it without ridicule, and if I have a valid point, others will concede to it instead of bitching and moaning and fighting it just to be stubborn.

Amie-- You make a good point-- I totally agree that we all need to be aware that we are communicating through text and we lose the body language, tonality, and rapport that we would usually have with people we discuss such passion-raising topics with. That is one reason I try not to post when I'm getting upset-- because there may be no reason to be upset. I've actually gotten into a pretty catty fight with someone on CoM because I may or may not have.... that's open still... lol... misunderstood something she said.

Anyway, I rambled a bit, but I basically come here to DM because I haven't found a single other group on CoM that is as respectful as this one.

?? - posted on 02/06/2010

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Krista Elliott
Jo, it's debating moms, not master-debating moms....


Omg.. how embarrassing... I must have clicked the wrong link and just assumed...

I sincerely apologize

JL - posted on 02/06/2010

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I embrace my delusions...but usually mine involve hot lusty male vampires....ggrrrowl.

?? - posted on 02/06/2010

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Me too !!! My delusions usually involve a really sexy man though... situations where I don't care if I'm right or wrong, just as long as he don't stop doin whatever it is he's doin hehehehe I will embrace that all niiiiight lonnnnnng mmm chica bwow wow chica mm mmm

Rosie - posted on 02/06/2010

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i look for people to bring some facts with their opinions in a debate, and not to belittle someone else just because they don't have the same opinion as you. i've found debating to be very helpful in seeing why some people choose to do some things that others don't, and i have found myself swayed by some others arguments. there are some debates on here that i take to personally such as vaccinations and people telling their children that their step parent is actually their biological parent, and i get very upset because under no circumstances will i ever change my mind on these topics, i should learn to just not put in my opinion on topics like these-it will only cause me to look like a crazy woman in others eyes, when actually i'm very sane......i think. he he!

?? - posted on 02/06/2010

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I agree with the ladies so far, surprise surprise !

(Maybe we SHOULD change it to "Agree With Me" forum!!!!!!)



I think a debate HERE on DM... the only REAL purpose it has is to share and discusson an adult level because there are so many variables that 'we' can't control, examine, authenticate, prove or disprove. There's always going to be opinion, emotion and fact.



So, there's no right, wrong, winner or loser.



The only loser is the person who brings the attitude when they think they're right and think they're the winner and people tell them to remove the attitude or bugger off.



The matter of respect, decency, manners and overall tact - it's common sense - to most.

Amie - posted on 02/06/2010

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If you're going to site facts make sure you have the references. It's not my "job" to go and look them up for you. If you leave it open though and I do go look. More often than not I've found them to be false "facts". So don't get butt hurt when I tell you so.

Be clear when you are using your opinion vs. using facts. There is a difference. Our opinions are derived from many aspects as we go through life. Facts are just facts. You can not change them no matter how hard you may try.

When using studies on controversial issues do not confuse this with being a fact either. There will be conflicting studies done on the same issue and people are free to use them. This is where opinion comes into play again.

Do not demand respect or come in with attitude if you are not willing to get it back. I can and will remain respectful to those that have done the same with me.

Be aware that everyone is different and we lose a lot when communicating through text. You can not always tell when a person is joking, you can not always tell if something was said in a light hearted manner to ease tensions. Ask questions if you are unsure.

There is a difference between being passionate about a subject and being demeaning. A lot seem to take things personally when they really should not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion just as you are yours.

Krista - posted on 02/06/2010

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Laura, I disagree!

I kid. I look for those same things. I like being able to learn something from a debate -- to understand why someone would see things a certain way. I like it when people can disagree and argue their viewpoint and not take it personally. I enjoy it when someone gets a good, zingy point in at my expense -- it's fun!

AND, I want people to respect my right to continue to disagree with their opinion, even if they do have lots of supporting resources. Sometimes people cannot help how they feel, and if we can respect each others' right to disagree, instead of trying to browbeat them or "win" the debate, it tends to make things a lot more pleasant.

JL - posted on 02/06/2010

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What I look for in a debate is the opprotunity to display my utter lack of brilliance and assert my awesomeness. Can I get a Hell ya. Come on .....you ladies no I am make the awe in awesome.



I'm in a cheeky mood. Whoop there it is:)

Isobel - posted on 02/06/2010

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I appreciate it when other are people being willing to concede good points when they are made.

I like disagreement! I prefer to debate with somebody who feels strongly and differently about a topic than I do.

and everything that Cassie said.

Cassie - posted on 02/06/2010

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People to not take issues personally.

Be able to back up ideas with facts or credible resources.

Overall respect given and received for both sides of the debate.

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