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Sharon - posted on 04/24/2010 ( 40 moms have responded )

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I'd like to ask "What childhood danger have you not heard about" but that is asinine, lol.

So could you list dangers you've heard of and educated your self on, please read the comments so you can see what is already listed.

If someone list a danger you've never heard of - could you mention it?

Airbags


carseats

hanging cords, windows, curtains, blinds...

solids to early

water to early/tomuch

keeping meds & chemicals away

upper story homes should have protected windows

pools/water/toilets/mopbuckets

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Jodi - posted on 04/27/2010

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I think my point is that there are risks with everything we do in life. It is our job to assess those risks and weigh them up in order to make a decision. We all make DIFFERENT decisions based on a range of variables. Your variables are different to mine, and so on.

Jodi - posted on 04/27/2010

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Well, shit, I'll just never walk across a road again then, because I "might" get hit by a bus.

Rosie - posted on 04/27/2010

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i have to disagree about the whole leaving the kid in the car is stupid thing. i think there are different situations like sharon has stated, like the fact that i have 3 kids, and carrying 3 kids in the freezing cold to go into a store for 1 minute is not my idea of better for my kids. where i live i've never heard of a carjacking, a gas station robbery or anything at all. sure someone could hit the car, but someone could hit the car while i'm driving too. theres actually more of a chance that i'll get into an accident, than somebody taking my kids, so does that mean i shouldn't drive at all with my kids? i figure the risks, and weigh them, and decide from there.

Sharon - posted on 04/27/2010

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I remember thinking long & hard about leaving the baby in the car. Waking him to just pay for gas seemed virtually painful. And he was a big heavy baby, placed in the safest spot in the car, the middle of the backseat, which meant my once broken back w/a curve would be supporting a LOT of awkward weight.



I judged each situation. Was the store busy? Would the car be in sight? Could I find a full service station instead? ( god I MISS fullservice stations!!!) Did I have cash? DId this store have a good debit card reader?



Sometimes I did leave my son in the car, sometimes I didn't.

Jodi - posted on 04/27/2010

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And I agree with Gillian on the leaving your kids in the car thing. I am really a believer that it is dependent on your situation. I am in Australia, and where I live, 1 minute to check a post box or pay for fuel in full view of your locked car which has an engine immobiliser anyway is not something I worried about. Yes, I know they can disable an engine immobiliser, but I'm thinking I'd have noticed before they did that.

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Car doors and other kids lol all three of my kids have at one point or another had the car door shut on their hands normally by one of their brothers lol. Also another one that really bugs me dogs left alone with small kids.

Jessica - posted on 04/27/2010

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oh dang, about the balcony kimberly. I guess I wouldn't have figured that my child (who has a big head) could fit through that size either. I dont have a balcony right now, but thanks for the future heads up!

Kimberly - posted on 04/27/2010

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ummmm...after my daughter fell 9 feet from our balcony/loft (thank God she was completely ok) I realized the spokes aren't close enough together! They are about 51/2 in. apart--which apparently isn't far enough! She is small for a 16 mo. old, but I wouldn't have thought she could fit through....just a warning for everyone!!!!

Shannon - posted on 04/27/2010

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Wow...a conversation that turns into a pissing contest about whos the better mother because someone does or doesn't leave her kids in the car?? Really? Are we adults or are we back in elementary school calling each other names because we don't like how someone else does things? If you do not agree with another mothers opinion that is fine but it does not give you the right to call that person lazy and negligent. We are all grownups be respectful!

Jodi - posted on 04/27/2010

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I have rolls of it here.......I buy in bulk. (I actually really do, LOL).



Maybe I should start ordering in the cotton wool too.....

Jessica - posted on 04/27/2010

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well ok then... as long as you're comfortably wrapped in bubble wrap, everything will be fine.

Jessica - posted on 04/27/2010

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Hmm... I think yall are crazy. All I have to say is "never say never." You know the whole "I'm 16 and want to sleep around... teen pregnancy will never happen to me!" BOOM! "I'm gonna have unprotected sex with random guys, STD's will never happen to me!" BOOM HIV... "I'm not going to wear my seatbelt, b/c I'm a safe driver, I'll never have a wreck!" BOOM - paralized. "I'm gonna drink & drive b/c I'm only tipsy and I do it all the time... I've never had a wreck" BOOM- you just killed a family of 3 with one on the way... and of course YOU survived b/c you were the idiot!

See... I don't care where you think you live... you need to be careful.

Dawn - posted on 04/27/2010

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Your kids will be ok in the car if
1) you lock the door
2) keep an eye on the car anyways
3) you just run in and out

I think the ones that say they call 911 cause the parent has run in to pay for gas should just mind their own buisness. Are these the same folks that will threaten to call 911 if they see you giving your child a swat in the grocery store.
Its called mind your own buisness.

Caitlin - posted on 04/27/2010

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Seriously. I don't live in the US.. When I fill up it's in the quiet suburbs where I live. I've never heard of a car jacking around here, even in montreal they are rare, and i'm almost 1.5 hours out of town.. Gas stations here don't carry more than 50$ cash at any time, they put higher amounts in a safe underneath the cash that the employees can't open, so it's not worth it to rob them, they have stickers stating that, if I wanted quick cash, i'd rob the grocery store next door, because they have a ton more cash. It's not like I fill it up at 2 in the morning ever, it's always the afternoon.



On top of it all, i'm reluctant to bring my 17 month old inside the gas station to pay anywyas, because she is allergic to basically all the junk they sell in there, and at that age they are very grabby, I don't want her to grab something she's allergic to and have a reaction just because I needed to pay my gas. Sometimes as opposed to calling someone a bad parent, you should think that there are possibly other reasons for what they do. That and taking my 2 month old out of the car and trying to hold my 17 month olds hand while walking across the parking lot to pay my gas, she could squirm free quite easily and bolt in front of a car before I could stop her, that's a darned sight more likely than the possibility of armed robbery! PUtting them in the stroller? The stroller doesn't fit throught the door of the store, (it being a double stroller and all) so they'd be left outside anyways!

Jodi - posted on 04/27/2010

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OMG Sharon!!! The potty training thing, that cracks me up. But I will warn you now.....it doesn't always stop. You have a boy right???

My step-son was a shocker at getting paper towel to clean up his messes. Instead of getting help, he would grab paper towel (NOT designed to be flushed) and clean up and try to flush it in the toilet. The problem with the plumbing in our house is that when one toilet is blocked......they all kind of gurgle. I had to hide the paper towel, but he STILL blocked it with toilet paper.

Lady - posted on 04/27/2010

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We don't really have car jaking in th UK or at least I've never heard of it, and I agree that if someones going to smash into your car then they'll do it if your in there or not. I don't leave my 1 year old in the car by himself to pay for petrol unless he's sleeping then I'm not going to wake him, but if there's more kids than just him in the car then I will leave them. I think leaving them for a minute while I pop in to pay, where I can see them at all times is a lot safer than trying to walk all four of them over a busy garage forecourt where they could a lot more easily get run down.
And yes you are entitled to your opinion but calling someone a lazy negligent parent because you don't agree with them is going a little far IMO.

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Caitlyn, your children are precious gifts and I think your attitude down right sucks. In fact I could care less if this post/thread gets removed, locked, or banned. Leaving your child unattended is lazy and neglectful. Nothing you will say can justify this as a good parenting practice and I guarantee as your kids get older and can begin to unbuckle seatbelts, you may find yourself in a serious situation. But, if you are content with your poor parenting decision and your husband is A-OK with it, then so be it. Be glad that I am not the parent calling 911 to report you. If you don't have a credit card, then go and get a pre-paid gift VISA gift card that is sold at almost every grocery store kiosk! I simply cannot fathom a parent intentionally neglecting their children when it can be 100% prevented.

OK, so to remain on topic- another issue is potty training- when kids shove too much toilet paper down the toilet! I highly recommend a great plunger!

Caitlin - posted on 04/27/2010

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I guess you are entitled to your opinion and all, but if you take the keys, lock the doors and run in for a second (even a minute) I really doubt the "robber" will run out, choose an old clunky mini van, break into it and then hot wire it to get away. You can be car jacked just as easily if you are there. The guy has got a gun and threatens to shoot you, really, the same thing is likely to happen either way.



Someone can smash into your car with you in it or out of it as well. I don't see how someone that's not paying attention is going to say "Oh my god there's a mother/father in that car, not i'm suddenly going to not smash into you". Just like those stupid "baby on board" stickers.. It's not going to keep you from getting rear ended. I don't drive more carefully behind a car with that sticker on their window (I don't drive like an idiot anywyas, but if I don't change my driving habits, I doubt someone else will). My daughters are 17 months and 2 months, and I'm not going to drag them out of the car for me to run in and pay my gas, I never will, I don't see it as being a necessary thing. If the line is so long inside the gas station, i'll go out and stand with my car until the massive amount of people leave (i've only everr had to wait for one person in front of me to pay my gas, so if it ever happened i'd be shocked). I don't think it makes me a horrible neglectful mom. I also don't have baby monitors, so when they are napping if I go outside to take out the trash of sweep the front walk and I can't hear them and they cry,t hey'll be fine, I doubt my house will spontaneously combust, and if there WERE to be a fire while i'm sweeping, I have smoke detectors that are loud enough to hear from outside and the batteries are checked seasonally and tested and abtteries are changed twice a year if they need it or not..

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Thank you for that about the lazy parenting for leaving your kids in the car I totally agree . We see way to much out here in Michigan aout car jacking and the parents run in real quick to pay in the gas station get car jacked and well the kids are in the car who's fault is that? I was trying to be nice earlier but well it has to be said . And alot of times these cases horrible things happen to the kids and the parents are on tv saying I was only in the station for a secion and well then they are begging to have their kids brought back unharmed and well you do feel bad for what has happened but lets be realistic my god you can be smart and protect your babies and take them every where and well if something does happen its not from you not being lazy or just being I dont know . side note( my husband does comment some times on how the parens should lose their rights if they do find the kids again and well he is in law enforcement ) this is a horrible thing and well it can be prevented or event I know some station have to help to if you are disbled and all you have to do is honk the horn or even if you dont want to do that go to a full service station then pay the extra be safe its worth it . Plus I do know how hard it is pulling kids in and out of the car I have 4 ages 9 boy 9 girl 17 months boy7 months girl my 2 older are not allowed to hold the babies outside cause of safety issues so its all me and I do just fine . And I am disabled.

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I read in one of my mags the other day that a toilet seat protector slammed the lid down on an unsuspecting toddler standing to pee and squished his penis :( So along those lines, all the attachments they make for you to anchor your furniture! We never had that stuff when we were growing up!!!



When we were getting ready to have our 2nd born I heard that you should not leave babies alone w/toddlers...I completely understand now! But at the time was a little confusing, not something I would have thought about.



I didn't know until having kids that there was different times you introduce allergen foods...like nut items, oranges, eggs, etc. I also would have never thought that peanut butter is a choking hazard although I've had enough PB&Js you would think that kind of thing is common sense, but there's just some things you don't put together in that context! Before kids I probably would have just thought about it like a PBJ you DEF have a glass of milk/water with! Choking hazard would DEF not have been the way I would have thought to describe it.

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Leaving babies/kids in a car even for a split second is never justifiably appropriate-even for a second. In that split second, ANYTHING can happen. A car can smash into your parked car. There could be a long line inside the gas station, causing your second to turn into minutes. There could be a robbery inside the gas station. And then there will be people like me who have called 911 when I noticed that there are children being left unattended while the parent goes in to pay. So if it means dragging kids into the gas station-then do it! Negligent poor lazy parenting!

So to remain on topic-other dangers include water beds, leaving the dog chow out (curious kids eat it and may choke if they are large kibble type of chow), letting small kids ride in the front seat, clothing with buttons that can fall off and the kid can pick it up and choke, a lot of the ride-on toys that don't have a seat belt or buckle and kids fall out of it, watching too much TV, and becoming an obese couch potato by age 5.

Amy - posted on 04/26/2010

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I would have to say my big things are recalls ( I actually have a subscription to consumer reports to get notifications on ALL recalls) and stranger danger, I am so freaked out (lots of bad personal experiences) that I have made sure that my 3yr old can wipe his own tush and can wash himself properly without any help, now he KNOWS that nobody should be touching his privates (unless it's his doctor and mommy or daddy are present)and nobody should ever show him their private areas.

I know mine is probably pretty out there,but if it hadn't been for my personal experience, I would have the same "not us" mentality my mom originally had.

Caitlin - posted on 04/26/2010

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Danielle - i;ve keft my kids in the car alone before.. When I fill up at the gas station, I have to go in and pre pay before I pump and since I dont have a credit card, I cant just swipe it outside, but it would be insane to drag 2 babies in just so I can hand the guy 40$ and run back out (I never leave the keys in the car, thats insane). Otherwise everything I do is drive thru or they come in with me!

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Well I have 2 preemies and well the biggest thing is that bugs the hell out of me is covering up your baby's face when you go outside tt can cause so many problems and when my daughter was released from the nicu one of the nicu nurses told us about a baby that cae in unresponceive and it was cause his face was covered up in the carrier putting a blanket over the carrier is soo asking for danger. the poor family lost that baby because they thought they were doing the right thing but instead they killed him. also the other putting toys on the carrier they can strangle the baby if they fall off r if in a car crash it can hit the baby so no toys on the seat or near the seat . these totally scares me and well people do it so much and babies get hurt alot . oh another leaving babies or kids in a car even for a sec alone what the hell that is just plain stupid..

Lady - posted on 04/26/2010

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Baby walkers - make children bow legged or gives them the ability to reach things of danger! DOH! Move things out their way or watch them, and don't leave them in there for hours on end. Plus flexes hanging over counters, kettle, toaster, iron that sort of thing. So much of it is just common sense but like has been said before unfortuantley it's actually not all that common!

Charlie - posted on 04/25/2010

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Working in child care i had heard of a lot of dangers from the bleedingly obvious to the most ridiculous and having to constantly comb over our center for dangers everyday and children for appropriate footwear and clothing .

Most crazy one i heard was Crocs and thongs are a hazard to children and not permitted at school .

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how about the changing table itself?

Today in the church nursery my daughter and her little friend decided to climb on the changing table and it fell on them. The nursery worker about had a heart attack and now wants the thing out of there.

And how many times do we hear of crib recalls?

Lesson: don't buy cheap or outdated nursery furniture. Buy something stable made with solid wood. Or at least one that meets current standards (i.e. crib slats used to be further apart until babies starting sliding through and choking themselves.)

Caitlin - posted on 04/25/2010

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allergies (personal experience - risks of introducing new foods) by the way there are a dozen or so more related to allergies, but I'll generalize.

Smoking - more of a long term thing, but regardless

Co-sleeping and rolling over on your child (The postpartum nurse that came to check on me after #2 looked like she was going to grab my baby and run away because I mentioned that I slept with her on the lazyboy while she was in my arms - she said it was very dangerous)

Pretty much all the others I had considered - I used to work with younger children and know how they can get into almost anything in the blink of an eye.

Iris - posted on 04/25/2010

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I've heard all of the above (except for the bikinis and short shorts, lol) and would add:
Don't leave a child unattended on the changing table
Small objects

Jodi - posted on 04/24/2010

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I can't believe people will leave them unattended in the bath......I mean, how hard is it to just spend 5 or 10 minutes giving them a bath and staying there. Answering machines people!!!

I know of people who think if you have one of those bath seats you can leave them unattended too. I wouldn't dream of it.

Sharon - posted on 04/24/2010

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Oh yeah BATHTUBS!! Omg - how many times have we read, as expectant moms, in the 10,000 free baby mags we get "DO NOT LEAVE YOUR CHILD UNATTENDED FOR EVEN A MINUTE! IN THE BATHTUB!!""

I actually hated that article because I thought it was sooo stupid. Now there is some moron running around looking to "educate" people to the danger of leaving babies in the bath while you go off to make your waxing appointment. I hate her.

Jodi - posted on 04/24/2010

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I agree Sharon, I am often astounded at some of the lack of realisation of what will be dangerous.



However, I will say, I didn't go out of my way to read or specifically educate myself. I guess, being the oldest of a family of 5 kids gave me a lot of common sense about these things, it was really just what I though everyone did, but seriously, a lot of it is common sense.



That second floor window thing has been a fairly big one here in Australia, because even public housing hasn't put locks/protection on second floor windows. I didn't realise, because to me its always been a no brainer.



I think the other thing I could add, which is something really simple a lot of people forget.....the locks on the inside of bathroom doors. I disabled all of these once my kids were mobile and could possibly reach them, because I worried myself sick about them locking themselves IN the bathroom and not being able to get out. Yeah, privacy is out the window. But I still have those locks disable because the youngest is 5 and I still worry she may have issues getting out if I reinstate the locks.....

Rosie - posted on 04/24/2010

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moving pots , pans handles away while cooking

turning the carseat around to early

being around animals

bathtubs

guns



and apparantly we must not let our girls run around in a bikini, or short shorts-they'll get raped. (sarcasm btw)

Sharon - posted on 04/24/2010

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I think THIS forum is fairly roundly educated. I am not a child care professional, I never went out of my way to dig out strange childhood dangers and yet, I'm continually amazed and frustrated by the newstories where some poor child is crippled or killed because a parent "didn't know" he could fall out of the second floor window, didn't know drinking chlorox is bad, didn't realize putting an infants crib in a window could chill/heat them/expose them to cords.... honestly really?

I swear, I do NOT think I'm a genius but sometimes... I read this stuff and I think... DAMN I'm amazing!!!

Jodi - posted on 04/24/2010

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Stairs and gates (lots of issues in our house with those, so I had every avenue covered).

Isobel - posted on 04/24/2010

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I heard about and educated myself about all except the water thing...it never occurred to me to do anything other than breastfeed and then use formula...anyhoo

I would add electrical sockets and stairs, hotdogs and grapes (choking)

:) ... school project for one of the kids?

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