republican lawmaker wants to redefine rape victims as rape accusors.....

Rosie - posted on 02/21/2011 ( 8 moms have responded )




so what do you think? should we protect the accused rapists rights, or the victim/accusors rights? victims of robberies, assault, and fraud are convienantly left out of this proposal, just leaving those who were victims of rape or domestic abuse (mostly women) to not claim the title of victim.


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Katherine - posted on 02/22/2011




That's just making it like any other crime. Just like a murderer is "the accused." I think it should be "survivor(s)."
Accusor is diluting the act entirely.

Natasha - posted on 02/22/2011




This makes me absolutely sick. Why, on God's green Earth would a rapist get to have even more rights than the person who was raped? To attach the stigma of "accuser" to someone who has finally gotten up the courage to do something about the horrific act that was commited against them is totally ludicus.

A victim is a victim, whether there is a conviction or not. I have no words. Just simply no words can express my disgust.

Angela - posted on 02/22/2011




Absolutley not! We should not protect the rapists rights at all...The victims rights are what need to be adressed and protected.

"Rape and sexual assault are chronically underreported crimes. According to the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network, "60% of rapes/sexual assaults are not reported to the police, according to a statistical average of the past 5 years. Those rapists, of course, never spend a day in prison. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 6% of rapists ever serve a day in jail." Under Franklin's definition, all of these people who didn't report their crimes aren't actually victims -- because there is never a conviction."

obviously mr bobby franklin has never studied the psychology of a rap victim.

60% off the incidents arent reported because the victim will feel guilty or be in denial of the incident,along with other factors.

"Some of the psychological and emotional reactions a sexual assault survivor may experience include:

Denial and/or guilt;

Shame or humiliation;

Fear and a feeling of loss of control;

Loss of self-respect;

Flashbacks to the attack;

Anger and anxiety;

Retaliation fantasies (sometimes shocking the survivor with their graphic violence);

Nervous or compulsive behavior;

Depression and mood swings;

Withdrawal from relationships; and

Changes in sexual activity."

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Rosie - posted on 02/22/2011




i really think it's the pro-life camp trying to make abortion illegal. since those on medicaid don't get to have medicaid pay for the abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or to save a mothers life. So, if you are a woman and you are dependent on the government for healthcare, you cannot exercise your right to choose unless you can prove you were the victim of terrible crime or the physical stress of carrying a child for nine months will literally kill you.

Yet, the majority of republicans in the House are unsure whether the hoops women are currently jumping through are sufficient to protect tax-payer money. And that's why House Speaker John Boehner made the "No Tax Payer for Abortion Act" a priority last month.

Proposed by Rep. Chris Smith (which this proposal failed, thank god) , rape would only pertain to "forcible" rape. Statutory rape between an adult man and minor would not count and coverage in cases of incest would only pertain to victims who were under the age of 18.

so not only are they trying to take away a victims right to be called a victim, they are also trying to make date rape, coersed rape, or women who are drugged and raped unable to qualify for the abortion legally under medicaid.

this game of taking away womens rights is sickening to say the least.

Tara - posted on 02/22/2011




Twenty steps backwards.
Where is the reasoning here? The compassion? Women will again be deterred from reporting rapes and assaults, when they are treated as if they might be lying, what incentive do they have to follow through on a report.
They have been victimized, therefore they are victims.
I am a "survivor" of sexual abuse, some people say I am a victim, but I'm not anymore, now I survived the abuse.

Iridescent - posted on 02/22/2011




This goes right back to the old belief that if the woman became pregnant, it wasn't rape, because pregnancy can only occur when she wanted the sex and enjoyed it. Nice.

"One of the most enduring rape myths is the belief that a woman cannot be raped against her will. This idea has its orgins in science and the law. In regard to science, medieval physicians and scientists believed that women had to achieve orgasm in order to conceive a child. Therefore, if a woman was raped and authorities later discovered her pregnant, then her accusations were discounted, and she bore the blame for her condition. Although the medical theories surrounding female orgasm and pregnancy began to wane in the seventeenth century, medical literature continued to doubt the veracity of women's claims of rape."


Johnny - posted on 02/21/2011




I wonder how he would feel about it if it were his wife or daughter that was the accuser and not a victim? How callous. By changing the wording in regards to crimes that are generally perpetrated against women by men, it reinforces the notion, that some people still cling to, that sexual assaults, rapes, etc. aren't really crimes. They're just men getting their needs met. I'm sure this won't pass, but I sure hope that the women of his district make sure that this is the end to his pitiful career. What a jerk!

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