Respect & The Elderly

?? - posted on 10/01/2009 ( 21 moms have responded )

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I am all for respecting the elderly. I open doors, I hold out chairs, I say ma'am and sir, I offer my assistance anytime I see an elderly person who seems like they are in need of a lil help. I also allow smelly barely audible old people to stop me on the street so they can say hello to my son and touch his lil foot or rub his fat cheek or whatever old people decide they want to do.



BUT I am SOOOOOO TIRED of OLD PEOPLE walkin all over people like they own the fuckin joint.



The other day I was standing in line at the good ole Wally World, there were 2 cashiers open, and about 12-13 people in line. They were side by side and people we making a line up across the aisle so that people could still walk past and continue on their shopping....



This stupid old bag, she walks on by OBVIOUSLY looking at the entire line up of people and her old stupid husband is walkin behind her with the cart. She stops, looks around, points into the one checkout and goes "quick quick go in there" AND BUTTS IN LINE!!!



The man in front of me looked at me, I looked at the lady behind me, and she looked at the man in front of me and we all kinda just stared for a minute.



It wasn't like it wasn't OBVIOUS there was a huge line up - 2 seconds before she went by there was another younger woman who thought there was another line up further on and was in the middle of turning around to go to the back of the line as the old bag was starting to butt in line.



I'm quite mouthy. Obviously. So I piped up. "I love it when people are fucking RUDE and cut in line." the old bag looked at me and I said "yea, talking to you Bitty Betty - didn't your mother teach you any fuckin manners?" she said "Obviously yours didn't."



I said "Yes she did, she taught me to show respect to everyone around me - UNLESS they can't show respect to me to begin with. And they say it's the young generations that have no respect - maybe its cause fat old bitches like you are the ones teaching them how to be rude."



She ignored me but kept looking over her shoulder as I continued to have a conversation with the man in front and the lady behind us - loud enough that she could hear us talkin about how its people like her that just prove the world is going to shit when someone can't even be polite enough to wait in line.



Just after this happened - the lady behind me - her cart was full of snacks, a balloon maker thing, some party favor type stuff and I just randomly said "Someone's havin a party!" Casual in line conversation and she gave me the in-a-hurry-sigh face and said "Yip, my daughters 5th. Starts in about 45 mins and I have about 25-30 mins of travel to get there." I told her to go ahead of me! No one wants to miss their kids birthday party!!!



It REALLY freakin gets to me when the elderly are ruder than the rudest rudie tudies but then are the first ones to bitch and complain about how it's the younger generations that are SO DAMN RUDE! Pfft.



I am wondering how many other people feel that old people are rude because they figure no one is gonna say anything anyways. I'm the type of person who calls everyone on their rudeness. Usually I don't bother, I'll mention it to my partner or mom or in my head - but when people do shit like that - it really irks me. I try my best to show respect to everyone - initially. And if the woman had just said "I'm in a hurry, mind if I butt in?" I would have said "nope by all means, go ahead!"

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Sara - posted on 10/05/2009

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Kind of off topic, but kinda goijng with what Joy was talking about...I was surprised how rude people were in public when I was pregnant. And I mean VERY pregnant, full on waddle stage. They would cut me off to walk in front of me and things like that...just blew my mind.

JL - posted on 10/02/2009

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I live on a military installation and have on more than one occassion gone off on some of the younger soldiers for their lack of manners and on the elderly retirees for their lack of respect. The other day I had a doctors appointment for both my kids..both were miserably sick and here I am pushing a stroller with a loud complaining screaming sick 2 year old in it and with my loud complaining crying 6 year old dragging along side me.



So I did the butt push to open the door...you moms know what I am talking about...hands are full and you are pushing a stroller and dragging kids along so you back up and push the door open with your butt and then try to shove the stroller through the door while you continue to hold the door open with your butt.



Well while trying to push the stroller through and drag my daughter in while attempting to keep the door open....3 young soldiers probably no older than 20 walked right through the door as if all my struggling to open it and keep it open was for their benefit. Not one of them stopped to hold the door open for me or offer any assistance..NO they just walked right through the door that I was barely keeping open..WTF?! I called them to attention, asked them who their commander was and what unit they belonged to so I could report them for being douchbags. I was so mad. I gave them a lecture on manners and when one tried to get an attitude I quickly informed him of my husband's rank which made him straighten up real fast and then at the end of my tirade an older and higher ranking soldier walked up held the door for me and then made the younger soldiers commence to stand at parade arrest and then he continued lecturing them about manners and respect.



It is ust ridiculous how bad some peoples manner are. My 6 year old daughter holds doors open for people and both my kids including my 2 year old say excuse me, thank you, your welcome, please, no sir, yes sir, no maam, yes maam. They know not to cut in line and how to speak to people.

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I can also understand not wanting to wait in line, or having pain doing so etc etc etc But DUDE! It's not easy waiting in a long line with children, back pain, pregnancy, etc Who knows who has what, and frankly who cares? If you don't want to wait in a crazy long line start by NOT shopping at walmart!!! There are plenty of other stores that have smaller lines! I personally don't expect to get in and out of walmart EVER! For this same reason a woman was charged w/child neglect or some crap for leaving her child in the car while she "quickly" ran in to a Target to get sun screen on a hot day. Because you can NOT guarantee that you will be in and out in a damn department store like that, are you crazy? Having pain or some other BS is NOT an excuse to cut in line and be a rude jackass!!! Frankly, of ALL people the elderly should know better! Shame on them!!!

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I can see it from the older persons perspective. It's not easy waiting in line and standing around if you're old. I know thats not an excuse for rudeness, but I don't blame them for wanting to get in and out of the store.



I don't think people just become rude as they get old. They started out as rude young people.

Johnny - posted on 10/01/2009

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LOL. We have a certain genre (ethnic group) of old people around here that have the reputation of being extremely rude. Butting in lines, spitting, even stealing stuff occasionally. Everyone bitches about it, particularly the youth of that specific ethnic group, probably because they are embarrassed (ironically their youth are amongst the most polite). The thing that really disgusts me is that they will occasionally spit indoors. Like in the grocery store. RUDE and GROSS! On Monday, I say a woman do it in the produce section and I lost it. I am NOT good at confrontation, but this was just beyond all reason. I marched up to her and asked her what the hell she was doing. She pretended not to speak english and shuffled away. I followed her across the store repeatedly asking her if she really thought that it was acceptable to spit indoors? I made sure every person I passed could hear me. I eventually gave up and finished shopping. She was at the next checkout when I got to the counter, I decided to not bother anymore, because she was so goddamn obtuse. However, I guess other people had heard me, and the old guy in front of her in line tattled to the manager who happened to be packing bags. The manager, spoke to her in her language and they had one hell of an argument. It was awesome. I'm guessing she won't do it again. I hope. Unbelievable!

My hubby takes the bus a few mornings a week with our daughter. She does not walk, so he is carrying her and the diaper bag and his own backpack. On more than a few occasions he's had to ask some dumb punk kid to move out of the "reserved for elderly or people with children" seats so he could sit down.

But by and large, most people in the neighborhood I live in are incredibly well-mannered and polite. I can't say the same for the entire city though. There are a lot of very wealthy people here and it seems that the level of manners is in inverse proportion to the level of wealth, on average. When I was a welfare advocate, I met some pretty down and out folks who understood proper manners. At the time, I lived in a posh hood that was full of people who couldn't even be bothered to hold the door open for each other.

Lindsay - posted on 10/01/2009

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I try to respect everyone until given a reason not to. That includes elderly but is not limited to them by any means. I tend to lack respect for people that feel like they deserve special treatment or demand it. I'm more than happy to help people or let someone step in front of me in line but my feeling is respect should be given on both sides, not just one or the other.

Krista - posted on 10/01/2009

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Okay, I have to share a story about the RUDEST person I have ever met...and she was not elderly...she's 19. My younger brother got married this past weekend and his new wife is a sweet, kind, respectful girl...but she has some bad taste in friends! One of her bridesmaids was the most immature, rude girl I have ever had the displeasure of speaking with. I met her a couple months ago when I went shopping with my SIL and her two bridesmaids to help them find dresses for the wedding. They found so many great dresses that my SIL loved, but the bridesmaid wanted more cleavage and more leg visible...so they were all out. They finally had to settle on a really short, really low cut (way too low cut for a wedding) dress at the last store in the mall, and she bought one that was several sizes too small for her. She ruined what should have been a fun day for my SIL. Than, at the wedding, all she could do was complain...it's too cold out, there's too many stairs here, blah...blah...Then, at the reception, when she was served her meal (everyone ate the same chicken dish, which was really good) she turned her nose up at the waitress, and said in front of my SIL's parents (who were paying for the meal) that it looked horrible and it definitely wasn't something she would order. Then she sat there and picked at it and moved it around on her plate. She even gave the waitress shit for not refilling her water soon enough. Needless to say, she and my SIL are not on speaking terms anymore. What the hell is wrong with some people???

Charlie - posted on 10/01/2009

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YES ! i was just having this conversation last night , my sister and friend both work at a nursing home and i was just saying they are better people than me i for one could not do it , while i respect my elders , i only give respect when respect is due.

I sometimes feel old people think just because they are old the world owes them something and they can behave like tantrum throwing children .

Sharon - posted on 10/01/2009

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Its illegal here too. Its a profanity & vulgarity law. You can't flip people off, tell them to fuck off, etc. The problem is a cop has to see it or several people have to witness it etc for anyone to be published.

Jodi - posted on 10/01/2009

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Wow Katherine!! I'm pretty sure it's not illegal here because you hear it all the time. I don't have an issue with someone swearing randomly, we all do it occasionally, and I have taught my children not to repeat these things, because they do hear them all the time out at the shops (especially from the teenagers that hang around there). But swearing AT someone, and especially a child, to me is totally NOT okay.

?? - posted on 10/01/2009

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If it's illegal to swear in front of women and children - women need to toughen up and children - well... to each their own on that one. I cuss in front of my son and I will cuss if I'm pissed off - I generally take a peek around to see if there are children besides my own that are within earshot.



It's only the polite thing to do afterall - and I freakin try to be polite!



FFS that shit really grinds my gears.

Katherine - posted on 10/01/2009

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Quoting Jodi:



Quoting Katherine:




Quoting Jodi:

I don't think it is just old people, I think it is people in general. Some people are just brought up to be rude and disrespectful. I hate it when people butt in, and I also speak up (must admit, not QUITE so colourfully as you Jo, you just cracked me up!!). But I also often let people in front of me, but it is only polite to ask rather than just push in. Even when I've taken my toddlers to the toilet and they are busting, I race into the toilets shouting, does anyone mind if we push in, sorry but my toddler is about to pee his/her pants!!! Most people don't mind at all, as long as you are polite about it and it really is a legitimate reason.

I was in the supermarket one day and at the register in the express lane getting my groceries out of my basket. It turned out my daughter (she was about 3 at the time) had moved a little and was kind of in the way of a woman with a pram and 2 kids. It wasn't intentional. A little "excuse me please" would have worked. But no, this woman had to shout at my daughter "will you fuckin move kid?". WELL!!! I spun around and said "I beg your pardon!!!" She said "You fuckin heard me!". I said "Yes I did, and if you feel speaking to your children that way is okay, then that's your business, but don't you speak to my children that way". This woman walked off cursing and carrying on. Seriously!! All it would have taken was a little "excuse me".







Are you serious????  I would have knocked her into next week!!!!!!  That is horrible.  Here in the states it's illegal to swear in front of woman and children, she would have been hauled away.










I felt like it, I was so angry.  The supermarket staff were all apologetic to me, telling me it was uncalled for and so on, I think they were in shcok too, but apparently she was well known to them, LOL. 






Is it really illegal to swear there in that way?  WOw! 





YES!!!!  At least in Michigan, it's an old law, but is being used quite often because of scenarios like yours

?? - posted on 10/01/2009

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Yea it's not JUST old people - but around here it seems that the old farts are the ones who are bitchin about the young people being the rude ones. I have not met one single rude walmart employee that is younger than middle aged. No joke. Okay wait that's a lie - there was one but she was my old employee and she quit because I didn't tolerate her rudie attutudie!



I hate rude people, but I hate OLD rude people who are rude ON PURPOSE cause they're old and figure no one is gonna say anything cause it's rude to be 'disrespectful' to the elderly.



Blow me. If you're gonna be rude. I'm gonna tell you that you're rude.



If you don't like it - DON'T BE RUDE!!!!!!!!

Jodi - posted on 10/01/2009

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Quoting Katherine:



Quoting Jodi:

I don't think it is just old people, I think it is people in general. Some people are just brought up to be rude and disrespectful. I hate it when people butt in, and I also speak up (must admit, not QUITE so colourfully as you Jo, you just cracked me up!!). But I also often let people in front of me, but it is only polite to ask rather than just push in. Even when I've taken my toddlers to the toilet and they are busting, I race into the toilets shouting, does anyone mind if we push in, sorry but my toddler is about to pee his/her pants!!! Most people don't mind at all, as long as you are polite about it and it really is a legitimate reason.

I was in the supermarket one day and at the register in the express lane getting my groceries out of my basket. It turned out my daughter (she was about 3 at the time) had moved a little and was kind of in the way of a woman with a pram and 2 kids. It wasn't intentional. A little "excuse me please" would have worked. But no, this woman had to shout at my daughter "will you fuckin move kid?". WELL!!! I spun around and said "I beg your pardon!!!" She said "You fuckin heard me!". I said "Yes I did, and if you feel speaking to your children that way is okay, then that's your business, but don't you speak to my children that way". This woman walked off cursing and carrying on. Seriously!! All it would have taken was a little "excuse me".





Are you serious????  I would have knocked her into next week!!!!!!  That is horrible.  Here in the states it's illegal to swear in front of woman and children, she would have been hauled away.






I felt like it, I was so angry.  The supermarket staff were all apologetic to me, telling me it was uncalled for and so on, I think they were in shcok too, but apparently she was well known to them, LOL. 



Is it really illegal to swear there in that way?  WOw! 

Katherine - posted on 10/01/2009

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:0 You are too nice!!!! But like they say, what goes around comes around

Jodi - posted on 10/01/2009

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I remember being pregnant (heavily) on a train one day and no-one stood up to give me a seat! I think I deserved a medal for keeping my balance, but I was so disapointed that not a single person bothered. I ended up asking teenage boy with his mother if I could please have a seat.

Katherine - posted on 10/01/2009

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Quoting Jodi:

I don't think it is just old people, I think it is people in general. Some people are just brought up to be rude and disrespectful. I hate it when people butt in, and I also speak up (must admit, not QUITE so colourfully as you Jo, you just cracked me up!!). But I also often let people in front of me, but it is only polite to ask rather than just push in. Even when I've taken my toddlers to the toilet and they are busting, I race into the toilets shouting, does anyone mind if we push in, sorry but my toddler is about to pee his/her pants!!! Most people don't mind at all, as long as you are polite about it and it really is a legitimate reason.

I was in the supermarket one day and at the register in the express lane getting my groceries out of my basket. It turned out my daughter (she was about 3 at the time) had moved a little and was kind of in the way of a woman with a pram and 2 kids. It wasn't intentional. A little "excuse me please" would have worked. But no, this woman had to shout at my daughter "will you fuckin move kid?". WELL!!! I spun around and said "I beg your pardon!!!" She said "You fuckin heard me!". I said "Yes I did, and if you feel speaking to your children that way is okay, then that's your business, but don't you speak to my children that way". This woman walked off cursing and carrying on. Seriously!! All it would have taken was a little "excuse me".


Are you serious????  I would have knocked her into next week!!!!!!  That is horrible.  Here in the states it's illegal to swear in front of woman and children, she would have been hauled away.

Jodi - posted on 10/01/2009

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I don't think it is just old people, I think it is people in general. Some people are just brought up to be rude and disrespectful. I hate it when people butt in, and I also speak up (must admit, not QUITE so colourfully as you Jo, you just cracked me up!!). But I also often let people in front of me, but it is only polite to ask rather than just push in. Even when I've taken my toddlers to the toilet and they are busting, I race into the toilets shouting, does anyone mind if we push in, sorry but my toddler is about to pee his/her pants!!! Most people don't mind at all, as long as you are polite about it and it really is a legitimate reason.



I was in the supermarket one day and at the register in the express lane getting my groceries out of my basket. It turned out my daughter (she was about 3 at the time) had moved a little and was kind of in the way of a woman with a pram and 2 kids. It wasn't intentional. A little "excuse me please" would have worked. But no, this woman had to shout at my daughter "will you fuckin move kid?". WELL!!! I spun around and said "I beg your pardon!!!" She said "You fuckin heard me!". I said "Yes I did, and if you feel speaking to your children that way is okay, then that's your business, but don't you speak to my children that way". This woman walked off cursing and carrying on. Seriously!! All it would have taken was a little "excuse me".

Katherine - posted on 10/01/2009

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Ok, so I work with geriatrics, but I can still appreciate where you are coming from. In fact I was in front of an old man and was having problems with EVERYTHING, this isn't going through, that's not on sale blah blah. I turn around and the little guy has one item, so I said "I'm soooo sorry I should have let you go ahead of me." You know what he says? "Well it's a little to late for that!!!" stomp. I had already gotton to my car, loaded my groceries and was pulling out when I saw him walking through the parking lot. Can you imagine what I was thinking? It's not all old people, it's some. Tell you what those teenagers are something else these days. Holy crap. I could have smacked the s*** out of a couple of them. I help people, old, young, disabled, whatever but I hear you.

Katherine - posted on 10/01/2009

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Quoting Sharon:

I have pointedly told people "The line is back THERE" and been ignored.

I allow people to go in front of me all the time. Its rare I only have a couple of items and if I'm next and I see some frantic (you can always see it on their faces!) with a basket in hand I'll let them go in front of me, no problem. I'll hold up the cashier, push my items back and let them go ahead.

I'll help people who look bewildered, those people rushing up and down an aisle muttering themselves, people in wheel chairs who are fumbling with their "reach" sticks, but when someone torks me off - omg... get out of the way.

The other day I was in a rush and I have NO idea wtf was taking so long but FORTY FIVE MINUTES in the EXPRESS LANE. I GOT MEAN. No friggen idea what the problem was but when the cashier asks "did you find everything ok?" "fuck no! I was trying to find the express lane but I found you!" the look on his face. I wanted to slap the shit out of him.

Old people are rude, young people are rude, and if they're rude they are BRAZEN about it.


Sharon, you are by far one of the funniest people I have ever encountered



 

Sharon - posted on 10/01/2009

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I have pointedly told people "The line is back THERE" and been ignored.



I allow people to go in front of me all the time. Its rare I only have a couple of items and if I'm next and I see some frantic (you can always see it on their faces!) with a basket in hand I'll let them go in front of me, no problem. I'll hold up the cashier, push my items back and let them go ahead.



I'll help people who look bewildered, those people rushing up and down an aisle muttering themselves, people in wheel chairs who are fumbling with their "reach" sticks, but when someone torks me off - omg... get out of the way.



The other day I was in a rush and I have NO idea wtf was taking so long but FORTY FIVE MINUTES in the EXPRESS LANE. I GOT MEAN. No friggen idea what the problem was but when the cashier asks "did you find everything ok?" "fuck no! I was trying to find the express lane but I found you!" the look on his face. I wanted to slap the shit out of him.



Old people are rude, young people are rude, and if they're rude they are BRAZEN about it.

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