Same sex schools.

Jocelyn - posted on 02/08/2010 ( 11 moms have responded )

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Apparently there has been talk about forming an all-boys school in Calgary, which got me thinking.
What are your feelings towards this? Have any of you attended an all-girls school?

One of the big things they kept stressing was that it would lower distractions in the class room. I can see this working (say junior high when all the boys are hormonal and crazy) but to go your whole school age life without really having the chance to interact with the opposite sex (in a learning environment) , I don't really understand how that could be beneficial. I find if very important to interact with all different types of people, opposite sex included. Boys and girls learn differently and being able to learn together seems to me that they would be able to bounce ideas off each other, see the others point of view.
Another point that I was thinking of is if they are so concerned with the boys being distracted, would they allow any gay boys? I would think that (to a straight homophobic 14 year old, because lets face it, 14 year old boys generally tend to be a bit homophobic, in my experience anyways) having another guy hitting on you would be much more of a distraction and could create many more (different) problems than if it was just a girl. Are opposite sex teachers allowed? What if it was a gay same sex teacher? Would you put you child in a same sex school?
Having a same sex school seems so old fashioned to me. It just seems like plain old segregation, like an all white school.

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I think it's a good thing to separate older boys and girls because they're too much of a distraction to each other. I think it's better to split them up just for classes rather than having same sex schools. The problem with same sex schools is the risk of the curriculum making subtle changes that are significant enough to result in an unequal education.

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The district I live in mandated uniforms the year I was a senior, so I've always had a little hatred towards them. In my 17 year old mind, they were taking away my freedom!

But when I taught in the same district, I was thankful for them. It was so easy to make sure the kids were dressed appropriatly and free dress day was a reward the kids actually worked hard to earn. It was also easy to help less fortunate kids have clothes to wear at school. The office kept uniforms in all sizes on hand for kids that were in need.

And I also love Laura's idea about separating boys and girls for Language and math!

Charlie - posted on 02/10/2010

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Laura , i went to a mixed school and only our maths , English and Phys Ed classes were same sex !!

Jocelyn - posted on 02/10/2010

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Ooh I like Laura's idea as well :) Well, except for the uniforms part lmao.

ME - posted on 02/09/2010

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I like Laura's idea...segregate the sexes for math and english, and keep them together for everything else...I also think that uniforms in public schools are a wonderful idea!

Isobel - posted on 02/09/2010

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I haven't read any of the other threads yet but here's my two cents...I think schools should be segregated for ONLY math and english (since it is proven that the two sexes learn these things entirely differently) Teachers could tailor their message to their audience more completely and have more students understand more points. But seeing each other in other classes (home ec, and history, etc) would settle them down a little. I also wish they had uniforms here.

Lindsay - posted on 02/09/2010

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I went to Catholic school as well (daycare through 12th) but in our district, it was all co-ed. I enjoyed it being co-ed but I can definately see the benefits of same-sex schools as well. I have a cousin about the same age that went to an all boy Catholic school in Louisville. I can remember asking him if it was horrible because I that stage in my life I couldn't understand how that would be a good thing at all. I was suprised to find out that he absolutely loved being split up. His situation sounds similar to what Mary was referring to with the mixers on the weekends with the brother/sister schools and the extra-cirriculars. He had a very positive environment as did I.



I am lucky enough to live in a district with a great public school system and that's where my children do and will continue to attend. But if I ever feel that they are getting less than they need, I won't blink an eye to enroll them in the Catholic school system here!

Mary - posted on 02/09/2010

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I am the happy product of 12 years of Catholic schools. Grades 1-8 were co-ed, high school was all-girls. I LOVED it!! I also hope to do the same for my daughter as well (most likely in the same schools I attended). Baltimore is a bit of a unique place, in that we have an unusually high number of same-sex high schools (mostly Catholic), so that may be why it works so well here.



I entered HS having spent the first 8 years interacting with the opposite sex. All of the Catholic HS's have "mixers" with each other on weekends, so there are plenty of opportunities to meet and interact with the opposite sex, not to mention your friend's brothers (and his friends). There are several inter-school extracurricular activities, like plays, chorus, debate teams, and community service projects that are done with our "brother" schools. I NEVER felt as if I didn't have enough interactions with boys (my mother would tell you it may have been too much, lol!). As well, we all travelled to each other's big sporting events...the guys were always at the lacrosse/basketball/soccer matches between the big rivalries, and we went to theirs as well. In fact, I still try to attend the Thanksgiving Day football game between my brother schools...it's a HUGE social event for both students and alum that is held in a profressional arena.



From an academic and social perspective, I would say I found it to be empowering and liberating. It greatly diminishes the obsessions with appearance, since we were all wearing the same hideous uniforms....I rolled into class with my wet head tied in a knot, and I didn't ever bother with make-up during the week. It also allowed you speak more freely, since you weren't worried about what that boy you liked might think. Girls held all of the positions of power, from Student Council or class president, to newspaper editor and chair of the Student Athletic Association. Those nuns gave us the clear message that there was NOTHING a woman couldn't accomplish. They also worked REALLY hard at eliminating that catty, cliquey behavior that an all-girls school can foster, and they were quite successful at it. To this day, I am still in touch with more than half of my class of 120 girls, and I would happily sit down and have lunch with almost any of those whom I've lost track of. Most of the guys I knew back then I am still in touch with as well, and they all speak warmly of their alma maters. I think it speaks volumes that the majority of us who still live in the area either already have, or plan to send our children to the schools we attended if at all financially possible.

Jodi - posted on 02/09/2010

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My son attends a same sex school. It is a Catholic college which covers boys from year 4-12. It contains 2 separate school, a Junior school for Year 4-6, and then a senior school for years 7-12. I does have opposite sex teachers, and I even work in the tuckshop occasionally as a volunteer, where it is mostly women working. They have a particular dresscode for any women working in the school, simply because of the raging teenage boy hormones, LOL. So no low cut tops, no skimpy clothes, showing too much skin, etc......



I have actually been really happy with the school, and my son loves it. As we all know, boys and girls learn differently, and at a boys school, they are teaching in a way that suits the boys. They have a fantastic sports program, and the kids get a lot of opportunity for physical outlet because it does help them learn better when they are in class.



I do know that same sex school enviornments are not for all kids. Some do better in a co-ed environment. I know some boys who would never have fit into the environment my son is in, but that is probably more because it is VERY structured (and most boys LOVE structure, but some don't), and they just wouldn't thrive in that environment.



Funnily enough, there were studies done recently that showed that boys actually perform better in a co-ed environment, while girls do better in a same sex environment. I haven't read the study, I just heard the summary on a news program a few weeks ago. I always believed it would be the other way around (because we all know how bitchy girls get when they get together), but apparently not. I've been meaning to look it up one of these day because I still have a daughter to decide for, LOL. But in all honesty, I am happy with the all boy school my son is in, and he is also very happy. So far so good.



As an end note, my husband also went to a boys' Catholic college and now, as an adult, he feels it was the right thing for him, and is very happy with the education he received there.

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Our public school district did separate boys and girls into all boys and all girls classes in the sixth grade. They tried it for a year and the teachers hated it. They said the girls were too catty without the boys and the boys were too rambunctious without the girls.



Same sex Catholic schools are prevelant here. I didn't attend one, I went to public. My daughter will go to public school also because we live in the best school district in our state. However, if we lived in another district or in the city, I would consider the private/parochial schools. The same sex Catholic schools in the city have the best reputation for academics and athletics so they wouldn't be out of the question except that they are incredibly expensive.



So to answer your question, it depends on what your other options are. If it came down to sending my child to a failing public school or an expensive same sex Catholic school, I would chose the Catholic school. It wouldn't be ideal, but better than the alternative. As it is, I'm happy with the public school district we live in.

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