Scientology

Katherine - posted on 02/12/2011 ( 28 moms have responded )

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Ordinarily, the Church of Scientology is shrouded in secrecy and intrigue. That's exactly why a brand new expose on the group -- which makes some frank, not to mention startling, accusations against some of its famous members including Tom Cruise and John Travolta -- is proving to be such a page-turner.

The article published in this week's The New Yorker focuses on Crash director Paul Haggis and his decision to quit the (his word) cult after 34 years. But in the telling of his story, author Lawrence Wright divulges some seriously frightening details about the organization that were told to him by the church's defectors during his investigation.

And let me just preface this by saying, it's much worse than jumping up and down like a crazy person on a couch ...

By far the most shocking information to come out of the piece is that the FBI is investigating whether the Church of Scientology has engaged in human trafficking and has enslaved members.

John Brosseau, a member who has since left the church, said he was involved in several hours of unpaid labor for Cruise. Specifically, he was asked to perform several jobs for Cruise -- customizing motorcycles, repairing an airplane hangar -- which should have cost thousands of dollars; yet, he was only paid $50 a week.

Both Cruise and the church have denied these allegations. Here's a statement from church spokesman Tommy Davis:

Church staff, and indeed Church members, hold Mr. Cruise in very high regard and are honored to assist him. Whatever small economic benefit Mr. Cruise may have received from the assistance of church staff pales in comparison to the benefits the church has received from Mr. Cruise's many years of volunteer efforts for the church.

And with so many celebrity backers in the Church of Scientology, one can only suspect there might be more stories just like this one.

Other claims made by the magazine are a bit more murky:

One of the church leaders, David Miscavige -- who was best man at Cruise's and Katie Holmes' wedding -- is accused of repeated physical violence and punishments (including beatings, confinement, and manual labor) toward staff and members.

Other defectors complained that they were told to disown friends and family who criticize Scientology under the church's notorious "disconnection" policies.

The Church of Scientology for its part is denying the claims and dismissing them as being made by "discredited individuals" who held a grudge against them.

Truth be told, the article is high on allegations and low on actual proof beyond the defectors' testimonies. But if it doesn't give you nightmares, then I don't know what will.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/... Article in the New Yorker

What are your thoughts? Is Scientology THAT bad?

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Sara - posted on 02/13/2011

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Honestly, I don't think the Chruch of Scientology's beliefs are any crazier than Christians, Mormons, Jews, Muslims or any other religion. It's just newer. In a 1000 years it'll have just as much street cred as any other religion.

Kate CP - posted on 02/12/2011

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It was a drunken bet placed by L. Ron Hubbard with a friend of his. He said "I bet I can create a religion and get a mass following" and it's based on his fictional books. It was recognized as a "religion" by the us in 1993 after the IRS said that they were religious organization and not a commercial one. There is also some dispute about whether or not the IRS officials who were investigating the "church's" tax status were blackmailed into this finding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology...

It's a cult. :P

Sharon - posted on 02/13/2011

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They're a buncha fucknuts.

ANY religion that tells you/forces you to push away non believing family members and lifelong friends - is a CULT.

Petra - posted on 02/13/2011

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It doesn't follow the regular, accepted religious trends and is relatively new, but I don't think the premise of Scientology is any more far fetched than any other religion. All religions are cults, some are just really, really widespread and societally accepted.

Jessica - posted on 02/12/2011

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lol, I agree with Laura, they are all nutty in my eyes, and I truely believe all organized religion to be very cultish and kinda nuts.

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April - posted on 02/14/2011

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what Kate said! they have some "out there" ideas about medicine and that is probably why John Travolta's son passed away. He probably refused to get his son help based on beliefs from his "religion".

Lady Heather - posted on 02/13/2011

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@Marina - oh wow. So I if I ever do get the urge to take the "free personality test" I've seen advertised outside their Vancouver headquarters, I should make sure I have a lot of time on my hands? That's nuttier than I thought it would be.

Desiree - posted on 02/13/2011

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They are not considered a religion they are a cult and one of the scariest there are. I think they are insane, as for Tom Cruise the word Meglomaniac comes to mind. HHMM oh yes short mans syndrome...

Katherine - posted on 02/13/2011

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I totally agree. They are waaay to pushy and it's scary. They might as well have a compound.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/13/2011

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They are a scary cult that try to force you to join...by any means possible it seems...manipulation, threats, holding you against your will, and stealing your money. I suppose any religion can say the same...but no church has ever done THIS to me or anyone else that I know...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/13/2011

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I was walking down Newbury street in Boston one beautiful day, I was just in bliss. I was walking to the Boston Commons to just sit, people watch and write in my journal. I got to, and was just having such a spiritual day. When I was walking back to the T (subway) I was asked a question by some people my age holding a clipboard. It was some random questions, and I answered them. Somehow, I got swept up along with others and found myself walking into this beautiful church..so I thought.

I was put into a room with a computer, told to answer some questions on it, then I would be "released". I did it, and waited...atleast an hour went by...and this person came into the room and told me to take another questionaire. I said I wanted to leave, and they promised I could AFTER I finished this other questionaire...I was also told that I would be evaluated after the second one. I did it....I wanted to leave.....did I mention the door was locked?

After the second questionaire, and another full hour...the person came back in and started "telling me" about myself. It was all hogwash...and I told them this. They started spewing all this info about Scientology and I was totally being recruited...I was scarecd shitless. I kept saying to let me leave, that I was not interested...I even tried to get up to leave...I was not allowed. After another hour of them telling me about scientology and how great it was, they told me after I bought a book from them..."hey that is the least they could do for the time they spent with me teaching me about reality" I bought a 12 dollar book and fucking BOLTED! Almost 4 hours of them holding me against my will. Granted I was young and stupid...I should never have gone anywhere with anyone...

I was walking past the same people that took me with their clipboards, I walked right up to them in the middle of the crowd they were about to take "hostage" and told them all to run the other way. I told them all quickly what happened, and then I hauled ass! I saw the crowd disperse rapidly.

Scientologists scare the shit out of me. No thank you.

Jenn - posted on 02/13/2011

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I disagree that all organized religion is "cultish and kinda nuts". I do agree that many are - but definitely not all. Anyway, I really don't know that much about scientology, but what I have read sounds pretty out there. I personally don't know that I would class it as a religion.

Katherine - posted on 02/12/2011

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Very true, but this seems to be based on very different thoughts than modern day religions.
Being immortal, and it's based on actual data of your life.

Katherine - posted on 02/12/2011

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Ha ha!!

No but really, what's up with this "religion?" I mean WHY is it so damn nutty? Is it a cult? Or is it a religion? Or is it a thought?

Rosie - posted on 02/12/2011

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i don't know much about it, but it seems to me that they are a cult, much like most religions. just more crazy, and harmful.

Katherine - posted on 02/12/2011

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Scientology was developed by L. Ron Hubbard as a successor to his earlier self-help system, Dianetics. Dianetics uses a counseling technique known as auditing, developed by Hubbard to enable conscious recall of traumatic events in an individual's past.[8] It was originally intended to be a new psychotherapy and was not expected to become the foundation for a new religion.[33][34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology...

Kate CP - posted on 02/12/2011

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It's not a religion. It was a drunken bet by two science fictions authors gone awry.

Angela - posted on 02/12/2011

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WOW! thats horrible.
I dont think Scientology is bad at all,if its just what people believe then they are more entitled to following that particular faith. There are tons of "dirty" things that may or may not go on not just in Scientology but in other religons to,or so I have heard,such as the infamous Catholic churches...I just think alot of people think that Scientology is weird and not a religion at all cause its out of the norm.

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