slavery was a good idea until the goverment got involved?...

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Dana - posted on 10/07/2010

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Wha, wha, what??? They wouldn't have starved, they would have just grown their own damn food!

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That is idiotic. Slavery is nor was ever a Good idea" and I would love to know specifically how the ideas concerning the beginning of slavery could be considered "seemingly innocent"????



I do get what he is trying to say about the healthcare bill, but the metaphor was stupid and so controversial that his original point (and original topic, for that matter) was completely lost on everyone.



(I didn't read everyone's posts the first time through :P)

Edited to add:I do understand what heather is saying about the government regulations forcing plantation owners to cut paid labor in exchange for slaves, but I also think that that was an immoral exchange, and they should have had the foresight to see it.

Isobel - posted on 10/07/2010

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or they could NOT OWN large plantations...it was always their choice...plenty of people did not own slaves...they just didn't get rich.

Rosie - posted on 10/07/2010

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oh god, i see glen beck in the link and i don't even want to read his rubbish....i suppose i'll be brave, lol!

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C. - posted on 10/14/2010

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I don't hate Glenn Beck, so I'm just going to say this.. I'm going to have to do more research than one SEEMINGLY biased column about him to form an honest and educated decision. *ducks and covers head*

Tah - posted on 10/08/2010

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it is worse that he knows better because his followers don't have the common sense to know he knows.lol...they follow him blindly and do not research anything he says and then go to these rally's spewing his hate and denying that he could be wrong about anything he says..

Johnny - posted on 10/08/2010

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I totally agree with you Jessica. Whether or not he believes it, there is absolutely no excuse. In fact, if he believes it, at least we can attribute it to pure stupidity. If he's promoting that line of thinking even though he knows better purely for ratings, that's just evil.

Serena - posted on 10/08/2010

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Its Glenn Beck, I think I would be disappointed if he ever said anything meaningful or intellilgent. We have come to expect things like this from him or Rush Limbaugh. They make their ratings off the controversy they create.

Jessica - posted on 10/08/2010

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I honestly think it doesn't matter whether Glenn Beck actually believes it all. That fact of the matter is, he is still perpetuating ignorance, misinformation and hatred. In fact, I think that IF he does not agree with what he is spreading and is doing it just to line his pockets, then that makes it all the more worse.

Dana - posted on 10/08/2010

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I agree, Carol. Sometimes I don't understand why republicans can't just say, "You know what, that was messed up!!" It's ridiculous, blindly following someone, making excuses for them or trying to reason what they mean. The fervor of people defending Former President Bush disgusted me. I thought it would get better after people realized that following someone blindly can have crappy consequences but, no....



*Edited to add* I agree that he says things like this to generate a rise and make money. He was on The View once and one of the ladies said, "You know, you're a smart man, we know you're just saying things like this to get a rise and make money". He just gave them a sly look and snickered. He also did the same thing when they brought up his crying. He's full of shit, he knows it, it's too bad not everyone else has figured it out.

Johnny - posted on 10/07/2010

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You know, I'm convinced he only says crap like this to generate ratings and attention in order to line his pocket. I do not believe that he actually agrees with any of the hate he spews.

This is one of the worst things he's said though. It's nice to see that there are people out there still defending slavery. I guess it's not enough to survive, we must degrade, humiliate, abuse, and dehumanize others in order to get rich. And we can excuse ourselves by pointing out that other people did it too? I guess by that logic I should go murder some of my rich relatives to steal their inheritance because I need better than just "surviving" and other people have done it too. Disgusting & vile. Completely lacking in morals.

I haven't hit the keys on my keyboard as hard as I've been doing responding to this thread in months. I'm really disgusted by some of the comments here. Ugh. Sick people!

Kate CP - posted on 10/07/2010

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What is it with the right wing nuts and not being able to follow American history properly?!

Tah - posted on 10/07/2010

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clicking the love button for "douche lord"....he is ridiculous and i near peed my pants when i heard this while in the truck, i am glad i had already picked the husband up and had handed the wheel to him or we would have been in a wreck..but still, i didn't believe(call me the eternal optimist) so i came home and watched, and listened, and barfed and knew that i had to turn this over immediately to the DB just so that i knew i was not crazy. I also agree that they could have worked some land themselves and not starved and made enough to be comfortable. Thats what i want in life, comfort.

Dana - posted on 10/07/2010

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If your neighbor has the capability of a huge plantation, I'm pretty sure you can find a square of land in your yard to grow a garden. ;)

Isobel - posted on 10/07/2010

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whenever you are caught doing something bad...just blame it on the government...mostly everything's their fault anyway...honestly :|

Heather - posted on 10/07/2010

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The people that would have starved would have been a large portion of the population who couldn't grow their own food or didn't have fertile land to grow food.

Isobel - posted on 10/07/2010

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I think they would've survived without slavery...America would not have grown to be the wealthiest country on the planet...but they'd have survived.

Heather - posted on 10/07/2010

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Well if people didn't own large plantations back then half of the country would have starved. You have to have a large plantation to grow more than one crop to feed the community or ship goods. It wasn't always about being rich, it was about providing for the community.

Heather - posted on 10/07/2010

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ummm...I just said I don't advocate slavery, but I wasn't around when it happened. I suppose everyone who owned large plantations could have just starved too. BTW, not everyone grew cotton and "became rich off the backs of slaves". Slavery was used in ALL areas of America. Slavery has been practiced all over the world(even in Africa). Most people didn't see it as wrong back then considering when slavery started in America there were slaves of all races including white people. As a matter of fact...there aren't too many independant nations that weren't built on the backs of slaves in one form or another.

Dana - posted on 10/07/2010

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♫ Crazy ♫

Everyone should take the time (and I know it's a long article) to check out this link in PDM. The guy is seriously crazy and verges on the edge of mental collapse. Seriously, so many people become alcoholics because they're so mentally unstable and this guy fits the bill.

http://www.circleofmoms.com/political-de...

Isobel - posted on 10/07/2010

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ummm...there is still a second choice there Heather...you could choose NOT to build a gigantic plantation and grow cotton to become rich off the backs of slaves...

did you really just say that? just wow

Heather - posted on 10/07/2010

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Ok. I listened to what he said a couple of times because I wanted to make sure I heard him correctly. If you go back in history to when slavery started in America, it WAS the government that forced people into buying slave labor. They regulated work forces and taxed goods to the point where people couldn't afford to pay laborers to pick crops or do the hard jobs. When this happened, many American businessmen turned to the Spanish to buy slaves so they could make a profit on the goods they were selling. I'm not advocating slavery in ANY way, but I don't actually think Glenn's point was wrong, just the way he said it. Government regulations are forcing American's into a kind of "slavery" to healthcare, welfare, etc. Like I said, right idea, just not the right way to describe it. :P

Kimberly - posted on 10/07/2010

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I'm not even going to waste the 3 minutes of my life I can never get back. He's a douche lord.

ME - posted on 10/07/2010

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WHY does he still have a job? That's possibly the most ignorant, racist, hateful, disgusting 3 1/2 minutes I've ever endured...I don't even know what to say....IGNORANCE people!!! Stop listening to him!!!

Rosie - posted on 10/07/2010

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we have always treated people different than us with contempt, no government involvment to make that happen. as soon as we landed on this country we took it from the native americans, doing whatever we needed to get it. and it's a far stretch that we would bring slaves over here to do our work for us? seriously, mr beck needs a history lesson. it is partially because of the government that we no longer have slaves and it is illegal to discriminate. how any of this plays into obamas healthcare is beyond me. but for a man who compares obama to hitler regularly, it doesn't surprise me. what a fuckhead.

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