Smoke Breaks yay or nay

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/27/2011 ( 66 moms have responded )

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Ok, I have no problems with smoke breaks when they are not abused. I would take 3-5 minutes...no more than that.

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Casey - posted on 05/29/2011

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I think people who take smoke breaks should either be made to have a shorter lunch break or have the time they waste deducted from their pay, I used to work in a place where nearly everyone smoked except for me and it used to piss me off that I had to work harder to cover for everyone who just ducked out for a smoke break and when did I get break??? NEVER.
If you really must smoke at work then thats your problem and you should do it in your own time!!!

Jenn - posted on 05/29/2011

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OK - sorry Marina. Yes, I have chatted at work WHILE we were working sometimes. Depends on where I was working. Bartending - my job was to tend to the customers, so I chatted with the customers, not fellow employees. At the Information Centre, sometimes if it wasn't busy and we were doing work on the computer or updating some paperwork, we might chat while we work, but often we worked in silence. At the gym, I worked alone, so nobody to chat with. I've also worked as a waitress at various places and you're usually running your ass off with no time for chatting, and I also worked in a convenience store - alone - so again, nobody to chat with.

I don't like the idea of an employer supporting you in your addiction. By them giving you permission to leave your post to go smoke, they are supporting you in continuing on with your addiction. That just doesn't seem like good sense to me.

Alyssa - posted on 05/28/2011

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As a smoker in a workplace I chose to "waste" my time smoking and not anything else. Others might go on facebook, check their emails, chat to co-workers, take 30 minute loo breaks (especially the men??!!) or make personal phone calls. I used up no more downtime, and maybe even less, because I was conscious of the fact that my spare time was more noticeable to others..

Christina - posted on 05/28/2011

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I'm a nurse. I'm suppose to get a 30min lunch break and two fifteen min breaks. Doesn't happen. I eat while working at the nurse's station doing paperwork, OR I take bites of food and quickly swallow because I can't be left alone for even five mins (Someone needs a pain pill, someone's dressing came off, someone needs to speak to me now about their family's medical care, ect.) It sucks. So I will take several smoke breaks at work. I go outside, hotbox a cig, and get back inside. I spend maybe 5min out side (or less) each time. It ensures I get at least 30min off the floor during the 9-12hrs I'm there every day.

Sarah - posted on 05/28/2011

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I think it all depends on where you work.
The DIY store I used to work in, we could get away with popping out for a cigarette so long as it wasn't busy etc. I never felt bad about it really, because the amount of people who didn't smoke but slacked off.....or took longer breaks than they should have......or disappeared to the toilet every half hour.....kind of evened it out for me.
Plus, our manager smoked, so we got away with it more.
The rule there was pretty much, so long as you're not taking the piss, you can pop out and have a fag (or go for an extra drink/biscuit/phone call whatever if you didn't smoke.

Where I work now, they follow the rules. You have your set breaks and that's your lot. I would sneak out for a cigarette there. I just smoke on my break.

So I think if your in a work place that allows everyone a bit of slack around breaks (non smokers too) then why not take advantage of it. If your not in that kind of work place......then you just have to wait!

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Alyssa - posted on 05/28/2011

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And there should also be a law that says one must shower before work, a limit on how much perfume to wear (maybe even what type..musk is disgusting) what lunched to bring (tuna ugh!)

Then again, if us smokers weren't so rushed for our breaks then we wouldn't come back stinking fresh of our last gloriously inhaled nicotine fix..?

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I wish there was a law that said smokers had to have a mint or something before they came back to stink out the office!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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LOL, well I am even more higher ruler than you, like queen of all rulers, cause I have been in both places too! As a non smoker and a smoker....so THERE! Plus, I didn't get mad at the smokers that would go out when I was quitting! I am rubber you are glue!

Dana - posted on 05/28/2011

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Marina, we may have cleaner lungs (now) but, some of us still know what it's like to be a smoker! ;)

I prefer to think I know a little of both worlds. So, I'm the supreme ruler. ;)

Bonnie - posted on 05/28/2011

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Very true Jodi. I think non-smokers need to start getting breaks for something else.

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I worked my butt off, half the time if i did not insist on my break..as in lunch break i could go all day.Sometimes i had to be reminded to take my break.There was no time to chit chat.lol.Non-smoker.:-P

Jodi - posted on 05/28/2011

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Except that smokers pee too.....so why do they get pee breaks AND smoke breaks when everyone else only gets pee breaks?

Bonnie - posted on 05/28/2011

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Personally, I have never smoked, but I do like to go pee when I have to, so if i'm going to take a 3-5 minutes break to go pee a few times during a shift than I don't care if people go smoke for 3 minutes as long as it's not excessive.

Besides that, I think if employees were told, no you can't go smoke unless you are on your actual break, people would lie about it and say they are going to the bathroom. At my last job, a co-worker of mine, lied here and there saying she was going to the bathroom, but really went to go smoke. I don't know why she lied about it, because others went to smoke and said that is where they are going.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Well, and most of you don't smoke...so you are all blinded by clean gleaming lungs! LOL....

Dana - posted on 05/28/2011

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lol



See, that's why you don't see a problem with it though. I bet most who don't see a problem with it in this thread smoke themselves.

You're blinded by your addiction! lol - J/K

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Infact, I ran out....gotta run to the store in a minute.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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The place that I worked that I LOVED, they did not care if I smoked, or anyone else....as long as you were a hard ass worker. I busted my ass constantly there. Infact, when we knew we were gonna have a 3-4 hour surgery after closing time, the Doctors would actually say to me, go smoke and we will start prepping when you are done. Maybe they didn't care simply because of my work ethics, and how much I did around the place...I don't know. I see all of your points, but still don't see it as a problem.

15 min smoke break is A LONG cigarette. Try 2.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Dana, it may take you that long to smoke...but not me when I know I need to be fast. I hotbox it and be done. I enjoy every drag, but do it quickly.

There was only one job that I have ever worked that you could NOT smoke on the property. So I didn't. But it was always wicked slow, and there was only so much busy work you can do. So what happened most of the time...for hours??? People literally sat around and talked....including the owner of the clinic. It sucked. Boring as hell.

Amy - posted on 05/28/2011

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Didn't read three pages. Smoking--is an addiction. Not like taking a pee break. I'd love to take a romance novel break at work. I am SO addicted to those!!!

But, at work unless boss is all "hey, smoke it up whenever", then sorry. Just has to wait. We did talk while working. Were inside doing our jobs while also chatting. If you have a job that lets you smoke while working, that would rock for smokers. But I can't stand the smell and am glad no smoking inside. I still stick with the..not a necessity, why get a break any other time than a regular break [like the 15 min ones where you clock out, pee, snack, chat, smoke, whatever on your own 15 mins.....read about sexy highlanders or vampires...you know, whatever]

Mrs. - posted on 05/28/2011

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Come on...if everyone from time to time chats with their co-workers, smokers or not, it is still a wash. That means everyone has the opportunity to occasionally chat with co-workers.

Now, if you are actually going outside to smoke, it is still extra time you are taking to do something that is not part of the job.

Writing off smoke breaks as the same as chatting up the next cubicle would work as a justification if everyone was then entitled to also go stand outside whenever they like to go for a quick jog or make a few long distance personal calls (What I can do that in 10-15 minutes too..it's the same thing right?).

Dana - posted on 05/28/2011

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Marina I really don't think smokers realize how long a smoke break is. I was a smoker. It takes anywhere from 10 -15 minutes to have a smoke break. The average cigarette takes about 6-7 minutes to smoke, add onto the fact of going outside and coming back in...and washing your hands if you work in the food industry.



Either way, I really don't care if it takes 5 minutes, you should not get added, paid breaks, just because you smoke while the rest of the employees who don't smoke pick up your slack.

Jenni - posted on 05/28/2011

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At the last job I worked, at a warehouse... we always tried to push our breaks back as late as we could. We were allowed to pick when we took our breaks because it wasn't assembly work (ie: working on a line). It was a feeble attempt to make the day go by faster. Work as long as we can in the morning and enjoy a our breaks and lunch closer to the end of the day. We were more worn out then from standing on our feet all day in work boots and lifting 20-30lbs boxes. So it made sense to save them for when we were more burnt out.

Lady Heather - posted on 05/28/2011

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I guess I've never worked anywhere that wasn't busy or that didn't have crazy deadlines. It really used to piss me off when I didn't get my paperwork on time because so and so had to go take a bunch of breaks. Honestly, most days I worked through my "coffee breaks" because it didn't seem like a good idea to stop.

It was funny at the last place because the shop people were unionized and the office people weren't. We had some help from a couple of shop kids with sorting through old paperwork for shredding. We were almost done a room and then they looked at the clock and were like "coffee time". And we're all "can't we just finish this? It'll be 15 minutes and then you take coffee?" Nope, it was coffee time and those guys were going no matter what. So we just finished it without them. One of the ladies was 63 years old and hauling bankers boxes around but these 16 year old kids couldn't take an extra 15 to finish a job without a break. rofl.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Sharon, I do agree with the smell. Surprisingly, I am not one of those people that the smell sticks too...but my breath does. I costantly had gum in my mouth, and would spritz quick if I needed it. Wash hands also. But I would was my hands like 20 times per hour or more any way. Working with animals is dirty business.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Heather, that is taking advantage. That is not what I mean. I would never take a smoke if it was busy. Infact, I have stopped co-workers from going out when it was.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Dana, 10-15 minutes chatting is no different than a smoke break. Infact, for me, that is 2-3 cigarettes.

Jenn, so you have NEVER stood or sat and chatted with another employee EVER in your work history? I find that highly unlikely.

Jenn - posted on 05/28/2011

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No Marina, I did not sit around chatting while at work - we worked while at work.

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To be honest, what annoys me more is the stench of smoke on an employee when returning from a smoke break. I was at PetSmart yesterday on the way home, with my son & nephews. I've been going to the same PetSmart for 5 years, the same cashier too and over the years I've gotten to know her. But still, the stench on her clothing and her breath just exposed me and a pair of 6 year olds & a 9 year old. Please feel free and smoke yourself into the grave, but if yo uare dealing with the general public, a little spritz of body spray or piece of gum can work wonders.

Lady Heather - posted on 05/28/2011

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Ummm...not at the job I was complaining about Marina. I was working at the super busy cafe downtown. There was no time for chit chat. But somehow these people could just sit there and smoke for 5 minutes an hour while I did all the work. Sounds like not much, but in a 10 hour shift that's 50 minutes where I was working alone. Ridiculous.

Even at later jobs, I didn't chat and do nothing. My lab job I worked alone so obviously I just worked. And my office job I might say a few words to the ladies, but that job was so simple I didn't have to stop working to talk. Just typed away. I wouldn't have gone into the lunch room and yammered to coworkers when it wasn't my break. Pretty sure I was being paid to work and the breaks were good enough for me.

I did notice the menfolk were pretty bad for the chatting breaks though, which made me kind of laugh. I think their problem is they can't talk and work at the same time so they have no choice but to take a break when they want to talk. Then there was that one guy who spent 40 minutes in the bathroom everyday. He probably should have seen a doctor about that.

Carolyn - posted on 05/28/2011

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Amy T. it must just be where you live, many many places in canada, with and without unions offer paid breaks. To me in ontario, its unheard of to not be paid for your breaks. Lunch usually is unpaid, but typically your 15 minute breaks are paid.

Jenni - posted on 05/28/2011

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At my other job I was considered self-employed so I could take breaks whenever I wanted.

Jenni - posted on 05/28/2011

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That's factory work for ya! We're all a bunch of worker ants working ourselves to death for our Queen.
I live in a motor city (next door to Detroit)... it's pretty much all blue collar factory work around here. :/

Dana - posted on 05/28/2011

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Marina, of course if your employers are fine with added smoke breaks or nonsmokers taking a break then there's nothing wrong with it.

Dana - posted on 05/28/2011

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There's a big difference between chatting with a co-worker for a few minutes (even if it is up to 15) and leaving your work area to go outside for 10-15 minutes.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Jennifer, I had an extremely fast paced, stressfull job...sometimes you just needed to get out. It was fine, everyone needed a moment throughout the day.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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WOW....you had some pretty stiff employers....big brother galore!

Jenni - posted on 05/28/2011

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I don't know Marina... any job I've worked if you were caught chatting it up with co workers you'd be yelled at by a supervisor to get back to work... or at least *look* busy. Maybe I've just worked at some crummy jobs. ;) But yeah, idling while chatting to co workers is just as frowned upon as sneaking out for a smoke break while not on your designated break.



Besides I'm a smoker and I don't get what the big deal is to wait 2-3 hours for your break. No biggie imo.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/28/2011

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Soooo....for those of you that say no to smoke breaks, I guess you NEVER stand around and chat catching up with you co-workers...

Dana - posted on 05/28/2011

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As long as they only use their regular breaks that everyone else gets, I have no issue what they do with their time.
Extra breaks for smoking- give me a break. ;)

Jenni - posted on 05/28/2011

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I've never heard of 'smoke breaks'. At any job I worked you would just go and smoke on your designated break that *everyone* was entitled to.

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Not abused yes i agree.I also think give the non-smokers a little break to.I was always on the go, the girls i worked with got a load of breaks lol:-(

Jodi - posted on 05/27/2011

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And just for the record, our employees can take a smoke break whenever they want provided it is not busy and they are not needed. Yes, they are paid by the hour, so they are being paid for their breaks, but there are times where there are huge lulls in the day, or days where it simply isn't busy, so we're not going to get in a knot over it. On extremely busy days, however, it isn't acceptable because a staff member taking a break at unscheduled times compromises customer safety.

Jodi - posted on 05/27/2011

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Salary earners are generally different. They are paid to do a particular job, regardless of how long it takes. But wage earners aren't, they are paid for a certain number of hours a day, and they should work them. If they want to have smoke breaks, and can negotiate to make up for it, fine, but there are a lot of industries where that just wouldn't work. Like the shop worker who wants to make up the time after closing time, or the nurse who wants to make up the time by overstaying her shift.

Jodi - posted on 05/27/2011

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In Australia it depends whether you are paid or not for breaks. Lunch break isn't paid, but in some industries you do get scheduled paid breaks.

Becky - posted on 05/27/2011

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No, Jodi, in that case you shouldn't be getting paid for them. I definitely don't think a person should be getting paid overtime because they're wasting their time smoking! I was thinking of salary workers. Although really, I'm pretty anti-smoking, so I'd just as soon no one got paid for doing it, but I guess I was just saying I can see a difference depending on where you work and how you're paid.

Amie - posted on 05/27/2011

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With scheduled breaks as well for wage earners (as opposed to salary) I'm not sure if it's Canada wide but I do know scheduled breaks here are not paid. There are exceptions to this (unionized workers in some areas) but being paid for a break is pretty much unheard of.

Jodi - posted on 05/27/2011

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But Becky, what if you are getting paid by the hour and you still get your work done, but you have to do 1/2 hour overtime to get it done. Should you really be PAID for those smoke breaks?

Becky - posted on 05/27/2011

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Like I said in the breastfeeding breaks post, for me, it depends on your workplace. If you have a desk job where other people are not relying on you to be present at a given time and no one has to cover for you if you go out, fine, as long as your work is getting done. If you're supposed to be covering the till at Walmart of waiting tables and someone is having to cover for you while you run out for an extra 5 minutes to smoke, then no, that's not okay, IMO. Smoke when you have your regular breaks.

Amie - posted on 05/27/2011

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I have no problem with them. Most people waste time during the day, might as well let the smokers go outside and smoke while the others twiddle their thumbs or whatever it is they do.

I'm still friends (and related to one person) with the people from my last job. They wander back and forth all day for smoke breaks. I stop by to visit and it's quiet, we go outside to have a smoke. The owner doesn't care because his employees are good at their jobs and it doesn't interfere with them executing their jobs. If they are really busy with something - they wait. If there's time to kill and they are a smoker - they go out to smoke. If they don't smoke - they twiddle their thumbs or something. Oddly enough, the most useless butthole at the place doesn't smoke. She's also the daughter of the owner's g/f but that's another story. =/

Alyssa - posted on 05/27/2011

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We didn't have scheduled breaks, working in the human services industry you just took the time if and when you could. Lots of people seem to smoke in this industry probably because there are no scheduled breaks and it is a good "time out". It kind of went without saying that once you cleaned up poo from head to toe or put back someones room that had been dismantled....you deserved a friggin break!

Lady Heather - posted on 05/27/2011

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I worked at this cafe in Toronto when I was 18 and at the time you could still smoke in places like that. Every other person who worked there smoked and they all took a break once an hour. FOR REAL. So there they are sitting on their asses while I cleaned up around them. I addressed it with the boss and he was like "well, they smoke so they have to take breaks". Ummm...right.

Mrs. - posted on 05/27/2011

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Yeah, no. If it is your scheduled break - go kill yourself. If not - chew some gum.

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