So its election time in Canada

Amanda - posted on 04/11/2011 ( 40 moms have responded )

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In March 2011 Canadian government had a vote of no-confidence. For those who do not understand our government, I will give a bit of back history on our government today.



For the last 7 years we have had a minority government, this means the party in power does not have majority of overall seats. Every time a new bill is introduced in parliament there is a possibility of the majority parties to vote down the bill, which in turn leaves the government no choice by to announce a vote of no-confidence. Which leaves the government no real choice but to dissolve the elected parliament and call a general election to elect a new parliament.



May 2nd we go back to the election polls for the 4th time in 7 years. Now I do not want to know what way any Canadian is voting, because this is a personal choice. I am wondering how many believe that Harper planned for a no-confidence vote.



It seems to me Harper has been planning this for months as he has approved Liberal bashing commercials which have been playing on television for awhile now, but leaving others less than 2 months to campaign for their parties.



So do you feel Harper had planned to bring a budget to the table he knew never would pass in parliament to give himself a head start a election in hopes to finally break the minority government that has been pledging Canada for years now. If you do feel this way, do you feel this is underhanded, unethical way to try to get power in Canada? Or do you feel this was a brilliant move by Harper to get the heads up on the election?

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Isobel - posted on 04/11/2011

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hmmm...when I think the liberals are going to win I vote NDP (cause I like them as the "conscience" of the government). But if it looks like the Conservatives are going to win I vote liberal just to TRY to keep them out.

I truly believe in the fact that Harper was found in contempt...in my opinion, he shouldn't even be allowed to run again.

Tara - posted on 04/11/2011

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here's a link, find your riding on the page and go across to the right, it will tell you which party you need to vote for if you want to have a chance of getting Harper and his government out of the prime ministers office.
This data is based on mathematics, it works.
http://regressiveconservative.ca/voting-...

Johnny - posted on 04/11/2011

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I think they all knew. It seems like it hasn't been that long since the last election to us, but to the politicos, it seems like forever. The Conservatives were itching to try for a majority again and the Liberals & NDP were wanting to get more power for themselves. The day that the writ dropped, I had 4 phone calls from various parties in 3 hours. It was nuts.

I'll be voting Liberal. I've got a great MP who I very much respect and whose ideals are very close to my own. He was a provinical NDP leader for a time and has been serving federal for a while now. He's been in politics for a very long time, but has managed to never be implicated in scandal or have his integrity questioned. I know several people he has assisted, he helped our co-op with some funding, and when I worked for the Census, his office was very willing to help with finding enumerators with less commmon language skills. I'd never vote Conservative, but otherwise, I decide my vote based on the candidates, rather than which party. In my riding the NDP candidate is poorly spoken and very unimpressive and I don't have a clue who the Green person is, but they don't list much on their CV on their website. Mine would be more impressive. I'm not voting for someone who is older than me and has done even less with their life.

When I lived in a heavily conservative riding, I used to vote for the Marijuana Party.

Jayce - posted on 04/11/2011

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I think Harper was planning for this and that he needs to be bitched slapped for it. Heading to the polls for the 4th time in 7 years is just plain ridiculous and such a waste of money.

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Lady Heather - posted on 04/13/2011

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I frigging love Duceppe. Well, you know - not really. But you can't beat him for entertainment value. He's got nothing to lose so he just says whatever he wants, It's hilarious. And when the rest of them are sucking as bad as they did last night, it's nice to have something to break that up. My favourite part was when Layton got all misty-eyed with Harper - "You've changed somehow." I really wanted Harper to say "It's not you, it's me." and then they could hug and cry.



But basically this is the summation:

"That's simply not true."

"You have no respect for parlliament/democracy blah blah blah."

Tara - posted on 04/13/2011

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Yes Clement is in the news a lot due to the G8 spending. Our little town of Baysville in Lake of Bays Township received an "all-season heritage plaque" at a $39000 price tag.
And a new bandshell and surrounding landscaping at a cost of $300,000. I go by this thing all the time, it's small, the landscaping is grass and the whole project was done by a company from St.Catherines not a local company. And it could have been done for about $150,000 based on all my contractor friends estimates.
He wasted so much money on G8 crap for his riding. So much crap when so many other things could have been done with that money.
I am encouraging everyone I know to vote for Cindy Waters just to get his spend happy ass out of office.

Veronique - posted on 04/13/2011

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Harper, Harper ,Harper......Of course he planned this. Come one 7 times in 4 years, what a waste of money.

Bonnie - posted on 04/13/2011

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I just saw bits and pieces, but that Duceppe guy needs to take a chill pill.

Jayce - posted on 04/13/2011

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I don't think any of them have a clue. Maybe this year I'll vote for the Elvis impersonator that always runs in my area.

Caitlin - posted on 04/13/2011

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It made me laugh when Laytons firts comments started with "let me tell you a story..." and I found it so fake that ignatief pulled the "we have to protect the women" shpiel out of his back pocket right at the end on the justice system question. Harper was cool as a cucumber, but always went back to the same basic speech, since everyone was always attacking him - which left little room to promote his party, and left him on the defensive the whole time.. and, well, Duceppe was just a waste of oxygen as usual, mr. "bill 101" (the biggest joke against human rights ever).

That's pretty much my take on how they fared.. who came out ahead? Nobody IMO. (Though I relaly wish they'd change the system, because as Layton pointed out, the Bloc gets 1.8 million votes (or soemthing) and gets 50 seats, and the green party gets 900 000 and gets none.. not right..)

Johnny - posted on 04/13/2011

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On the radio during my commute. I wanted to reach into the dash and smash all their heads together.

Krista - posted on 04/13/2011

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Not I. I was too frigging tired. I heard that Harper was really on the defensive, though. Debates rarely turn tides though, and he's still leading by an alarming margin.

Johnny - posted on 04/12/2011

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Tara, your riding is really in the news now. I'm hoping that Tony Clement & Stephen Harper's lies might be just enough to keep them from getting a majority.

I'd better log off here and work on my "anti-Conservative post of the day" for my Facebook. I've been getting behind.

Krista - posted on 04/12/2011

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I wish we could vote for our PM separately from our MP. I always had a really hard time with that when Bill Casey was our MP. He was Conservative, but I loved him. Really great, upstanding guy, who really put in a lot of effort for his constituents. But it never felt good voting for him, because it meant a vote for Harper.

I was so happy when he was booted from caucus for voting against the budget, and ran as an independent. :)

Elfrieda - posted on 04/12/2011

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Krista, I'm in a Smurf-like riding, too. I haven't seen a Liberal or NDP sign yet! Just Conservative everywhere and a few fringe Calvinist-Family First type party signs. I guess I thought I was one of the few who think Stephen Harper is a crook, so I'm surprised that we're all in agreement here!



Yup. I just checked out that website, and it says my district is a sure Conservative win. I wish we had a different system.

Krista - posted on 04/12/2011

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Isn't Tony Clement at the centre of this new G8 spending scandal that the Auditor-General brought to light?

As far as here, it's tricky. My riding is usually as blue as an oxygen-deprived Smurf. Tara's link says I should vote NDP. I haven't even seen one damn sign for the NDP candidate -- just the Conservative guy, the Liberal guy, and a few signs for the CHP.

I definitely agree about voting strategically, though. We've got to get Harper out of there.

Tara - posted on 04/12/2011

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Our local MP is Tony Clement. He did not live here, he did not even cottage here, but he is now our MP. He was a parachute candidate in the last election. And because he is one of Harpers right hand men he made it in, most people I know are pissed that he doesn't have any real connections to our riding but tries very hard to make it seem like he cares.

He was here on Friday morning last week, I had to lean down my porch stairs to take his pamphlet and when I did, he checked out my cleavage. Mind you, I didn't give him an option, I was wearing a tank top and when I lean over, my girls seem to squish themselves up together. Meh he's only human.

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He did cottage here for a couple of years before he decided to run in this riding, in the last election he won by a mere 28 votes. It's time for him to go. And I guarantee when he gets voted out he will go back to being a cottager and not a resident of Muskoka-Parry Sound.

Amanda - posted on 04/12/2011

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I agree Laura, hiring criminals, and allowing party members to do illegal things, he shouldnt even be allowed to run!

Johnny - posted on 04/11/2011

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Argh. The NDP pulls crap like that for "gender equality" too. I think that's why we have this loser candidate in our riding. Either that, or they are secretly trying to make sure that the Liberal candidate wins by running a lame NDP nominee.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/11/2011

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The Green party pulled a great one in my riding in the last election. They had picked a local guy, confirmed it with him, printed the signs. He was all ready to go. Then they suddenly decided they wanted more female candidates so they booted him and opted for some law student from Vancouver. I'm sorry, but a person from Vancouver who has never lived here knows NOTHING about PG. The old Green candidate ran as an independent and I voted for him to make my political statement.

Johnny - posted on 04/11/2011

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I hate it when they parachute in candidates. I don't care if they're 20 year old students or one of those "star candidates" the media is always on about. The BC Liberal party put one of them in our riding. He was from West Vancouver. They removed our well-respected MLA to another riding where he lost (because of course the people there didn't want to vote for a parachuted candidate either) and we got a guy who is now into his second investigation for alleged campaign misdeeds.

I so much prefer grassroots candidates from the riding, and will vote outside of my usual party lines if there is a good one running. Or like in my old riding, I just voted for Marijuana because I like the woman's name, Rhiannon Rose, lol.

Tara - posted on 04/11/2011

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For the greater good vote strategically this time around Julianne. Please, lol.
You're young, you haven't had a lot of politics under your belt as an adult yet, I would love to vote marijuana party if one existed up here, or green but it won't do jack shit about getting harper out of the pmo. When you vote strategically your vote goes against a candidate and their party rather than going for a candidate and a party.
It sucks but the lesser of two evils is better than one Great big spend happy conservative government.
Spread the word, share the link on facebook, I know so many people who don't normally vote, I am encouraging all of them to use the chart and use their political voice, their democratic voice for something, just vote strategically if you want Harper out, if you want him in, well then good luck to you.
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I want to vote green...but I'm still thinking about it...I want David Suzuki to run. That would be awesome.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/11/2011

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Huh, neat website Tara. At least it says I should vote NDP. I might be able to go for that. He is also a student but hey - he's local. Doubt it will make a difference anyways. They must be behind by a kabillion percent.

Jenny - posted on 04/11/2011

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Looks like NDP for me. I'll hold my nose and go for the greater good.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/11/2011

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I would strategically vote but a) it makes no difference here and b) I won't vote for some twit 20 year old who lives in Vancouver. Good luck to the rest of you. Here's hoping we can drop these guys.

Amanda - posted on 04/11/2011

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Interesting, NDP for my riding (which is actually what I vote in my area since I moved here). I normally vote liberal, but I really do like the NDP leader, and I couldnt bring myself to vote Sheila Copps after I moved in this area, and since then I just tend to keep with my NDP vote.

Jenny - posted on 04/11/2011

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Honestly I'm starting to rethink mine too. I shudder to think what a Conservative majority could bring, the risk is too great.

Tara - posted on 04/11/2011

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I am voting strategically with the intention of getting Harper off his pedestal. In my riding that means I am voting Liberal, I can try voting with my heart next time, but this regime has gone on long enough in my opinion and yes I do think he planned the no-confidence vote and I hope to hell it backfires on his conservative ass. :P

Caitlin - posted on 04/11/2011

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I don't even bother going to vote, because my riding has been Bloc for the past 70 something years or something insane like that, theres no point for me to vote here.

Elfrieda - posted on 04/11/2011

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Oh, Jenny, don't vote Green. We've got to get Harper out, and surely Iggy can't be worse? At least with his ego, he's going to want to leave a fine legacy and there are worse things to focus on, IMO.

Jenny - posted on 04/11/2011

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Of course he was planning for it, he is desperate for his majority government and if that happens say goodbye to Canada as we know it. Look foward to American style superprisons, internet surveillance, the raping of our environment. The Liberals and NDP suck too. I'm voting Green as they are the only ones with their priorities in the correct order.

Caitlin - posted on 04/11/2011

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Well, all I can say for sure is that the liberals posters were up here BEFORE the non-confidence motion was announced offically, so the liberals knew they were going to vote against it too, i don't think anyone got a "heads up" on anyone else to be honest, they all knew it was coming!

Lady Heather - posted on 04/11/2011

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Whether he was planning it or not, he obviously knew it was coming and it's not like he tried to stop it. I think they're all a bunch of idiots playing their little game while the rest of us sit here and watch our money get spent on ineffective governments. I bet the result of this election is the same as the last one. I know it ain't going to change where I live. It never does. Dick Harris every time. And the other parties run students with no hope of winning. It's fantastic. The Liberals are even running a student who doesn't live here. She lives 10 hours away in Vancouver. But she's been here before she says. Way to boost your female numbers guys! Sigh.

Can you tell I've become a political cynic?

Becky - posted on 04/11/2011

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Hmmm, I hadn't reallly thought about that, but you're right, there were election style ads on TV for awhile before the election was actually called. If he did indeed plan for this, then I think that was pretty underhanded, particularly since he's always spouting about how Canadians do not want another election. (True!) On the other hand, although I didn't study the budget, I really don't know what was so objectionable in it. And the other parties have worked with him in the past to make the budget acceptable to all of them, so why not this time? I'm more inclined to think that it was the other parties wanting to topple the Harper government.
Honestly, I don't think any politician is 100% above-board all the time, so nothing would really surprise me. I don't trust any of the options. But I will still vote because I feel that's the responsible thing to do.

Desiree - posted on 04/11/2011

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I wishsouth Africa could be so lucky to be able to vote not confidence in our government. Majority rules is all ok but when you elect again and again idiots that steal and are corrupt, you actually get what you ask for. Just because they fought against apartheid doesn't mean they know what they are doing... Oh please we would have the luck to vote no confidence, And we will get them back again come the 18th May 2011. I wish I were in Canada. or anywhere else that has more brains than these brain washed fools.(deep sigh!!)

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