Spanish Men Get BF Breaks

Katherine - posted on 01/19/2011 ( 23 moms have responded )

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Spain has just ruled that working fathers have the right to take breastfeeding breaks. Because, you know, in Spain, men make breast milk and can nurse. If this were true, I would have had myself a Spanish baby daddy because I really could have used another set of milk-filled breasts during the first 6 weeks of nursing my twins. If my husband lactated, too, we'd have enough extra milk to put in our coffee.

So while Spanish men don't lactate, they do get the same courtesy breaks of a woman who does and must take time away from work to nurse.

Kind of makes me think how annoyed I used to get when I was young and angst-y and felt the non-smokers of the company I worked at deserved 10-minute breaks for oh say eating a cupcake or working on 8-minute-abs or whatever a non-smoker would feel like doing during the three or four or eight breaks a smoker takes during an 8-hour work day.

The ruling says that fathers in Spain get to leave work up to twice a day for a total of an hour or to shorten their workday by 30 minutes for the first nine months of the baby's life -- the same rights granted to moms.

How awesome is Spain?

Sometimes I am the crusader of fairness and try to fight the good fight for the little issues. Because it's the little issues that get overlooked just like the kid on the playground that was never picked. Or maybe this is me just uncovering some deep, dark unresolved issues. And often my red cape just gets dirty and ripped and doesn't allow me to really take flight. Or in the smoker/non-smoker break battle, not win. Actually, it was sort of defeated on its own since not as many people smoke now as they did back then when this was my chosen crusade. That and I stopped caring.

But in this case, the dads in Spain revolted, wanted the same break time mom was allowed, and they won. Legally.

My only question is ... what are the dads doing during those breaks?

http://thestir.cafemom.com/baby/110355/s...

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Tara - posted on 01/19/2011

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But wait, only nursing mothers get this break and only for 9 months, so does this only include men who have new babies at home? Or all men? Do they have to prove they have a baby under 9 months?
If this is the case, I would hope they are taking the shorter day and going home to be with their families. If they take the split breaks, I question the motive behind their revolt. Women have this right because it is best for their children. If men are only using it to catch a nap, watch a youtube video, play with themselves etc. then really is it equal rights? Then shouldn't women also have a break to do those things?
This is a medical break, it is a necessary break for the well being of their child.
In the absence of paid maternity leave for the first year, this is a good compromise for women who want to nurse but have to work, which is of benefit to families. How is a guy just taking a break to do whatever a benefit?

Laura - posted on 01/19/2011

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See I don't get this because to me going to pump is not actually a "break" sure you can get something to eat or drink while you're doing it but it is not pleasurable or relaxing. These men on the other hand are just getting a break so no, I still don't think it's equal. If a man is actually trying to lactate and pump then I'm all for it but if they just get an extra break, I don't think it right.

Amber - posted on 01/19/2011

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i get 'equal rights' but men don't breastfeed. it's not really something they are entitled to if they don't have that bodily function. now if it was a poo break we were talking about, we all poo, so it would make sense. but men just don't lactate. it's weird that they even want a break like that. pussies lol

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Amber - posted on 01/19/2011

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'Shakes head, this is why the womans movement ruined woman. Entitlement, and expect special treatment, but dont want others to have the same treatment.'

LOL is all i have to say. damn right i'm entitled to breaks to breastfeed or pump to FEED my CHILD that i MADE in MY BODY. it's not fun & games, it's more work that i don't get paid for! it's not equal rights at all, it's silliness. any man that tries to tell me he has earned, in any way, the right to 'breastfeeding breaks' in the workplace can kiss my ass, frankly. and also you didn't answer my question, these men [assuming they aren't fruit bats LOL] that lactate, is it the same colostrum & vitamins & nutrients that a mother's body creates for her baby, and changes as the baby grows to suit it's nutritional needs? i should say not. that in itself entitles me to special treatment, i'm a food machine :|

Lady Heather - posted on 01/19/2011

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If my husband was taking these breaks and not using them to spend time with the family, I'd just call him lazy. Honestly, who needs that many freaking breaks at work? I don't know about anyone else, but I sort of found work breaks boring. They're never long enough to actually do anything. I'd rather just pass the time working. I'd certainly rather be working than sitting there pumping. That was one of my most hated tasks.

Becky - posted on 01/19/2011

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I don't think this is an equal rights issue. Men don't breastfeed or pump, so giving them breastfeeding/pumping breaks is ridiculous. A woman takes these breaks to make sure she is able to provide nourishment for her child. A man gets to do anything he wants on his breaks. Now, if breastfeeding mothers were getting extra breaks just to go for a walk because they're stressed out, or take naps because they're tired or go get more food becaus they're extra hungry, I can see giving the breaks to men too. But breastfeeding breaks for people who aren't breastfeeding? If you could force them to go home 30 minutes early and take care of their child, that'd be one thing, but of course, you can't!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/19/2011

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I had no other choice. There were the doctors offices, with no privacy, and my little area was in the open. I had no where else to pump.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/19/2011

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I was working in the Animal hospital at the time..I am not doing it now, I am not working right now. This is when my son was born...and yup. I could not do it in my car like previously said, I had a plug in pump. The batteries would die on the first boob! There were 2 bathrooms in the Hospital, one in the front accessible to clients and employees, and the one that I used was strictly for employess. I would personnaly clean the bathroom once daily to assure it was clean...but yes...I had to use the bathroom to pump...

Charlie - posted on 01/19/2011

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My SO went to school with a guy who was lactating *shrug* .
But yeah this ruling is a bit whack .

Marina do you seriously have to pump in a toilet ? There is no way in hell I would let anyone make me prepare my sons foods in a toilet .

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/19/2011

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Amanda...shaking my head back at you...we are different from men no matter what the women's movement, employments, men, or women for that matter say. Our bodies can make life, carry life, and sustain life. Can men? No...if I need 15 minutes to drain the milk from my overflowing breasts at work, and I punch out and don't get paid for that...why the hell should a man have the same benefits? I am not really sure why a man would want this "free" time. I do not want to be treated the same as a man when it comes to my lactating breasts, or my swelling belly, or my bloody tampons. I am not a man, and in the eyes of the work force, I am still not a man. I can lift a 90lb dog by myself, carry its dead weight to its kennel, I can take down a rotti all by myself, I can be on my feet for 14hrs in a day and still run circles around a man. But, I will take the time from all of this to pump my painful breasts, and will do it without a man being jealous...I assure you.

Amanda - posted on 01/19/2011

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Shakes head, this is why the womans movement ruined woman. Entitlement, and expect special treatment, but dont want others to have the same treatment.

Laura - posted on 01/19/2011

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Marina I refused to use the bathroom, I wouldn't actually feed my child in there let alone pump. I walked out to my car, at the end of the parking lot, in the middle of winter, in South Dakota, but it's worth it. I was either that or go the the handicap fitting room smack dab in the middle of the store with an insanely loud pump. I would love to see men do any of this. My husband passed out watching me get my epidural.

Amber - posted on 01/19/2011

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no doubt; i'd like to see a teeny little man-nipple put out enough milk to nourish a child. LOL

~♥Little Miss - posted on 01/19/2011

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Yeah Amber, that would be the only reason I think they should have it...otherwise I think it is ridiculous. Women go through this pregnancy that misshapes her body, makes her cuckoo with hormones..pushes a child out of her Vagina, potentially leaving it a little larger...or they have a nasty scar and a paiful incision from a c-section, then they have this milk fill into there boobies and a child stuck to it constantly until they stop breastfeeding or they go back to work. The boobs then need to be pumped, becouse it hurts like hell if you don't do it...but wait...not only the pain and discomfort...if you DON"T make time to do it..you have embarassing leaks. It relieves them also...any man that goes through even a PORTION of what I just said, be my guest..you can join me in the bathroom (yup in the bathroom was my designated pump spot when I was working) take 15-20 minutes to have your nipples sucked on by a hard plastic pump..that by the way anyone in ear range knows exactly what you are doing...so much for privacy....Any man that thinks that is a fucking break can pull up the toilet seat next to me and WORK at getting your milk into bottles to nourish your child...go ahead,,,,I double...NO I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!

Amber - posted on 01/19/2011

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in an ideal world, these spanish wonderboys will all leave work that half an hour early, run home, sweep the baby out of their wives hands and lactate all over the place so she can go to bed at 5 pm and not get up until 9 am the next day. if the men in Spain can do that, then maybe they do deserve these breaks :O

Amber - posted on 01/19/2011

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'Actually men can lactate...



With medication a man can lactate just as woman can, some men have claimed to have discharge from their nipples while their wives are breastfeeding. In fruit bats males breastfeed all the time. All male mammals have the means to lactate, and it is believe in early years both males and females breastfeed their children. And yes this is an equal right issue, you cant expect extra time off to lactate, and not offer the same amount of time off to males, that would be discrimination. '





ARE they going to go breastfeed their babies on these breaks? or pump breastmilk from their man boobies to feed to their babies later on? and does this man-milk contain any of the things that mommy-milk does that are good for baby, that are only horomonally produced by a mother's body? i highly, highly doubt it. i don't think that just because you have the technical ability to lactate, not necessarily functionally, that gives you the same rights as a mother who is exclusively feeding her baby breastmilk and therefore has a job to do in the private room with her her pump. i have never before heard of a man doing that without one of those fake-boob majiggers. this is kind of crazy. i'm going to lobby for urinals in the ladies room, just in case some of us decide we want to try to stand up & pee just like the boys. why should they get all the fun, cool-looking space potties?!?! discrimination! i need longer breaks during the day at work because it takes me a heck of a long time to arrange myself at the urinal so i can pee like a boy!

Rosie - posted on 01/19/2011

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as soon as a man can carry a baby for 9 months, push it out, AND breastfeed then i'll be ok with this, lol.
i've never ever worked anywhere that allows smokers more breaks than non smokers. i find that incredibly odd. i've been hearing of it a lot lately. i wish that was the case when i smoked, lol! more breaks would've been awesome!

Amanda - posted on 01/19/2011

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Actually men can lactate...



With medication a man can lactate just as woman can, some men have claimed to have discharge from their nipples while their wives are breastfeeding. In fruit bats males breastfeed all the time. All male mammals have the means to lactate, and it is believe in early years both males and females breastfeed their children.



And yes this is an equal right issue, you cant expect extra time off to lactate, and not offer the same amount of time off to males, that would be discrimination.

Amber - posted on 01/19/2011

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push the baby out and feel how it actually feels to 'let down' and have your milk come in. then you've earned the breaks :P sorry i keep feeling silly.

Kate CP - posted on 01/19/2011

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I can tell you exactly what they're doing...but that would be highly inappropriate conversation. :P

Amanda - posted on 01/19/2011

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Good for these men, we as woman want equal rights but dont always allow men the same equal rights we have. Hopefully these men will get off work early, and run home to help out their nursing mothers! My husband considered taking my maternity leave (as I dont work) he was entitled to my time, but after 2 weeks he was driving me nuts and I sent him back to work LOL.

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