Spit hoods for prisoners

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Prison guards will be able to put bags over inmates' heads to prevent them spitting and spreading disease.



The disposable mesh bags, called "spit hoods", are a response to the 4 per cent of assaults on prison guards involving spitting.



Concerns had been raised over spit hoods in Canada, where the Ombudsman investigated a case involving a man who thought he was going to die after being blinded with pepper spray, handcuffed, and having a bag placed over his head.



The bags are part of an expanded range of protective gear being introduced by Corrections New Zealand.



The department is also running an "operational trial" of pepper spray.



Corrections Prison Service assistant general manager Brendan Anstiss said policies were being developed around spit hoods, including using the hoods with other measures. A legislative change to add spit hoods to standard prison equipment was expected by Christmas, he said. Stab-proof vests and batons were also being introduced.



Anstiss said spit hoods would be used if a prisoner had been identified as a spitter. They would not be standard practice.



Prisoners would normally be restrained when the hoods were used as spitting was normally the "last resort" of a restrained, but still aggressive prisoner, he said.



While spitting was not a common assault, it was dangerous because prisoners had a higher rate of communicable diseases such as hepatitis and HIV. Howard League for Penal Reform Christchurch spokeswoman Kathy Dunstall said the introduction of hoods was raising "considerable concern".



"The problem is we are dealing with situations that are out of sight," she said.



There were also concerns about prison guards having pepper spray.





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Sharon - posted on 10/01/2009

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My take -



good for the guards. Put the hoods on. These dipshits broke the law, they aren't your average "got a speeding ticket & didn't pay it 'cause I was broke". They are disease ridden druggies with mean streaks.



They have LOST THEIR RIGHTS. Now they are being punished for breaking the law and they're pissed off only because they got caught. So now they want to take it out on the law abiding guards who are working hard for their paychecks?? I don't think so.

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Dawn - posted on 10/04/2009

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Ok first off why did I have to re-join this group? COM is acting up again. err

Did you know that there is only 200,000 CO's for the approx amount of 2.2 mill inmates in the USA prison system.

Last year there was 7,795 attacks on CO's.

Jeannette - posted on 10/04/2009

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Quoting Dawn:

My husband is a correctional officer aka prison guard. These guys spit, at lease in my state, more than this article states. I'm glad that they talk about the diseases. But in Washington state you are not allow to know if a prisoner has any diseases. Also, some inmates also will take urine from themselves and other prisoners and throw it at the guards. Another one, this is the gross one, take poop and broken glass and throw it at a guard. If the guard, goes to try to wipe it off his face the glass will cut him and then it will get instantly infected with the feces. These guys spend all day thinking of ways to get the guards. So any thing that will help protect these guys that are putting their lives and health on the line is fine by me.


Thank the Heavens I am not a correctional officer.  I would be the one hauling the prisoner, who threw feces with glass, into a broom closet and beating the feces out of them.  No lie...I'd be the one...I cannot tolerate an act of violence on my person without going bat shit! 

Kate CP - posted on 10/04/2009

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Working in a prison is scary, dangerous work. As long as the spit hoods don't kill any prisoners by suffocating them then I say go for it. These felons have all day and all night to think of new and interesting ways to hurt or kill other people who didn't give them their cookie in the canteen. Whatever works is worth some discomfort.

Jaime - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Dawn:

My husband is a correctional officer aka prison guard. These guys spit, at lease in my state, more than this article states. I'm glad that they talk about the diseases. But in Washington state you are not allow to know if a prisoner has any diseases. Also, some inmates also will take urine from themselves and other prisoners and throw it at the guards. Another one, this is the gross one, take poop and broken glass and throw it at a guard. If the guard, goes to try to wipe it off his face the glass will cut him and then it will get instantly infected with the feces. These guys spend all day thinking of ways to get the guards. So any thing that will help protect these guys that are putting their lives and health on the line is fine by me.


It is really scary to think that a prisoner could have a whole host of diseases and guards are none the wiser for whatever messed up reason.  I can't imagine going to work one day and being spit on or showered with urine and feces only to find out a few months later that I have a non-curable disease as a result of these attacks.  I think the spit hoods are a good idea because guards need to be protected...they take enough risks dealing with hardened criminals as it is--armed or not.  A gun and pepper spray won't do a guard any good to protect against HIV or hepatitis.  I just hope the 'powers that be' come to an agreement and implement this protective measure.

Dawn - posted on 10/03/2009

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My husband is a correctional officer aka prison guard. These guys spit, at lease in my state, more than this article states. I'm glad that they talk about the diseases. But in Washington state you are not allow to know if a prisoner has any diseases. Also, some inmates also will take urine from themselves and other prisoners and throw it at the guards. Another one, this is the gross one, take poop and broken glass and throw it at a guard. If the guard, goes to try to wipe it off his face the glass will cut him and then it will get instantly infected with the feces. These guys spend all day thinking of ways to get the guards. So any thing that will help protect these guys that are putting their lives and health on the line is fine by me.

Isobel - posted on 10/02/2009

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well I'm going to be the one kooky one who says I couldn't live with this on my head. I am mildly claustrophobic. i remember once trying to paint something while I was pregnant and had to wear face mask...I thought I was going to die...I understand that they gave up their liberty...but (if they are like me)their right to breath? I don't know.

Johnny - posted on 10/01/2009

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Sounds fair to me. Why should a guard have to take the chance of having someone who is known to do so spit on them? Like Sharon said, they have lost their rights. At least all but the most basic human rights. We don't have the right to spit on people anyway. This does not sound like torture or even inhumane treatment. If they don't spit on guards or fellow inmates, they won't have to wear the hood. That's reasonable.

Cassie - posted on 10/01/2009

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I'm somewhat biased but my husband is a police officer and I think this is a great idea. These men and women deserve to be protected from the inmates' diseases in any way possible. I'm all for it. It's not as though these prisoners are model citizens who have done nothing wrong and wouldn't enjoy spreading there misery and diseases to those who work with them.

Jeannette - posted on 10/01/2009

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OMG..I don't know what I'd do if someone spit on me! I'd freak out! I could not imagine being a guard that may be subjected to this daily. Yikes!

I think this is a good idea.

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