Studies suggest that mothers should "delay" BFing for the sake of Vaccines.

Kayleigh - posted on 08/26/2011 ( 28 moms have responded )

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Vaccination proponents have suggested that breastfeeding should be delayed in order to prevent immune factors within breast milk from inactivating vaccine-associated antibody titer elevations and vaccine potency. - GreenMedInfo Summary

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/vacc...

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Sara - posted on 08/26/2011

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Hmmm...while this study may suggest that delaying BFing maybe be beneficial to help with the efficacy of the ROTAVIRUS vaccine, I seriously doubt it's going to become the recommendation by the WHO or AAP. It's only one vaccine that this study is commenting on, not all vaccines like the title of this article suggests, and I doubt that the risks outweigh the beneftis. To me, it seems to be blown out of proportion by anti-vax websites. Not surprising.

Kate CP - posted on 08/27/2011

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If I tried to deny my son nursing at any point...*shudders* God the yelling and screaming that would ensue...and then the engorgement and soreness I would have to endure. Yea...not happening.

Jodi - posted on 08/26/2011

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Amanda, I think Kate knows that, I am pretty sure she was being facetious. The *:P* would indicate that.

On the rotavirus thing, it was never on the schedule here when my kids were small (my youngest is 6), although I have been told by some of the other Aussies that it IS now on the schedule. I don't actually know much about it and am not even certain why it is considered a necessary vaccine.

Amanda - posted on 08/26/2011

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Man I am sick of hearing about the ROTAVIRUS vaccine, its all over the radio here in Ontario. Insisting parents get their child vaccinated for it (btw this one is not covered by our government), claiming insane numbers of children who die from it, but fail to mention those numbers are WORLD WIDE, and the estimated number of deaths in Canada is only 7, yet estimated 20 children a year die from normal diarrhea in Canada.



I am PRO vacc parent, and this is not one I was willing to give my child. There really is no point if you understand the rules to dehydration and know when your child needs to be in an ER. So no I would not give up any breastfeeding for a vaccine.

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Anissa - posted on 08/28/2011

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Of course children need to be vaccinated, but they get many immunities and better nutrition from breast milk. I would definutly keep nursing, if this was even tested enough to be founded your child's pediatrician would say something to you about it. I breast fed my daughter till she was 14mos, she had all her vaccines on time. And although she has not had a titer I trust that her vaccines did the trick. Having a titer is not fun, it's a blood work-up, they take many vials of your blood to test for various immunities.. I had one done last year for college. If her doctor becomes suspicious that her vaccines might not have worked properly then she will have one done, but for now she is a happy, healthy, and smart 2 1/2 year old.

Merry - posted on 08/28/2011

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Yeah I'm extatic if Eric goes more then 3 hours without asking to nurse and he's coming up on 2.5 years! Lol I guess I trust nature more then modern stuff when it comes down to it, I'm all for medicine and stuff when needed but if it's going to start arguing the way we are intended to feed our babies I get skeptical.

Minnie - posted on 08/28/2011

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Adelaide only began to go longer than an hour without nursing around 30 months. To deny her nursing when she was very young and couldn't comprehend in the slightest why she couldn't....ugh. I would never do that to her.

Stifler's - posted on 08/27/2011

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My kid is 3 months old and still sometimes has a feed on the bottle (formula) every 2 hours during the day.

Minnie - posted on 08/27/2011

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A baby is usually alert for that first hour and then goes into a 24 hour sleepy period.

But I don't know if this is concerning immediately after birth or later. Regardless, I don't deny my babies nursing. God...I can't even imagine denying Adelaide nursing for an hour as a very young baby.

Stifler's - posted on 08/27/2011

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Isn't it like if you breastfeed in the first hour you have a much higher chance of successfully breastfeeding? Delaying breastfeeding would just cause breastfeeding problems and poor developing countries do not need that.

Stifler's - posted on 08/27/2011

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Pffft. how are you meant to "delay" breastfeeding. You're either breast or bottle feeding and the baby is hungry.

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Rotovirus is horrible! My two younger kids got it and were hospitalised. Their weight plunged and they looked like skeletons. It went through the child care centre and lots of other kids were very sick too.



I googled it and found out that rotvirus was the biggest killer of infants worldwide! Apparently it sweeps through refugees camps and carries off all the kids. If you're in a developed country, it's unlikely you kids will die of it, but they (and you) can get very sick and you might have to miss work to look after them.



It also lasts much longer than the usual gastro bug (ie a week), and they feel TERRIBLE so it is heartbreaking (not to mention a lot of poo and vomit)...

Amanda - posted on 08/27/2011

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Sorry I dont understand internet happy faces, I just read what was said and took it literally. One major issue with the internet is you cant hear tone of type LOL.

Elfrieda - posted on 08/26/2011

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Side question: Is rotavirus the same one that is so bad if pregnant women catch it, and one thing to prevent it is to not clean the cat's litterbox?

Rosie - posted on 08/26/2011

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my kids have never had an oral vaccine. i've always assumed they got a rotavirus shot or something, but apparantly they don't make a rotavirus shot?

anyhoo, it's just a study, there's studies out there that say breastfeeding causes obesity, there's studies that say your kid is more likely to die if not breastfed, except they go by any type of death-including injuries, which obviously have nothing to do with breastfeeding. i would like to know how properly controlled everything was in the study before i make judgement.
i will say however that it didn't say to stop BF altogether, just the day of immunization. i wish there was more clarification on that.

Amanda - posted on 08/26/2011

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Kate it doesnt stop diarrhea it only stops the rotavirus that can cause diarrhea. There are 100 different other ways for your child to get diarrhea that there is no vaccine against (other then living in a bubble lol).



Btw we have all had rotavirus, by the age of 5 almost every child has had the rotavirus at least once.

Kate CP - posted on 08/26/2011

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I was never told to not breastfeed my son while he was getting his rotavirus vaccines. Hell, he hardly took the damn things because they tasted so bad. I think it's an important vaccine just because diarrhea sucks. :P

Becky - posted on 08/26/2011

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Yeah, the article is not clear what the actual recommendation is. There is a huge difference between "don't breastfeed for 6 hours after the vaccination" and "don't even start breastfeeding until 1 month after your baby has been vaccinated!" The first, I'd be willing to go along with if it was proven it really made a big difference in the effectiveness of the vaccine. The second, no way. I'm not going to deny my child all the other immunity bfing provides just for one illness. At any rate, right now it's irrelevant to me, since, as Caitlin and Heather mentioned, the Rotavirus vaccine is not routine in Canada yet anyway.

Lady Heather - posted on 08/26/2011

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What a stupid headline. My daughter never had any oral vaccine and she had every single one that was recommended by the health unit. If that's the one that's a problem then I don't give a fuck because nobody here gets it anyways.

And I have to agree with Caitlin - the study interpretation doesn't seem to suggest delaying breastfeeding for months. Just sounds like you don't do it at the time of immunization. Big whoop.

Caitlin - posted on 08/26/2011

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I don't think either of my kids had a live oral vaccine for this.. I think the pediatrician said it might be a good idea, but we never got around to it becuase it's not a part of the vaccination schedule and not covered, (unless i'm mixing this vaccine up with another one..)

They also say that the possible recommendations are to delay breastfeeding AT the time of vaccination, not UNTIL, which is a big difference as well.. If someone told me for a week after that I should feed my kid some other way, I don't think thats as big of a deal in the long run immunity wise, as long as you can keep up your supply.. I would assume that the issue THEY see is that when both are going through the baby's system at the same time, the breastmilk can affect the vaccine, but in reality, that shouldn't take more than a day or so for the vaccine to be delivered into the baby's system effectively (if not way less) so it's not like they are saying DON'T breastfeed your kid, they are saying, don't breastfeed your kid right afterwards. I don't see whats so bad about that (maybe that's just my misreading of it though).

Tracey - posted on 08/26/2011

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Seems like another case where mums can't win whatever they do. One study says Breast feed and have possible problems with vaccines, other studies say delay breastfeeding and have problems with development, immunity etc.

If my kids were still babies I would not stop breastfeeding for the sake of a vaccine.

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