Text Talk - Does it Drive You Nuts Too??

Jodi - posted on 10/02/2009 ( 54 moms have responded )

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I have to say it drives me absolutely nuts. I can't read a post or email full of text talk. It takes me so long to figure out what they are saying that I give up.



For instance, here is a post I pulled out randomly on the main site that I just can't be bothered with:



"dont stress ...i might be young bt tmrw g an do ur hair ur nails,make sure u look good an go out wit your friends make sure one or 2 of his frinds c u having fun and looking hoot.dont hang with any man juss be with your galfriends d this abt 3 tyms,an ur hubbys friends will tell him how hot and happy u are...dont beg him or show him that u are sad.an he will come bac telling u how much he loves u.

make sure he see's u wen ur goin out looking nice.

juss try it u'l c"





Is it just me, or does it drive others nuts too. I feel like saying "Will you just say in English, like REAL English????" I can't even understand half of it without having to think too hard about it. Should I be learning the new language now for fear of being put in a home down the track and not understanding what people are saying, LOL :) Do they seriously just make it up as they go along?

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Jodi - posted on 10/08/2009

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Quoting Krista:

Wait.......how is "hoot" in anyway, shape or form an abbreviation for "hot"?

I really hope that was a typo.



It's not.  I think it is pretty much determined that these kids do the text talk thing because they can't fking spell :) (Excuse the text abbreviation fking - that one comes in handy occasionally!!)

Krista - posted on 10/08/2009

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Okay, I pretty much know all computer abbreviations and slangs and I have NEVER, EVER heard ROFLPIMP. That's just retarded.

Krista - posted on 10/08/2009

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Wait.......how is "hoot" in anyway, shape or form an abbreviation for "hot"?

I really hope that was a typo.

?? - posted on 10/07/2009

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Quoting Marabeth:

and another thing.. i have never heard of laughing so hard you have to poop. pee, maybe.. but poop? i hope it never happens to me.


Oh My God. That made me laugh so hard I spit iced tea everywhere LMAO Thank you Marabeth, I needed that laugh - I have never in my life heard anyone say they  laughed so hard it nearly made them poop ROFL that's fuggin FUNNY SHIT!!!!!!!!! Pun intended HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Marabeth - posted on 10/07/2009

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what i don't understand is why wouldn't someone be embarrassed by writing in such a manner? that's just me though.. language trends always change over time. like our well read great-great grandparents would probably think we all sound like idiots because we will easily end our sentences in a preposition or use contractions when writing.. these things aren't technically correct but are widely used and generally accepted today.

and another thing.. i have never heard of laughing so hard you have to poop. pee, maybe.. but poop? i hope it never happens to me.

?? - posted on 10/06/2009

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me too I can speed read - my old babysitter and I used to have book reading competions when she would watch me. We'd get 2 of the same book and whoever could read it fastest got 'the treat' that we'd decide/agree on before we started the book. We had lil "pop quizzes" at the end to make sure we actually DID read the book and not just pretend to skim through it. Because of her I can read books at an incredible speed if I want too. I generally slow down on purpose to enjoy a book a lil longer but it's nothing for me to zoom through a book if I get into it and don't even realize it.

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Quoting Jo:

Some people can learn to speed-read and get through a 250 page book in a matter of hours and others have to take their time and read each word in order for it to make sense and be worth while.






LOL, that's me :)  A habit I learned at Uni when I was working full time and cramming to get assignments finished and to study for exams.  Its all about technique!!! My husband thinks I'm a freak - he can't believe how quickly I go through books.  I read about 4 to his 1!!!  But if they were all in text talk, well....... :)  I hope they never start publishing books in text talk, I would lose one of my favourite pastimes!

?? - posted on 10/06/2009

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Habit - the same way people figure it's easier, faster, better to walk, talk and act stupid. It's all habit.



I don't understand women that spend 10 hours gettin ready to go out for dinner but they get into the habit of having the hour long shower with the routine in the shower, then the routine when they get out of the shower, and then the routine to get dressed, then the routine to put on makeup and do their hair. But they do it - it's habit - they can't go out without doin that routine.



Some people can learn to speed-read and get through a 250 page book in a matter of hours and others have to take their time and read each word in order for it to make sense and be worth while.



It's how you learn things, if someone wanted too they could learn to read, write, act, dress, get ready, whatever - however they figured would be easier... and once it's learned and once it's habit that is the easier way.

Jodi - posted on 10/06/2009

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Quoting Lindsay:

I just had to throw my 2 cents in! I hated when I was teaching Language Arts and students would turn in entire essays written in text talk! I always anded them back without a grade and made them rewrite it. But I was actually told that I had to accept them (by an administrator)!!! Because I was teaching a low socio-economical area I was told that it was part of the "culture" and therefore acceptable. WHAT?!?!?! INSANE!!! My husband and friends make fun of me on a daily basis because all of my texts are grammatically correct! I'm sorry, I guess I'm just old fashioned and think everyone should be able to write and speak proper English.



I find that really sad.  How are these people going to get along in real life if they can't learn to write and speak English somehow?  It may be part of the "culture" in low socio-economic areas, but how on earth does society expect them to get OUT of that cycle if we continue to nurture that "culture"? 

Jodi - posted on 10/06/2009

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Quoting Jo:

dno wot ur tlkn bt is srz bznz c u l8r ok pce



Geez Jo, it took me ages to read this, and even then I only understood it when I read it out loud!!  How on earth do people think it is quicker to write an essay like this?  I just don't get it.

?? - posted on 10/06/2009

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around the same time I started saying redonkulous instead of ridiculous? lol

Esther - posted on 10/06/2009

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Drives me mad too. Also, when did we start spelling ridiculous as rEdiculous?

?? - posted on 10/05/2009

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I say it with different accents!! But only after the automatic Mr Robotic studdered robot sound out lol

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Quoting Jo:

dno wot ur tlkn bt is srz bznz c u l8r ok pce



hahaha...I have to say this stuff aloud so that the phonetics can make it all make sense.

?? - posted on 10/05/2009

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My cell phone has a qwerty keypad that flips out specifically because I CAN NOT stand tryin to decipher my own messages. When someone texts me in txt talk abbreviated words I reply with "What? Speak English."

Krista - posted on 10/05/2009

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Even when I text I do it in proper English. This is why the cell phone companies have come out with this revolutionary new thing.....it's called auto complete. Even if I want to type l8er, it will automatically put the word "later" in.

Kylie - posted on 10/05/2009

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i"m glad i don't get emails in text talk! i don't like the de-evolution of written language and I don't use my mobile either so i never have to read that annoying shit!

Krista - posted on 10/05/2009

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I'd like to find whoever decided that dumb = cool and slap 'em upside the head! WHY do kids/teens think that being dumb or pretending to be dumb is a great thing? I had all A's in high school, which meant that I wasn't part of the popular crowd, because OBVIOUSLY if you're smart or study for tests, you're no fun at all. There were girls in the "in crowd" who were smart, but they'd really lay the stupid on thick when they were with their friends, and purposely get bad marks on tests so they wouldn't get teased. I don't get it!

Sara - posted on 10/05/2009

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I think it's sad that people dumb themselves down like that. You know what I often wonder? I wonder how people like that actually make it in the world? You can't write like that at work or in school. And the girls that talk in that really exaggerated "valley girl" way (I work at a University, I have talked to many) how would they ever get a job where they talked like that in the interview? I wouldn't hire them. it's annoying. I think you can only hope that people who type like that aren't as dumb as the typing implies.

Lindsay - posted on 10/05/2009

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I just had to throw my 2 cents in! I hated when I was teaching Language Arts and students would turn in entire essays written in text talk! I always anded them back without a grade and made them rewrite it. But I was actually told that I had to accept them (by an administrator)!!! Because I was teaching a low socio-economical area I was told that it was part of the "culture" and therefore acceptable. WHAT?!?!?! INSANE!!! My husband and friends make fun of me on a daily basis because all of my texts are grammatically correct! I'm sorry, I guess I'm just old fashioned and think everyone should be able to write and speak proper English.

Jodi - posted on 10/04/2009

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My husband and I are going through job applications at the moment, and there are some we just don't bother with because of this attitude that spelling and grammar don't matter, it's the content that counts. Anyone who really wanted the job (no matter what sort of job), would have taken a lot more care.



And all this talk of spelling and grammar not mattering? That is my son's favourite subject - he is only in Year 6 and has tested at Year 10 Level (he plays a mean game of Scrabble too!!!). Does that mean it doesn't count? How do I tell him that..........all this time I have been encouraging him too, what a rotten mother!!!

Johnny - posted on 10/04/2009

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When I read a post written in text talk, I don't assume that the person is stupid, however, I don't bother to read what they have written, so in that way I am completely discounting their opinion. And I think that if you can not be bothered to try to convey your opinion or your information in somewhat of a comprehensible manner, you can not expect people to pay attention to you. There are online and computer spelling checkers that can help the spelling challenged. And I have oodles of patience for those who occasionally misspell, mistakenly repeat words, show signs of dyslexia, or clearly struggle with illiteracy. And we all make mistakes and have lazy days. But those things are all completely different than the wanton disregard for the English language displayed by text talk. It is one thing to struggle with communication, but text talk is disrespecting your readers by using a different language. How would those same people feel if I started posting in Russian?

Jocelyn - posted on 10/04/2009

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Quoting Laura:

My friend...I am only 34...still they have created a new language under our noses ;)


haha I'm only 22 and it bugs me!

Natalie - posted on 10/04/2009

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Holly, I am right there with you, though I went to high school in AL/TN, where many stereotypes hold true. Lowest common denominator education, rounded out by heavy pressure from coaches to cut all the star athletes a break. Also, our history books were pre-civil rights era texts, which was just plain awesome.

I think it's important to differentiate between struggling with spelling and grammar, and pure laziness. If a student is putting forth an effort to communicate effectively, they need to be encouraged. I think that dyslexia is probably under-diagnosed, especially since it shows up in many forms. For example, I am severely dyslexic when it comes to writing by hand, any and all numbers (dyscalculia), and reading sheet music. On the other hand, I can type with far less struggle, and reading words does not usually trouble me at all. Since I can read aloud just fine, and I typed most of my schoolwork, it took until I was seventeen for anyone to notice that it was a problem for me.

I find the people who use text talk out of laziness infuriating because it causes people who struggle in communicating with the written word to be thought of as lazy as well. I can put in the extra effort to make my words legible, why can't they? It's just disrespectful because it doesn't take into account the fact that people will have to work that much harder to understand them.

Also, hello? There's a spell check right there, it's not like it's taking them any extra effort to make it make sense!

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Quoting Mary:

It's up to the teacher...that's the nice thing about teaching in college! I have started by dividing the papers up into a pile that is well written and those that are not; I'm still thinking about how to divy up the grades. In one class (27 students), I have about three A papers, and 4-6 B papers...the rest are garbage...but as they are the first philosophy papers my students have ever written, I am concidering being marginally more kind then I might be later...I'm such a nice person ;-)



Why not give them a chance to visit a tutoring/writing center (assuming there is one where you teach) to get help revising the paper, then re-submitting it, since this is the first paper-then not so much with the other papers. They can either use the help they got (and go back before their next paper is due) or fail the next paper. We see this sort of thing a lot at the writing center where I work, and we have some specific strategies for helping students recognize and change it.

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Quoting Natalie:

I am impressed with your dedication to helping your students improve! When I graduated high school (2004), it was common for kids to ask on assignments, "Does spelling count?" In everything but English, the answer was usually no, so we learned that grammar and spelling didn't actually matter.

Something I used to do with my elementary after school kids would be to grade their work based on the right answers and correctness of information. That would be the grade that went down in the book, but I would also mark spelling and grammar mistakes, then show them the grade they would have gotten if I was grading for that. I would then inform them that from that point on, spelling and grammar did count, so they would want to avoid those mistakes in the future. On college kids, I'd probably give them the grade they deserve, then until next class to fix it or keep the grade they earned. I am cold-hearted though, and I'd have no problem failing anyone who thought text speak was an acceptable method of communication. Ahh, that stuff makes me see red!



I graduated in 2004 too and I remember getting marked down for EVERYTHING wrong in my papers (although I did have some pretty tough english teachers and my high school is 5th in the nation...) I remember my British Literature teacher (senior year) getting really mad at me because I would spell 'the' like 'teh'. She didn't understand that I have dislexia and mixed up things like that all the time! It took the counselors talking to her for her to ease up on me... She did give me an A+ on my final paper though, and I was the only one to receive that grade, but I worked on it for hours and had other people go over it to make sure there were absolutely no mistakes (I think my family and friends were sick and tired of my subject by the time I turned that paper in...). :D



Saying that, I know a lot of people are not as lucky as I was to get the quality education I did. I am in no way saying I think those who use "text talk" are stupid, I just think they are really misinformed. I recently went back to college to finish my degree (I took 3 years off to have my kids and get married) and I was suprised when a recent high school graduate (I do not live in the same area, I live in a different state now) asked the teacher if spelling and gramar counted in the term paper (no, it was not an english class, it's political science, but still...). The teacher just looked at him as if thinking "Did you really just say that?" The look on her fce was priceless and so funny!



I think what you do with your after school kids is great. They need to know that their answers are correct, but I really do think pointing out the spelling and grammar mistakes is important. I do the same thing when I am helping my 7 year-old with her homework.



I also would have no problem giving a failing grade anyone who turned in a paper (in ANY class) writted in "text talk." At college (and yes, even high school) level they should know wht is expected and know that they need to use proper english. Of course, it is the job of the teachers (and the parents) to teach the children those life skills, but it is up to the kids to use the information given to them.



As I said before, I have no problem with the occasional abbreviation or annogram in posts (IMO... LOL), but when the entire post is in "text talk" I just get  headache reading it and don't even bother. If I ask a question I want an answer in a language I can understand! :P

Natalie - posted on 10/04/2009

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I am impressed with your dedication to helping your students improve! When I graduated high school (2004), it was common for kids to ask on assignments, "Does spelling count?" In everything but English, the answer was usually no, so we learned that grammar and spelling didn't actually matter.

Something I used to do with my elementary after school kids would be to grade their work based on the right answers and correctness of information. That would be the grade that went down in the book, but I would also mark spelling and grammar mistakes, then show them the grade they would have gotten if I was grading for that. I would then inform them that from that point on, spelling and grammar did count, so they would want to avoid those mistakes in the future. On college kids, I'd probably give them the grade they deserve, then until next class to fix it or keep the grade they earned. I am cold-hearted though, and I'd have no problem failing anyone who thought text speak was an acceptable method of communication. Ahh, that stuff makes me see red!

ME - posted on 10/04/2009

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Aside from writing their papers for them, I've done everything I possibly could to help my students, so I won't feel too bad giving the worst of them a pretty bad grade. Those that are trying hard, and just didn't understand the difference between philosophy papers and other types of writing will get a good enough grade that they can still pass based on their other assignments...I'm not cold-hearted, but I also don't believe in handing out the grades just to make them (or myself) look good! I've taught high school as well, and I didn't hand out grades there either, but I know plenty of teachers who did. I had a high school senior who was reading at a 2nd grade level...by the time he left my class, he was reading at a 7th grade level...I push my students to really hard; I want them to prove to themselves that they can succeed!

Jodi - posted on 10/04/2009

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LOL. I did an Arts degree, and couldn't have imagined submitting something so scrappy - I finished my degree 10 years ago (I was a mature age student). Mary, I say mark them hard enough to teach them a lesson, but no so hard they can't learn the lesson and still get through if they try hard with their next one!!! But I don't envy you trying to read them. I find it hard enough to go through job applications and to read my emails on a daily basis!!



What bothers me, is what are the schools teaching if this is what you get???

ME - posted on 10/04/2009

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It's up to the teacher...that's the nice thing about teaching in college! I have started by dividing the papers up into a pile that is well written and those that are not; I'm still thinking about how to divy up the grades. In one class (27 students), I have about three A papers, and 4-6 B papers...the rest are garbage...but as they are the first philosophy papers my students have ever written, I am concidering being marginally more kind then I might be later...I'm such a nice person ;-)

Jodi - posted on 10/04/2009

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So Mary, what do you do with these papers? I am interested as to whether there is college policy, or is it up to the teacher?

ME - posted on 10/04/2009

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You wanna hear something really ridiculous...My college students email me and write their papers in text talk!!! I have just been reading their first set of philosophy papers, and many of them think that clauses are sentences, don't use punctuation, and don't use capital letters. It's obnoxious, and it will destroy the english language if we don't do something in the schools to put a stop to it...or address it!

?? - posted on 10/04/2009

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As much as I hate it when people don't bother to try and type properly and don't bother to try and spell properly - I don't chalk it up to them being stupid. (I use dictionary.com and I also have a spell checker in my browser) It may make them sound stupid and it is a pet peeve of mine when people are ATTEMPTING to participate in an intelligent discussion and don't bother spelling properly but I don't automatically say they're stupid cause of it.



For one there are a lot of smart ladies here on this forum who don't know how to use paragraphs, punctuation or are the best at articulating themselves (me being one of those people sometimes.)



And secondly, my partner - he's smarter than most people I know. He is a very intelligent guy - BUT - he can't spell for SHIT. He knows what a word is, knows what it means, he can say it and use it properly but ask him to spell it and you're gonna get the phonetic version of the word. It's not cause he's uneducated or that he doesn't care to learn - he just can not spell. He asks me ALL THE TIME how to spell one word or another.



And then there's people who really don't take these forums as seriously or care to put as much effort into it as some of us do. We want to put across our thoughts and opinions in an intelligent manner - they want to put across their thoughts and opinions in whatever way it gets across.



When the ladies of DM start text talking - then I have to think "ok it's a lazy day" or "they don't care right now." but I don't think you are stupid for it.



I do appreciate it when people try to spell properly, and it does annoy the hell outta me when I have to decipher a post to understand it - but I avoid the welcome page as much as possible so I haven't been exposed to it that much lately lol

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Oh goodness! I HATE the text talk too (by the way, I'm 23 years old... so I am a part of the "text generation")! I just skipped over the sample paragraph in the original post because I didn't want to give myself a headache! :P I always text using full words and it drives some of my friends crazy! I will sometimes use terms like btw (by the way) or imo (in my opinion), but I don't use them that often. I feel some of the sincerety (and yes, some of the respect I might have for the poster) when it's all in text talk. I just feel that you got an education, so you should use it and spell words out. Even I'm not the best speller, and I do have mild dislexia (did I spell that word right? tee hee hee...), so sometimes my words are a little jumbled, but at least my posts are legible! :)

Natalie - posted on 10/03/2009

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When I was in elementary school, my teachers would just mark anything they couldn't read due to bad handwriting wrong, they didn't waste their time with deciphering it. I wholeheartedly agree with this method. If you can't even put the thought into how you're spelling the words, how can I trust that you've put thought into what you're saying? It's probably not worth the effort on my part.

Charlie - posted on 10/03/2009

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I don't use it even when i text but i don't think it's annoying either its just the evolution of language unfortunately , some countries it is acceptable to answer exam questions in this " language " .

Sharon - posted on 10/03/2009

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Agreed. I don't use text lingo when I'm texting either. It takes to long to think of the text lingo word or phrase. I can type nearly as fast on my qwerty pad as I can on my keyboard anyway. Woe to those who get texts from me... my brother complains about the "book" I send him each time.

Jodi - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Dawn:

Ok I'm really bad but what does ROFL stands for and dd? I have friends that use this and have not a clue. Is there a web site for deciphering this stuff?


Apparently there is, but I can't remember where. I was watching one of our morning programs one morning and they had a young guy on there explaining to those of us who only know how to speak and read English that there is a website where you can learn this shit!!  WTF????  I learned English, why should I have to learn this?  Why can't these kids learn English instead?  I mean, that makes sense doesn't it?  Its just lazy!



I swear, if my kids start writing notes to me in text talk, or even their homework, I will screw it up and throw it at them.



Like you, Diana, I don't even use it when I'm texting!!

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ROTFL = Rolling On The Floor Laughing



ROTFLMFAO - ROTFL + My Fucking Ass Off



ROTFLPIMP - ROTFL + Pooping In My Pants ( I don't use this one)



IMO or IMHO = In My Opinion or Humble Opinion



MIL FIL SIL = Mother In Law, Father In Law etc



STFU = Shut The Fuck Up



KMA = Kiss My Ass

Dawn - posted on 10/03/2009

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Ok I'm really bad but what does ROFL stands for and dd? I have friends that use this and have not a clue. Is there a web site for deciphering this stuff?

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It annoys the hell out of me too! I have a 12 year old cousin on my facebook and she types all of her status updates like this: I'mmmm sooo ggoinng outt furrr a wokkk tonittte! I had to respond to one asking 'whattt's uppp withhh aaall the exxxtra lettterss' and she said that 'it'ss jussst forrr funnn'. Huh??



I totally agree that using proper English should be a requirement of this site. I would LOVE it if that became a rule, and all the idiotic, unreadable posts were automatically deleted! Or maybe, right beside the 'encouraging' button, there could be another one that says 'indecipherable', or 'infuriating!'

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It bugs the crap out of me and makes someone appear uneducated. There is a proper time & place for text linog, and that is on a text message! Not in an email or message forum. I refuse to allow my students to submit any work with text language. While I am up to date on the abbreviations, I still want to stress the importance of texting in a proper time & place, appearing educated, and making a smart decision as to who your audience is. Using text language to a teacher in an assignment, including a rough draft, guarantees a big fat 'F'.

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Oh, it drives me absolutely bananas. I don't even use it when I'm writing text messages. I work as a tutor, and I see this kind of thing in academic papers. It's difficult to "gently" explain that, while it may be acceptable in informal communication, text talk is not ok to use in formal, academic papers. *sigh*

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Haha Lindsay, I had to ask Sharon what rotflmao stood for and im only 23 too! lol



It buys the shit out of me, sometimes I don't even bother with posts spelt incorrectly or with text lingo. I have a friend on my facebook page who types each word with a Capital at the beginning. Or wHen thEy TypE liKe tHiS

Lindsay - posted on 10/02/2009

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It confuses the hell out of me! There are a few things I understand shortening like ROFL and those things but what I really don't get is why they change the spelling of words and they end up being just as long or longer than the correct form. On the original post it refers to just as juss. That is just ignorant.....Oh yeah, and I'm only 23 and still don't understand.

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omg rofl Icant blev tht u think ppl need to speel... hahha...sch n old idea! ;P

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Well I'm not 40 and it pisses me off.



Its ignorant. Especially the ones with qwerty key pads - and obviously the halfwits have a realy keyboard in front of them.



I don't let my son use text talk excessively- if he can't spell the real word, he can't use the text form. Since I frequently read his texts and get transcripts (result of a naughty picture someone sent him) I quiz him about his spelling.



Most of those women using text stalk - CAN'T actually spell.



Honest to god I don't know how a teacher in a highschool can let kids graduate unable to spell "because".



I've asked and asked that a rule be implented here that proper english be used since this is an international forum



I can't imagine that poor woman from singapore trying to decipher text talk. Or some of the other countries.



I belong to another internation forum and the proper english rule is strictly enforced. It keeps bratty kids away, which I LOVE!

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