The Sissy Experiment

Nancy - posted on 06/08/2011 ( 15 moms have responded )

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I just came across the article about the, "Sissy Experiment". If you don't know the story you can find it here: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/07/sissy.b...

I'm absolutely shocked that this could happen, but then in those time not much attention was paid to child abuse. In my opinion if someone is gay, this person will and can not change how he feels. I can not imagine beating a child so he changes the way he feels. Also, there is quite some boys who play with dolls and grow up to be straight.
After reading the story the mom blames the therapist and I'm sure their will be a law suit. However, to me she is just as guilty for allowing her husband to beat the crap out of her son. The beating should have never been an option. So what do you moms think?? Are the parents just as guilty as the therapists who did the experiment??

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Jodi - posted on 06/09/2011

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This has NOTHING to do with "those times". Sorry, but he would be pretty much my age if he lived (I would be a couple of years younger), and I have a gay brother who displayed ALL the signs mentioned from a young age. It was NOT a big deal.

This is everything to do with ignorance and not accepting your child for the person they are and nothing to do with the times.

I think you will find there are still people (even on this very board) who would freak out at their boy playing with dolls, or wearing nail polish, or anything "feminine". In fact, I'm betting there are even some good Christian people still beating it out of their sons. Heck, there are still therapy sessions for these very abnormal boys. And I think you will find that many still suicide. It's disgusting.

This article is so sad. It made me think of one of the guys I went to school with who hung himself because he couldn't face a life being gay. He was 27 and was found by his new wife - who he married because it was what was expected of him.

They are all guilty, parents AND therapist. And society has a lot to answer for.

Jaime - posted on 06/09/2011

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That is aweful, when my son was a toddler his favorite color was pink and he loved babies and so he found a pink baby doll and I let him have it. He still loves playing with baby dolls but he also plays with boys things like action figures and his trucks. I think people are just close minded and stupid. All that father taught his son was hate and abuse that he will carry with him forever. I am so sick with this world sometimes :( It makes me cry

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Amanda - posted on 06/10/2011

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yep i think the parents are definatly just as guilty...they abused the child..i do not care if they said the doctor told them to do it...ppl have the little voice in them that tells them right from wrong and in what sense is beating a child for any reason right? i also do not agree with changing ur child...i honestly believe that u are born gay the same way to are born with brown hair or blue eyes..it is a part of u and always will be and instead of people being afraid of it i think people should grow up and just deal with it..it does not mean that they are any different from us...if i found out today that my son was gay i would still be his mom..i would not look at him any differently because he would still be the same boy that i brought home from the hospital..that i taught things to and he has played with dolls before and i have an uncle who played with dolls and now is married to a woman and has kids...this is crazy and sickening..

Mommy - posted on 06/10/2011

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The parents absolutely are just as guilty. I teach Psychology classes at a college by me, and you would be surprised the level of ignorance displayed in the classroom among seemingly rationale adults. Hmosexuality is not a choice, and I wish people would start understanding that. The things people will put their children through to gain social acceptance is atrocious. I feel so terrible for those mentioned in the video, and any others that were affected by this. The parents should be ashamed of themselves for putting their child through this. And if any receives reparations for this, it definitely should not be this man's mother or father!

Joanna - posted on 06/09/2011

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quoted from the article: "Kirk's mother said she believes the experimental therapy destroyed Kirk's life.
"I blame them for the way his life turned out," she said. "If one person causes another person's death, I don't care if it's 20 or 50 years later, it's the same as murder in my eyes."

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I can't believe she is blaming them but not putting any on herself. In MY eyes, from her statement, she should be considered a murderer, too. Shame on them all for doing that to a poor boy.

My dad played with dolls growing up (his only cousin was a girl, and his brother was much older and didn't like playing with him). He's a wonderful, caring, nurturing, and still very masculine guy.

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Quoting Lissa "What worries me even more is I have seen a number of questions on COM from parents worrying about their sons playing with dolls etc. "

I'm actually not too concerned at all over those questions. They mainly come from 1st time moms who simply question it. Then move on when they learn it is perfectly normal. I did the very same thing when my son was 2-3 years old and loved to wear my clothes and would walk around wearing a "dress". I questioned it, moms of boys all said it was normal. I moved on. My now-6-year-old wouldn;t be caught in a dress now ;-) I joked about it with him a few weeks back as we were gonig through old pics!

Lissa - posted on 06/09/2011

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It's the parents, the therapists and any other adult who knew and did nothing.
What worries me even more is I have seen a number of questions on COM from parents worrying about their sons playing with dolls etc. I wonder how far, if at all we have come.

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OMG I saw that last night on CNN with Anderson Cooper sharing that heart-wrenching story! Shocking! Appauling! Disgusting! I feel for that family and the sister was right by saying that those books NEED to be updated by acknowledging her brother.
I have to say that an experiement like that NOW, in 2011, woudl never happen! Yeah, yeah, I know that sounds naiive to say, but I have to believe that more an dmore researchers have to dodge the ethical playing field in order for their research to be granted and published.

JuLeah - posted on 06/09/2011

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Heartbreaking, but I agree with his sister. How did he make it that long? He was a very strong person.
The fear, the hate, the ignorance .... we have done this to folks for other reasons.
Yes, the parents' are just as guilty.

Nancy - posted on 06/09/2011

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Jodi, what I tried to say with, "those times" is that everybody turned the other way. Today in many cases, child abuse gets caught and the therapist and parents are facing the consequences!

Katherine - posted on 06/09/2011

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Sounds like something Freud would do. We were way past that in the 70's.

That little boy was tortured beyond belief and the study was horrible. I cannot express my anger enough.

Charlie - posted on 06/09/2011

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That is sick , the parents and the therapist should be held accountable.

Lacye - posted on 06/08/2011

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This is disgusting. To beat a child because he wanted to play with dolls? It's horrible. What parent in their right mind would abuse their child like this? I know things like this happen but omg, it's still disturbing to read about it.

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