The Westboro Baptist Church and Revulsive Fred Phelps

Sharon - posted on 03/04/2011 ( 13 moms have responded )

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/03/us.west...

(CNN) -- A day after the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed Westboro Baptist Church's right to protest against homosexuality at military funerals, the fallen Marine's father, who unsuccessfully sued the controversial Kansas congregation, warned that the church's protests will eventually spark violence.

"Something is going to happen," Albert Snyder told CNN Thursday. "Somebody is going to get hurt."

"You have too many soldiers and Marines coming back with post-traumatic stress syndrome, and they (the Westboro protesters) are going to go to the wrong funeral and the guns are going to go off."

"And when it does," Snyder said. "I just hope it doesn't hit the mother that's burying her child or the little girl that's burying her father or mother. It's inevitable."

In an 8-1 decision, the high court ruled Wednesday that Westboro Baptist Church has a First Amendment right to picket military funerals, no matter how "hurtful" the message may be. The decision ended Snyder's five-year court fight on behalf of his late son, Matthew, a Marine lance corporal killed in Iraq, whose funeral was picketed by Westboro church members.

Albert Snyder again slammed the high court justices for not having "the common sense that God gave a goat."



Family reacts to verdict

2010: Free speech vs. privacy

2008: Protesting Fred Phelps "I just can't believe that there was no common sense used in this decision," Snyder said.

Because of the ruling, Snyder will have to pay $116,000 in court costs to the Rev. Fred Phelps, the pastor of Westboro.

"The worst part of this," Snyder said, "is I know they are going to use that money to do this to other soldiers."

Snyder recalled his son's funeral.

"When my son died, I knew two days ahead of time that they were coming," Snyder said. "I had other children that I had to worry about that didn't know what was going on."

"Because of (the protesters') presence, I had police coming out of the woodwork, I had sheriffs. I had a SWAT team. I had emergency vehicles. I had media coming in," Snyder said. "All I wanted to do was have a private dignified funeral for my son.

"They turned it into a three-ring circus," Snyder said.

When asked what his next step will be, Snyder replied. "The thing that just hits me the hardest is all the hatred in this country."

"And I think if I wanted to look to what I'm going to do in the future, I feel like that maybe there's where I need to be," Snyder said, "to try do something with all the hatred that's in this country."

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I think Snyder is right. 1. this is going to end in gunfire. 2. why is the supreme court allowing these bastards to intrude on a personal moment? what if this were at arlington?

I really wish someone would just shoot phelps in the head and firebomb his followers. goddamn them for exacerbating someones' pain. the death of a father, a child. How dare they?

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Johnny - posted on 03/04/2011

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Personally, I'd like to see the media completely ignore them. Currently their mission is being abetted by all the attention they get. I think protesters who want to oppose them should simply by 8 x4 sheets of plywood, head out to their next "rally" and form a large circle around the protests that blocks their signs and stupid faces from the grieving family and the media cameras. No point in yelling at them or carrying the opposing message, bigotry this deep will never change. You can't silence them but you can stop their message from getting out and hopefully protect the families.

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Isobel - posted on 03/04/2011

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That's what I like about our laws here...you are free to protest anything you want...just not to incite hate against people just for being who they are.

Isobel - posted on 03/04/2011

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My friend actually DID have to warn people about protesters at her wedding though...she got married downtown Toronto this summer during the G20 summit :O

we actually watched police cars burning from the reception :(

Sharon - posted on 03/04/2011

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I don't have a problem (well not much of one) with them protesting a government function.

I don't have a problem with them protesting in general.

But how would you feel if they showed up across from your wedding and chanted long and loud and disrupted your wedding?

How would you feel if they protested your hospital while you were giving birth?

Its the same thing. They are protesting a Non event.

I don't dispute their right to gather and protest. I dispute their right to do it during a funeral.

Rosie - posted on 03/04/2011

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i'm torn on this one. freedom of speech is obviously part of our constitution, and i'd like to see that upheld -although it's not with gay marriage, but anyhoo...doing it at a funeral is what makes me think there has to be some type of privacy law or something that these sick fucks can't get around. why isn't there?? it makes me want to puke that this man has to pay phelps court fees, fucking disgusting.

Sharon - posted on 03/04/2011

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I still don't see how its legal to protest a burial. Or at a burial. These families have paid for a minister. A burial plot. etc. It's a private paid for moment. They're interfering with that. never mind the emotional aspect.

These people have publicly stated that their intention is to bring emotional harm to those who have lost loved ones in a war. how can that be allowed? If someone said "I'm going to fuck with my kids heads until they are crazy" they'd lose their kids?

Sharon - posted on 03/04/2011

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LOL Rebecca - my grandfather was a baptist minister. I'm not gonna look crosswise at kansans or baptists.

Mrs. - posted on 03/04/2011

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Oh and as a person who's family on both sides are from Kansas. These people are not real Kansas folks. Please don't think all people from Kansas or even Topeka are like this.

Mrs. - posted on 03/04/2011

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As horribly f'd up I think those people are - I know why the courts are letting them protest. Unfortunately, those assholes right to protest has to be as protected as people who aren't assholes or crazy as fuck. It's screwed up.

The best thing that can be done with those wackos is for everyone to ignore them. They love the attention, it's exactly what they are looking for.

Either that or we can organize a protest for every one of the church member's parent's or child's funeral. Why not? You can choose to protest what ever you like. You could hold up signs like Kevin Smith's fan's did at Sundance that say things like Dick Tastes Yummy. It goes both ways. But, who wants to waste anymore time on these idiots?

Lindsay - posted on 03/04/2011

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You want to know what I think of Westboro Baptist Church protests?? Sick, disgusting, intolerant fucks.

This group is planning a protest in my town this weekend. They just need to go away. ugh!

Sharon - posted on 03/04/2011

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BTW - anyone who wants to comment to the Rev.ulsive Phelps...

Give them a call: Fred W. and Margie M. Phelps, Sr.
Westboro Baptist Church
3701 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
phone: 785-273-0325 and 785-273-0338
fax: 785-273-9228

Karl and Deborah Kay Hockenbarger
James Hockenbarger/Jennifer Hockenbarger
1929 S.W. Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: (913) 233-1848
K-K-Karl’s work: 785-296-3959

Fred W. Phelps. Jr. and Betty Phelps
3600 S. W. Holly Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-272-4135
Jr.’s work: 785-296-3195

Margie J. Phelps
3734 S.W. 12th
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-7380
work: 785-296-3317

Ben Phelps
3632 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-233-4162

Rebekah Phelps-Davis and Chris Davis-Phelps
1216 S.W. Cambridge
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-272-7741

Shirley Phelps-Roper and Brent Roper-Phelps
Sam Phelps-Roper
3640 S.W. Churchilll
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-1445/273-0277/272-1619
Shirley’s work: 785-233-4162
Brent’s work (Foot Locker) 785-273-0068

Jonathan and Paulette Phelps
840 S.W. Watson
Topeka, Kansas 66606
Jonathan’s work: 785-233-4162
Elizabeth Phelps
2001 S.W. 2nd Street
Topeka, Kansas 66606
home: 785-234-9694
work: 785-233-0822

Abigail Phelps
3636 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
785-273-7262
work: 785-296-7709

Charles W. and Mary Hockenbarger
711 N.W. Page
Topeka, Kansas 66617
home: 785- 246-1567

Rachel Phelps Hockenbarger and Charles F. Hockenbarger
1284 S.W. Hillsdale
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-271-1619

Tim and LeAnn Phelps
3743 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-4780
Tim’s work: 785-291-5100
Leann’s work: phone: 785-233-4162

Theresa Davis
3632 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
work: 785-291-700

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