Turning to "god"

Tania - posted on 06/24/2011 ( 17 moms have responded )

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A little background
In the last 6 year I have been through A LOT health wise. I have type 1 diabetes and have always been what they call "brittle"...think Julia Roberts in Steel Magnolias. "Your special Shelby" that’s me.
In 2005 my eye site started going. I had several aggressive eye surgeries in that year and the doctors were able to give me 20/40 vision.
In 2006 I was diagnosed with stage 4 kidney disease and had to endure some painful procedures as well as dialysis.
I received my new kidney in Sept 2007 from my Dad.
Recently I went to one of my eye specialists for a follow up. I ran into the mother of a friend of my son Ben who is a born again Christian.
She also goes to the same church as my doc. After our appointments we chatted for a bit and she mentioned that the doctor said I would a perfect candidate for ministry. When I ask why she said because she knows all I had been through and the path to god would fulfill me.
I politely refused and that was the end.
I suppose god can help some people but why it assumed if you have been through something you need religion to get you through. I have my family and friends...they were and are my support team.
I am happy and not "sick" anymore why would I need to be "saved"?

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Johnny - posted on 06/24/2011

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I suppose it is sort of in the same vein as how atheists are always told that when something horrible happens in our lives or that we are on our death beds that we will turn to god. It seems to be believed to be an absolute fact and inevitability.

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What would annoy me more is the blatant breach of doctor/patient confidentiality. Your doctor has no right discussing your health with a third party.

Rosie - posted on 06/24/2011

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it is rather annoying, but at the same time i try to look at it with a positive light. they are just concerned, and in their mind they have reason to be. where it crosses the line for me is when in doesn't stop, which luckily for me hasn't happened (probably because nobody knows i'm not "saved" any longer), but i've heard a few doozies on here that make me shake my head. can't people just leave it alone?

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Tania - posted on 06/25/2011

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@Sarah and Sara....no worries about my doc. My son and the woman's son are good friends and he talks to him all the time so she knew everything already. My doc just mentioned that I would be a candidate for ministry.

Sal - posted on 06/24/2011

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i had a very similar conversation with my son today, he has some "christain" freinds who are always trying to help him find god, the line i told him to say was "my relationshi with jesus is a personal one between us" it is working so far, but i was saying today that i have just never "found" god, and maybe i am a little bit jealous of people who have, but i do find that often they sound a little dis genuine, like a battered wife saying how great her husband is, but i have never felt the need to be saved either, i was once approached by some born agains that i knew to be cleans of my sin, they ment my son and i polietly tolf them god and i were fine, i was a good mum and that is more importannt than being a christain

Amanda - posted on 06/24/2011

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Family and friends are always good to have for things like this. I am glad that you are not sick any more! as far as being saved...that is talking about your sins being forgiven by Jesus, Even if you are not sick any more. God is not just a support team, He is the One that can forgive your sins for eternity in Heaven. That's why I believe it is important to have a relationship with God. I know that a lot of ppl these days don't really want anything to do with God, but I personally believe that God answers prayer, from personal issues I have had myself. Anyway, whatever you do with your life is up to you and I wish you well :)

Mrs. - posted on 06/24/2011

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Tania, I too, have been considered "special" over the years due to my litany of surgeries and health issues. Like you, I have had people tell me, if only I would give my life over to Jesus, my health issues would resolve. Personally, when someone says they are praying for me, I think, I guess it is good because someone is thinking about me, but I'd rather they actually were to like pick me up at the docs office or watch my daughter for an hour.

Everyone says things like, "There are no atheists in foxholes."

Okay...Well, the closer to death and being handicapped I have gotten, the further away I've gotten from some religious awakening and the closer I've gotten to just putting value on those I love the most. That's what is deep in my heart in the end of it all, just those I love and the moments I shared with them. No man with a beard or vision of Jesus in a stained hospital gown.

I do know, this is not the case for some though. It is good to hear I'm not this huge freak in feeling that way though...sometimes I feel a bit outnumbered in a chronic illness group. Lots of people waiting for Jesus to heal their pain and not really being proactive about actually helping themselves.

Sara - posted on 06/24/2011

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I agree with Sarah. The fact that the doctor was discussing me with an outside third party without my permission is setting himself up for a lawsuit. Which you would win by the way!! I would switch doctors if mine dared to do that!!

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I'm glad you are not sick anymore and that you had an amazing support system. =)

As far as being 'saved' it means from sin....not from bad things happening.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/24/2011

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Wow! You are sure a survivor. I am so glad that your health is improving.

Some people really find comfort in God, or the thought of someone being out there looking out for us. Even if we get sick, and our health turns for the worst, having faith in heaven and seeing all of your deceased loved ones, and God gives people comfort. It is something to bvelieve in, when all else is failing.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 06/24/2011

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I have family like that as well.
My father lives in Wisconsin and im the daughter that calls him on the regular, well one time for two weeks I did not call because I was sick, both my sons, and my SO..and when I finally did call he asked "did the devil make you not call me" he was very serious about it. I said dad I am my own person I chose not to call you.

Anyway....well never mind I will keep that to myself, I can't think of a way to say what I want without offending those who are religious

"I'f you can't say anything nice, dont say anything at all"

Tania - posted on 06/24/2011

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My Grandmother is the same. Always a card in the mail and a rosery or charm.
I hope your sister is doing ok.

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My MIL is sort of like that-but more Catholic and not preachy. When we were going through years of struggling to conceive, my MIL would send me these Saint cards in the mail with biblical passages. We'd get a chuckle because no amount of devine intervention was going to get me pregnant and save the pregnancy. Lo & behold, it was a simple fix-medication--->science! But if it helped my MIL to believe that her prayer helped my pregnancy, then so be it. My MIL also prayed and sent prayer cards when my mother, brother, & sister all went through their kidney issues, dialysis, & transplants as well. Every week when we talk to MIL on the phone, she'll always end with a prayer for someone! Right now it's a prayer for my sister cause she's still on the transplant list. So of course we are polite, but no amount of praying is going to miracously drop a kidney on her doorstep! MIL went through a short preachy time frame, but it coincided with her retriement & my BIL's divorce. But we're also grateful she's 2400 miles away!

Tania - posted on 06/24/2011

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Exactly Sharon, thats why I politely refused and I don't believe she was offended by my choice either.

I guess the assumption is what irked me a bit. , that I needed some sort of higher power to get me through. My Grandmother and my Aunt are religious and I know it helps them o pray and I don't think I can count how many prayer lines I was on. I just believe I got through it with extremely capable doctors and support from my loved ones.

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"I have my family and friends...they were and are my support team."



This is my way of thinking too. I am not a religious person, although I was raised in a religious home. But I do not believe in a higher power of faith, and Jesus Christ was definately not part of my religion that requires saving. However, I do respect those who are strong in their faith and turn to God/Lord/JC/Allah/Buddah, etc if that comforts then, and helps guide through tough times. If friends ask for prayers, I usually reply "I'm thinking of you" and I truly am. I just don't "pray". I dislike preachiness and trying to 'save' me, trying to persuade me to attend church or visit their service. I dislike door-to-door invitations and getting really sick of flyers, mailers, and brochures stuck to my door!

Firebird - posted on 06/24/2011

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"The Gods will do nothing for us that we will not do for ourselves."
I can't remember who said that, but it's very true. Religion and 'god' didn't help you through your tough times, real live people did. I just don't understand that mentality either.

The thought of having an immortal, supposedly all-power being fighting in their corner is what gets some people through the day, so I guess they can't imagine anyone living without it.

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in the religious ones' defense, it does help occasionally to be somewhat religious. i, personally, am not very religious, but merely because i'm not a people person. i can't stand the whole "fellowship" thing, and i think that's why most people use religion. i'm more spiritual, though my ideas differ from most people in my area. that's another reason the whole religious aspect doesn't appeal to me. i guess i would fit the "agnostic" definition more easily than "spiritual" but i do believe in a higher being.

the whole thing about being "saved" is that religion believes in there being a life after death, and christians believe that life after death means being with God or Jesus. but being "saved" is not necessarily something to think about when things are only going bad for you, it's also something to think about when things are going good to make sure that things keep going good.

i was sort of raised southern baptist. but i don't agree with all the christian teachings. most of them annoy me.

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