Unisex school toilets

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User - posted on 04/14/2014

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Apple, please do not generalise about what women think and what men think. Some men are abusers, most are not. Some women are abusers, most are not. You have offered nothing other than your own opinion to back up your statements.

You as a mum may tell your daughters it's ok to touch boys' genitals, I do not. I am teaching my daughter to respect her own body and other people's bodies, male or female.

User - posted on 04/12/2014

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Apple, I would like to see the statistical evidence for your claims that as many women abuse boys as men abuse girls.

I don't know where you're from, but in the UK your joint Brownies and Cub scout event breaks so many child protection guidelines it doesn't bear thinking about, not least that you as leaders allowed and seemed to tacitly encourage them to touch each other inappropriately.

Sorry, I smell a rat.

Personally, I think separate toilets are better. Adults have separate public toilets, why shouldn't children?

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i don't really like the idea of boys and girls sharing bathrooms at those ages. I feel like it would create safety issues, especially for girls, who are often targets of sexual harassment and assault. I just think that boys and girls, once they hit puberty, should have separate bathrooms. I also fail to see how having unisex bathrooms would decrease bullying in any way. If anything I think it would increase it

Allison - posted on 02/06/2012

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i guess i dont understand how this would cut down on bullying. wouldn't it just be more likely to increase bullying and sexual harrasment? was it just my area that is that f-ed up

Sylvia - posted on 02/04/2012

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I like the design (more privacy), but I don't know about the unisex thing -- imagine the mortification of the boy/girl you like hearing you pee, or worse ... (Although of course there will always be some proportion of the student population who has this problem in single-sex washrooms.) High school is already so full of opportunities for (real or imagined) humiliation ...



Where I live, adults are not allowed in student washrooms during school hours (or at any other time when students might be using them). I think this policy is unnecessarily paranoid -- teachers should at least be allowed to stick their head in and holler when there are obvious shenanigans occurring -- but I certainly don't think there should be a teacher lurking in there at all times. I mean, give the kids *some* credit.



I've used unisex washrooms as an adult, and I think they're fine -- the stalls are always designed to be totally private (walls and doors all the way down to the floor and up to the ceiling), which probably also means they're more soundproof, and because all possible stalls are available to both sexes, you don't get the problem of HUGE lines for the ladies' washroom but a nonexistent line for the men's.



My university dorm also had unisex washrooms (with stalls), and there were never any terrible consequences that I know of. I mean, occasionally you'd go in there to pee and realize after a minute that someone was having sex in one of the shower stalls (ew), but if you're living on a university campus, well, sooner or later that sort of thing is bound to happen ... :P

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♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/25/2014

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Apple Way, how many times can you contradict yourself in one post?

FYI, your 'story' about brownies and cub scouts sharing the same locker room? It's just that, a STORY. Neither organization, with the regulations that both have in place, would allow an activity that exposed children of opposite genders to each other in a state of undress. That violates every rule in each of their books, and the leaders, had there actually BEEN an event, would have been at minimum released from their leadership duties, and possibly prosecuted for violation of those rules.

Having been BOTH a GS and a BS leader, I can guarantee that particular post was full of shit.

Please stop trying to incite people into argument. It is not an attractive trait, and it's not allowed on CoM. Read the guidelines. And stop posting obvious lies. Anyone with a wit of brains knows that your post about the cub scouts and brownies is fiction.

Mrs. - posted on 02/05/2012

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For some reason this makes me think of the "futuristic" unisex showers in Starship Troopers. Just me?

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I use a unisex restroom at work for faculty only.



There is a single stall unisex restroom in the library, guidance office, and adminsitrative office for those parents/students/visitors.



As far as a unisex restroom for students? Hell no that would never happen! I'm like the others, the sound of hearing me do my business by a guy, even now, would mortify me!

Tracey - posted on 02/05/2012

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The schools have separate adult bathrooms that are no-where near the kids ones.

Sylvia - posted on 02/04/2012

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To be honest, Sherri, I have no idea -- I would assume that visiting adults use the staff washrooms. I've never actually been in the building long enough to need the washroom (I work f/t, so I'm only there for things like parent-teacher conferences, Curriculum Night, and concerts), but I know there are a few parents who spend time in the building during the day, so there must be some arrangement ...



Like I said, I think it's a paranoid policy. But then, I'm the mum who's been sending her kid into the ladies' on her own since she was 5.

Tracey - posted on 02/04/2012

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We would not be allowed to have a teacher in the bathrooms for child protection, even if a kid is being ill we are not allowed in there.



Of the kids questioned half the girls said they would refuse to use the unisex bathrooms and would wait until they got home to go to the toilet. I would prefer to have 2 smaller one sex bathrooms.

Merry - posted on 02/03/2012

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I like the look of it with private locking stalls. I think the answer is not in making it unisex.

I couldn't imagine pooping and farting while my crush is in there or worse yet a male teacher!

If the outside door is frosted glass that's fine. But if it's the actual stall doors heck no!

How does it minimize bullying to put both genders together?

Can't they do two new rest rooms like the picture?

That would be great IMO!

Bonnie - posted on 02/03/2012

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No I don't agree with this at all. For kindergarteners, that is how it is, they share a bathroom, but otherwise I don't agree with it and I don't see how that would cut down on bullying. If anything, I think boys would be a lot more curious than they already are, especially 15-18 year olds.

Stifler's - posted on 02/03/2012

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I don't see how this will cut down on bullying. The whole blurred glass and boys in the next stall thing would have some teenage girls/boys going through awkward puberty feeling very uncomfortable.

Johnny - posted on 02/02/2012

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I don't know about high school. Our toilets stank, even teenagers wouldn't have considered staying in there long enough to have sex. In my college dorms there were unisex bathrooms. Stalls for toilets and showers. We got used to it. No one was ever caught doing any funny business in there and it was college. Although it was easy enough to do it in our rooms, so I guess no one bothered with the bathroom. I've never understood the reasoning behind gender separate bathrooms, aside from the fact that men stink and women smell like roses ;-)

Janice - posted on 02/02/2012

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I must of went to a school like Laura's because sex in the bathroom was my very first thought. I went to small HS (98 graduated in my class) and there definitely wasnt enough staff to monitor every bathroom every break.

I think unisex toilets is not the best idea. I agree with Joy and Mary that no teenage girl would want to deal with her period in a bathroom shared by teenage boys.

However, the current bathrooms sound horrific! I think the design pictured looks great. Couldn't they just build two smaller versions, one for each gender?

Jodi - posted on 02/02/2012

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I'm suspecting your schools are larger than the ones I've dealt with.....because regular monitoring has always been sufficient in my world.

Jodi - posted on 02/02/2012

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I never heard of teachers permanently monitoring the bathrooms, just as part of their rounds.

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Our schools have attendants in the bathrooms too--not during classes, but between classes and during lunch and other breaks. Not always teachers though, ours use a combination of security guards, teachers, and other staff members.



I don't like the idea of unisex bathrooms like those. I don't like the frosted glass either.

Isobel - posted on 02/02/2012

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I knew lots of people who would be having sex in those private stalls :/

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Mary, I was thinking along those exact lines. When I was a teenager, the thought of peeing or doing ANYthing bathroom related where a boy could hear me? Well, I'd have held it all day or gotten a pass to go during class lol



I like the idea of people having a certain amount of privacy in public for these kinds of needs. I'm not saying it's the worst idea I've ever heard but.....I'd venture to guess that if you asked the kids who would have to actually USE these unisex bathrooms what they thought.....they probably like their privacy too.

Mary - posted on 02/02/2012

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Initially I thought no as well, but when I looked at the picture in the article, I re-thought it. If I'm understanding this correctly, the stalls themselves are private, with regular dividers between them. The blurred glass would only be into the hallway. Privacy while using the actual toilet would still be complete. It just means that your form would be (blearily) visible while not in the stall.



I'm not sure they should be unisex, but a design like that picture seems ideal to be implemented for both sexes. As a teen girl, the thought of any boy hearing that unmistakable sound of me opening up that tampon wrapper would have been mortifying.

Caitlin - posted on 02/02/2012

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sounds like a bad idea. what they did in my high school was put cameras outside the bathrooms seeing who was gong in and coming out, so they could check who was where if anything happened (people apparently used to set fires in the bathroom garbage bins - that stopped really fast)..

Jodi - posted on 02/02/2012

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You know, at first I just read your post and thought, I really don't know, I'll have to think about it. Then I opened the article. Not only unisex toilets. Unisex toilets with BLURRED GLASS. Um, no, I don't think it is a good idea.



Why can't they do what they did back when I was at school, and have regular checks by teachers during recess/lunch times to ensure there were not kids congregating in the toilet areas?

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