Unschooling?

Jessica - posted on 04/20/2010 ( 14 moms have responded )

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What do you think?



http://news.yahoo.com/video/health-15749...



I think there are pros and cons, more cons but I can kind of see their side. I do believe their kids will have a diadvantage when it comes time to work and to be a productive member of society.



What about the second family? Children not having any boundaries or consequences for their actions, is this realistic in today's world or are the parent's doing way more harm than good?

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Lindsay - posted on 04/21/2010

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I think this is absolutely the worst thing a parent could do to their child(ren). It's basically setting them up for disappointment as soon as they reach adulthood. How in the world do these parents expect their kids be able to be a successful adult when they are setting them up to not even be able to get a high school diploma? I'm all for expanding on a child's interests but that should be in addition to a structured education. It should not be the only thing they learn.

Now as far as homeschooling, I feel they are in two different categories. The homeschoolers I knew growing up actually had a ciriculum to follow. And I think it can very very successful as long as the parents are devoted to covering all aspects outside of school-work like making sure their children are social and exposed to things outside of the home.

For my family, we will stick with our rules and schools. My kids are encouraged to explore, learn, socialize and be active. They are also expected to do their chores and obey the rules. It's my hope that they will become good, well-rounded, flexible, productive members of society. And also have a great time on their way to adulthood! =)

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You must understand that they did their story on the most extreme end of the unschooling pool in order to get the viewers talking and watching their product. I home school - and have since 1993. We were talking about this at our weekly Park Day. Even the most radical families in our group are not THAT extreme!

Most of us do a bit of learning on the fly and call that unschooling, but everything else - family structure, nutrition, social norms are all "normal." I only put that in quotes because we have a very disparate group - Christian,pagan, atheists schooling styles from relaxed to VERY structured, as well as several families dealing with kids all over the Autism Spectrum or learning differences.


And, you know, showing everyone that does not homeschool how horrible it is and how sad it is for the kids that are being "uneducated" will make you all more likely to vote in laws making it more difficult to homeschool. Brought to you, I'm sure, by the national teachers' unions.

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Kylie - posted on 04/24/2010

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Here's a blog on the topic..it's interesting to get some answers from parents who unschool http://womanuncensored.blogspot.com/2010...
I'm not sure how i feel on the topic...i think this type of learning would be beneficial to young children and I do understand the point of view of the parents interviewed in the blog but on the other hand its seems so unfair they are denying their children the opportunities that higher education brings...I'm surprised none of them mentioned feeling even a little guilty about that.

Sharon - posted on 04/22/2010

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Child led learning ... anything my kids are curious about we will investigate. 10,000 questions, 3 books of "answers" "the big book of questions" etc

To me, that is NOT unschooling and bears no resemblance to that descriptive phrase.

School has their curriculum... at home we have rules and schedules. Its not an anything goes situation. We indulge interests and curiousities AFTER schoolwork/homework has been completed.

Sarah - posted on 04/22/2010

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I don't think that unschooling is a good idea at all.
The children will have HUGE gaps in their knowledge an understanding.
I think they will also struggle later on in life with going to college or getting a job. If they have had no structure in their early years, it's going to be extremely difficult for them to obey the rules at work or to do essays on time at college etc.

I do like the idea of being able to explore the subjects you WANT to explore at school though. I wanted to do music and art, but was only allowed to choose one. I also wanted to R.S and History, but again was only allowed to do one. I had to take technology and PE as the other 2 which i HATED (and failed!). I think if kids had more options at Secondary school age, then they may come away with more grades. (sorry bit off topic!)

Unschooling seems to be a very extreme way of living, and i think in the end, it won't produce the results the parents are expecting.

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Unschooling is a valid method of homeschooling, but not in the extreme that the families in the article practice it. Other terms for unschooling is "delight directed" and "child led". It is not life with no rules, but learning naturally as things come up. The families that I know that successfully unschool are also the families I know that don't own a television or only use the TV for occasional video viewing, not as a form of daily diversion. -- That's not us!
My kids, both of 'em, learned to read and learned letter shapes by playing with toys, watching TV - regular old on-air and basic cable TV - and playing video and computer games!
I didn't/don't mind following their lead on science and history/social studies topics, but we use math and writing books - we use a grammar workbook, but they haven't really needed it. Reading comprehension is usually their choice from a list of literature units that I own.
Our son went on to do well in college. Our daughter is only in 3rd grade, but is doing most work above "grade level" - in workbooks!

Sharon - posted on 04/21/2010

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I don't view homeschooling in the same REALM as unschooling at all.

I view people who can homeschool - as awesome. I couldn't do it but I think its fantastic that others can.

But unschooling? leaving your children to their own devices for nearly 24 hours a day isn't schooling or parenting.

Ez - posted on 04/20/2010

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I've been seeing quite a lot mentioned about Unschooling on a couple of blogs I read, and I agree with Alison in that the examples in the news report definitely give it a bad name. Would I ever do it? No. But I think the correlation between Unschooling and a lack of rules or boundaries in the home is not necessarily accurate. From what I understand, Unschooling doesn't necessarily mean children running riot 24/7, just that the parents follow the child's lead in what they're going to learn about. These families seem to have some radical parenting ideas that are completely separate to their decision to Unschool.

Sharon - posted on 04/20/2010

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Its pure bullshit. The article I read about it - they asked the kids "do you think you're prepared for life outside of your home with your parents?" The answer was "no" and but that their mother & father figure it out for them.



lazy ass parents doing jackshit. The father said "so this way, we don't have as many rules." um yeah. dumbfuck. The kids are out all night, the mother was yelling "get off the table" through the interview...



lazy fkers.



life isn't like that. Your boss isn't going to drop you in the fry room and say "have at it"



Whats fecking awesome about this? They aren't even raising friggen burger king burger flippers. Without a highschool diploma what the hell are they going to do?



Unschooling my fecking ass. LAZY!

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I don't agree with this parenting style in any way, shape or form. It is setting up the child for unrealistic expectations later on in life. With that being said, I most certainly DO support homeschooling families, as long as they are dedicated to the education of their child and not just yanking their kids form school and letting them plop in front of the video games.

Iris - posted on 04/20/2010

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Not for my family. I would feel that I was ruining their future opportunities by un-schooling, at least the way these two families are doing it. Social skills too, is one of the reason I think it's important for kids to go to school. And I do think that kids need rules in their lives and guidens growing up in order to thrive in our society when they get older. Definitely not for me.

LaCi - posted on 04/20/2010

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I think some kids thrive in a less structures environment, some need the structure. It's a call you have to make based on your own child's needs, IMO, and with each individual child if you have more than one. I think kids that are self motivated and academically driven could thrive moving at their own pace and doing what interests them, but kids tend to not be academically driven or motivated and usually need the structure to keep them on track.

As for no rules or boundaries, I think having fewer rules could benefit a child, they could be more outgoing as the would have a tendency to not think of consequences which CAN be a good thing in many situations. I think there should always be SOME rules... don't kill your sister, don't play in household chemicals, so on.

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Unschooling means different things to different people. The concept of unschooling seems to have been hijacked by parents who want to let their kids do whatever they like. I sure some parents who have simply chosen to do away with a curriculum, but still teach their children academic subjects and set rules would be pretty ticked off with this other type of unschooler.

ME - posted on 04/20/2010

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The kids seemed normal enough, but they also didn't ask them any academic questions. In a world where a college degree is an increasing necessity, I feel it is irresponsible for a "parent" to leave their children unprepared for the world of adulthood!

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