war on women

Christina - posted on 08/26/2012 ( 7 moms have responded )

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I keep hearing this term being used by candidates for the up coming election... It has been followed by women's rights including but not limited to abortion and equal pay... these arent new topics some states have made new laws on abortion or heath care and even pay or benifits for women at work... I was just wonder what your opinons are on this and also what you think of the terms the candidates are using... do you feel your rights are in danger?

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Rosie - posted on 08/28/2012

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i believe there is definitely an undeclared war on women by the republican party. none supported the pay equity bill which in conjunction with the lily ledbetter fair pay act makes it so women can't be retaliated against when inquiring about pay disparities, and opens pathways to sue for punitive damage in case of pay discrimination.

there have introduced bills that would give birth control for wild horses-yet oppose legislation that makes it so all insurance companies cover bc for actual human women.

by defunding planned parenthood they would be causing deaths of both women and babies, but hey, as long as some abortion is being stopped, who gives a shit about those unpleasant side effects.

they have introduced bills to change the terminology of victims of rape, domestic violence, and stalking to "accusor", but less gender defined crimes like burglary would still be "victims"



in south dakota republicans introduced a bill to make it LEGAL to murder an abortion provider.



in congress republicans have a bill that would have hospitals be able to allow a woman to die rather than provide a life saving abortion.



in maryland republicans ended funding for a low income preschool. why? they say there is no need for it, women should be at home with the kids, and not working.



personhood laws have been passed in some states, making it so all stages of fetus including embryonic would have the same rights as everyone else. it would also make it so some types of birth control (like the pill) would be illegal since they make it so fertilized eggs cannot implant.



paul ryan supports legislation that makes aboriton illegal in cases of rape or incest. he also feels that the rapist should have rights as a "father"



so to summarize, wild horses family planning is more important to republicans, women should stay at home with their kids they're forced to have because they can't get access to birth control because it's illegal, and if you somehow manage to escape having an unplanned pregnancy and end up working-you shouldn't get paid the same amount as a man for doing the same job. oh and if you get raped you'll be called an "accusor" in stead of victim, and be forced to carry your rapists baby and give him fatherly access to your child once you have it.

no war on women my ass.

Lady Heather - posted on 08/27/2012

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I'd be worried. I don't use birth control. I'm not going to have an abortion. But I have daughters and my friends have daughters and my family members have daughters and all these girls have to grow up in the world we create for them. I wouldn't want to leave them with a place that says they can kill rape sperm with their magical vag juices so too bad for getting knocked up, you obviously liked it.



Frankly, I'm worried and I don't live there. I can't believe some of the shit that is getting said right now. And it's so true. Why are these the hot button issues? This is the most important thing going on right now? We're all economically fucked so let's worry about birth control and abortions and gay people? COME ON.

Krista - posted on 08/27/2012

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I think that womens' rights in the US are very much in danger. The laws being passed and the rhetoric being used are extremely alarming. This is no longer simply about abortion -- this is about a fundamental disrespect and disdain for women. The Republican party has made it quite clear that they do not trust American women to make their own decisions regarding their fertility, and hence, those decisions must be made by politicians instead. All of the things that have been said, and all of the laws that have been passed, have made it crystal clear that in their view, women have no morals or ethics and cannot be trusted.



We do not want to go back to the days when couples had no way to time their children. It would effectively remove the vast majority of women from the workforce, making us all financially dependent upon our spouses...and hence, powerless. Do we really want to go back to those days?

Mary - posted on 08/26/2012

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Is there a "war" on women? I'm not so sure that it's so much anti-woman, as it is a disturbing trend by a rather vocal group in society to control certain "moral" issues in accordance with their religiously-dictated morality. It seems like a reactionary response to the slow, but subtle realization of what separation of church and state really means in an era where more and more citizens are less controlled by religious institutions and their leaders (of any faith).



I've also come to the gradual realization that the ultra-conservative leaders are using many of these emotionally charged issues to rally the more fanatical factions of their bases, while simultaneously distracting them from really examining issues such as the economy or international affairs. It's a very effective tactic; I've encountered many fool who is so caught up in these "moral" issues that they really have no clue or care about that candidate's stance on much more fundamental and, imo, more pressing issues that impact the future and well-being of society as a whole.



For example, I've noticed more than a few people who are so focused on a candidate's stand related to abortion, same-sex marriage, or religious "rights" that they fail to realize just how negatively that candidate's healthcare policy, or benefits cuts/taxes would impact their own personal situation. All they are focused on is how in-sync so-and-so's proclamations are with whatever hot-button topic.

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i don't really think we ever got equality and don't see a day when we will necessarily have equality. it will take at least a few generations, if it ever happens. womens rihts are always in danger because there are men out there who feel threatened by women and will do anything they can to hold them down (not all guys but some guys). i'm not gonna hold my breath for some overly, possibly fake, religious old white guy to uphold any of my rights. even the laws that are in place to suppsedly protect women aren't really all that effective.

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I don't mind the term given the recent news on republican policy concerning women:



Todd Aiken says that women can turn their ability to get pregnant off during a rape, so rape victims don't really need access to abortion services. (http://fox2now.com/2012/08/19/the-jaco-r... Scroll down and watch the 3rd video to see him actually say it)



Jan Brewer, the governor of Arizona just signed a law into effect that states that pregnancy begins 2 weeks BEFORE conception. (http://www.examiner.com/article/new-law-...)



Back in March, Georgia representative compared women carrying stillborn babies in womb to chickens and pigs giving birth to stillborn livestock. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/09/ge...)



Those are just the first 3 issues I can think of off the top of my head. What is scary for women, is that the people who hold these views are in powerful positions; they have the power (As Gov. Brewer has shown) to create laws and policies that severely impact women's rights.

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