What is this world comming too

Shauna - posted on 01/05/2011 ( 31 moms have responded )

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http://www.ketv.com/news/26377630/detail...

1 hour ago in my town, there was yet another shooting in a local highschool.
Why do so many kids have so much hate!? this is happening over and over again.
A couple years ago it was the von maur shooting in my town. I dont get it.

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JuLeah - posted on 01/06/2011

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Kids reflect society. They are showing us what we have become. If we don't like what we see, we need to make changes.

It is heartbreaking to watch such things unfold. A school shooting happened in my hometown - many tears.

When the question is asked, "What are you personally doing to change things?" And, each person spoken to has an answer, things will change. It will take all of us, as it should; this is our community, these are our kids, this is our country, this is the mess 'we the people' created. It is ours to clean up.

Isobel - posted on 01/06/2011

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if the guys at columbine had knives a WHOLE lot of those kids would still be alive.

Isobel - posted on 01/06/2011

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if people start using cars and bleach to commit mass murders...yeah, I'll probably start saying they should be regulated.

The fertilizer one is tough...cause yeah, people make bombs out of it...then I say regulate the publishing of books telling people how to blow other people up.

Sarah - posted on 01/06/2011

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Yeah I agree that parents, and society as a whole need to try and work out why, and parents especially need to bring up their children the best they can to try and avoid such tragedies.......BUT.......if we took away one of the most dangerous "tools" in the mean time, it WOULD help lower the rates of people being able to go out shooting rampages.

September - posted on 01/05/2011

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I think things like this happen for several reasons... lack of parenting, bulling, not knowing how to deal with ones emotions and lack of resources to do so. It's really sad!

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Soky - posted on 01/17/2011

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To be honest.. MTV have made it seem "OKAY" to have much hate... if you dont beleive me watch one of the shows that is on there. I believe it does have a lot to do with kids now adays. Before it use to play music videos and kids were pretty calm back when.. also YOUTUBE break.com and other video siteshas a lot on it too.. not that Im trying to say bad things about it or whatever I know I have seen lots of fight videos on there and it just gets teenagers all rowdy. Plus I think that now adays parents cant really stay home with their kids and get them off the TV or interenet and spend some quality family time together. I think if there was a strong family grounds that the teens wouldnt do any of this unless they were mentally unstable.

Jenny - posted on 01/06/2011

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It's not the easy access to dangerous weapons but it sure makes it easier. There seems to be a discontent occuring across the board. I think it has to do with points made in my post about inequality. We are seperating ourselves so much from each other and than are surprised when we act in violent ways. If we were to return to an environment of community and support one another I believe we would see our youth (and adults) acting less violently. It's just all of this buy this, buy that, we're going to war, get a job, why isn't there any jobs just general clusterfuck of an existance we have going on. We need to slow down, get back to basics and remember how to live simply and to live WITH each other.

Shauna - posted on 01/06/2011

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Its illegal for a felon to own any sort of weapon, however most felons own many. People will find a way to get things that shouldnt be so easy in the first place. Just like people find a way to get weapons inside buildings that were deemed safe, and impossible to get past security. Nothings impossible.

Shauna - posted on 01/06/2011

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In the 911 tradgedy, they only had "box cutters" and look how many people died.

Sarah - posted on 01/06/2011

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No, they're not made for the sole purpose of killing people.
Obviously, crime and murders are still going to happen, even if guns are illegal. I just think (and it's probably my British nature coming out!) that if you make guns illegal......gun crime goes down, and that's a fact. So it's a no brainer for me.

Sharon - posted on 01/06/2011

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Then we take away personal cars? Bleach? Fertilizer and fencing materials?

Sharon - posted on 01/06/2011

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We're still blaming the tool.

Who is really to blame here?

Bad parenting?

Society?

These things will still happen. People will just find other tools. Their car. No few people have rammed their car into crowds or buildings. Pipe bombs. Easy enough to make with household chemicals.

We need to solve WHY this happens. Not how. These people are still angry, still in pain. THAT is what needs to be fixed.

Sarah - posted on 01/06/2011

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I think the thing with guns as opposed to machetes or knives etc, is that you can kill so many MORE people with a gun.
When it comes to school shootings, we just don't have them over here, you can't go on a rampage and shoot a load of innocent bystanders. (not saying it's never happened, but it's rare)

As for suicides, I don't really think the amount of guns makes much a difference, there's loads of ways to do it without a gun.

Sharon - posted on 01/06/2011

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A few years back we lost 4 kids who where playing "chicken" on dirt bikes. They crashed head on into one another. (2 kids on each bike). We then had 3 suicides over the following year. 1 girlfriend, 1 sibling, then a friend of the girlfriend who committed suicide. All of them by stepping out into traffic on the highway near where the first few kids died by accident.

Monkey see, monkey do.

Its not the guns making these kids commit suicide or kill other people. In china they attack with machetes or acid or other household implements.

Shauna - posted on 01/06/2011

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Ive wanted to watch it just never got around to it-----i agree gun violence is out of control in america. Guns are so easy to get ahold of.
When i was around 11 or 12 my dad felt the need to take me out and learn how to shoot a handgun it scared the crap out of me but he thought i needed to know.
We had guns loaded in our house all over, not locked up.
I was a very depressed young girl, when i tried telling my parents they didnt believe me. Just thought i was being a brat. I tried shooting myself in the head with one of my dads handguns however i could not get the safety off of the gun. When i told my parents about the incident they still didnt believe me. It took me refusing to go to school one day my senior year and demanding my mother take me to a dr or counsler b/c i knew i needed help. And i got it. -------Just from my experience i think parents need to be more aware of their childrens activitys and listen to what their child has to say!
When i was in highschool so many kids commited suicide over such stupid reasons. One kid did it b/c he got a MIP ticket. He was too scared to tell his parents so he shot himself with a shotgun. One guy laid himself on a train track after his girlfriend broke up with him.
I just think it is so important to have an open relationship with your parents and let your child know they can talk to you about anything!
I could not do this with my parents, i never felt comfortable talking to them.

Sara - posted on 01/06/2011

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I think you do have to look at other cultures that have less gun violence and ask yourself why our culture has so much. Canada, GB, Australia, all have significantly less gun violence than the US. Maybe it's our attitudes about guns or violence in general. Anybody ever seen "Bowling for Columbine"?

Shauna - posted on 01/06/2011

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The assisant principle ended up dying today from gunshot wound to the head. The principle is still in serious condition. The assistant that died is my best friends MIL. This happens so often around here. And usually goes in spurts. 1 kid does it so the rest follow. They interviewed several kids and he was never picked on he was very popular and in disbelief. he left a note on his facebook saying : For everyone who knows the real me, dont judge me for what i have done today, remember me for who i was. - he drove 2 miles away and shot himself in his car. LIke most cases they always take their lives.

----when i was in highschool we had 7 suicides my junior year. SAD

Charlie - posted on 01/05/2011

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Meh , we don't have a gun fetish here so these kind of things do not tend to happen ( once upon a time maybe ) but not now , sad really .

Nikkole - posted on 01/05/2011

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its always the quiet ones you gotta worry about ;) no but really any kid can have issues maybe he was depressed or fighting (as my mother in law says demons). He probably got the gun from his dad (stole it i mean)!

September - posted on 01/05/2011

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I do realize that Julianne which is why I noted lack of parenting first. I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that comment but thanks for pointing out the obvious :)

Shauna - posted on 01/05/2011

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Maybe he was just upset that his parents circumsized him as a baby :-/

Shauna - posted on 01/05/2011

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This kid was "a good kid" "straight A kid" And local police Detectives Son

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September, bulling and not knowing how to deal with ones emotions are both side effects of bad parents. Our job is to teach our children to be respectful of other people, and to deal with emotions.

Bonnie - posted on 01/05/2011

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I agree with Julianne in that parents are not being parents. Not enough parents are spending enough time with their kids and not enough are teaching them right from wrong.

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