What should be done with pedophiles?

Tanya - posted on 06/19/2010 ( 40 moms have responded )

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In one thread here on debating mums someone said pedophiles so be sterilized and even put to death. What do you think should happen to them.

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Sharon - posted on 06/19/2010

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True pedophiles should be killed.

They cannot be rehabilitated. This isn't about control for them. Rapists do it for control, for creating fear, pedophiles think children are sexy and think that children want what the pedophile is doing to them.

Some of the stuff I've read by pedophiles say they are born this way, like homosexuals. SOME claim they are attracted to small children because they were abused as children. Which to me is PURE bullshit.

I would be happy to be on the firing squad that sends all pedophiles back to their maker.

Killing pedophiles is more like extermination. We are simply returning defective merchandise back to the creator. He gets to decide what to do with it. I'm misquoting a couple of people in those statements.

Sara - posted on 06/20/2010

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The recidivism rate for pedophiles is over 99%. If I ever found out anyone was hurting a child like that, or walked in on something like that happening, I don't think I'd be able to control myself...I would attack and I'd want to kill them! I honestly just don't think that people like that have any place in society. I can't say that I think for certain they should be put to death, but I think they should be ostracized from society and should pay, forever, for what they have done. I think that everyone should be make aware that someone is a pedophile, maybe it will drive them to suicide. Sorry, I have zero sympathy for anyone who would hurt a child.

Caitlin - posted on 06/19/2010

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I'm all for the death penalty on this one. Why should my tax dollars be spent to keep these worms alive.. If there is evidence and they are convicted, there should be no appeals, no waiting a few years before it happens.. You are convicted, you get to say your goodbyes, you get your last meal, then you fry..

If someone seeks treatment before they offend then great, I have no problem with my tax dollars going to preventatively treat, but if they slip and offend.. bye bye.. I'm all for capital punishment, I think there should be electric bleachers, because bulk is always best.. (Strange how i'm canadian..)

Johnny - posted on 06/19/2010

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I completely agree with Erin. I think once they have completed their jail time in a regular facility, they should be placed in a secured "community" where they would never ever have access to any child. I have never seen anything, research papers or studies, that has suggested the these perpetrators can be rehabilitated. And so many of them now like to compare their "right to love children" with the rights of same sex couples. Ugh. The fact that they can not understand the concept of consent just demonstrates that they are totally and utterly incorrigible and should not be allowed to walk our streets.

I also think that if pedophiles were locked away forever, it would be a serious deterrent to those who have those urges. Anything that would make them avoid offending would be completely worthwhile.

And the cycle of victims becoming abusers might be broken somewhat. If each pedophile was locked away and unable to re-offend, there would be less victims. If the deterrence aspect worked, there also might be less victims. So I believe it could really have a strong impact on the rates of pedophilia.

I still do not understand why current laws are designed to allow these people to walk free. I can not believe that people are willing to risk the damage to children.

I am completely and totally opposed to capital punishment though. It is barbaric and there is no evidence that it works to deter people any more than prison. It makes us no better than the criminals. The concept of "an eye for an eye" makes us all blind.

Ez - posted on 06/19/2010

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I don't believe paedophiles are capable of rehabilitation. They will always have the urges even if they have admitted their wrong-doing and shown remorse.

I actually saw an episode of Oprah recently where Lisa Ling went to a secure treatment facility for paedophiles who had completed their jail time but were still identified as risks to the community. I would love to see something like this here, for all convicted paedos. They don't belong in mainstream society. They will never be 'rehabilitated' enough for that.

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Jackie - posted on 06/23/2010

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I think they should let the parents of the children ( and any other parent that wants a piece) performa public stoning like in midevil times. Then cut off their peckers and let them bleed to death. But because we are too civilized for such things (and I mean "we" in general. I "myself" would not be so civilized if it came to my kids) let em ride the lightening ASAP

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Sterilizing is a good idea..... honestly, lots and lots of jail time, with no early parole, restraining order against him from being around were kids hang out

Nicole - posted on 06/22/2010

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agree with what krista said but those who have acted on it need to have it cut off with a blunt knife and locked up for the rest of there lives.and that goes for woman too

Lyndsay - posted on 06/22/2010

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I think they should be put to death. I don't think they should be given any mercy whatsoever. If not the death penalty, give them a lobotomy. Make them vegetables incapable of doing anything, ever.

You can sterilize them, they can still abuse. You can chop off their dicks, they can still abuse. You can send them to jail, which seems like the humane thing to do, but jail isn't really so much of a punishment. I know a lot of people who have been in jail and even in the penitentiaries, and its nothing. In the pen you're allowed to work for money, order things through the mail, and have a television and video game system in your cell/house. That is too good for these people.

Meghan - posted on 06/21/2010

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Inform ALL the other prisoners of why they are in jail and leave the creep alone with them.

Becky - posted on 06/21/2010

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I was thinking the same thing, Jocelyn! Excellent idea! Let's just use pedophiles and other violent criminals as lab rats!

LaCi - posted on 06/21/2010

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"You take the entire state of Kansas. You move everybody out. You give them a couple of hundred dollars for their inconvinience, you know. Got to be fair. And then, you move them out, you put a big ten story electric fence around Kansas and Kansas becomes a permanent prison farm for violent criminals."



Well there goes half our good tornado chasing... how bout we do arizona instead? It's border control! ;D

Jodi - posted on 06/21/2010

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Remember whatsisname Bobbit? If the death penalty doesn't apply, then that sounds pretty good to me.

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I agree with the death sentence for paedophiles, its the only sure way to stop them ever hurting any child again.

Shelley - posted on 06/21/2010

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To bring balance to the Debate.
Every man is someone's son, father, brother or family member and every woman is someone's daughter mother sister or family member.
No matter what our children do in life we will love them and not want awful things to be done to them.
The other point is when do we decide who is able to be rehabilitated do we hang the 4 year old boy that was abused because statistics state that he will more than likely offend when he reaches adulthood.
Having said that i don't want them living next door to me i think that adult sexual offenders should get life in jail.

Jocelyn - posted on 06/21/2010

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You know what Laci? You gave me a great idea! Let's gather all the pedophiles and use them for all the medical/physical/experimental testing! That way they would be put to good use and kept out of general society. Our tax dollars would still be going towards them, but at least we would be getting something out of it. And then we can free all of the poor little animals! I think I am on to something here!

Tanya - posted on 06/21/2010

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Here's another idea. I'm going to save you a whole lot of money on prisons, but at the same time we are still going to remove from society many of our more annoying citizens. Four groups are going away permanently.

First group: Violent criminals. Here's what you do with these Emmy award winners. You take the entire state of Kansas. You move everybody out. You give them a couple of hundred dollars for their inconvinience, you know. Got to be fair. And then, you move them out, you put a big ten story electric fence around Kansas and Kansas becomes a permanent prison farm for violent criminals. No parole, no police, no supplies, the only thing you give them is lethal weapons and live ammunition, so they can communicate in a meaningful way. Then you put the whole thing on Cable TV. The Violence Network, VNN. And for a corporate sponsor, you get one of those companies that loves to smear it's logo feces all over the landscape. Budweiser will jump at this shit in half a minute.

Alright, next group: sex criminals. Completely incurable, you got to lock them up. You could outlaw religion and in most cities sex crimes would disappear in a couple of generations. But we don't have time for rational solutions! Much easier to fence off another rectangular state. Rectangular states are cheaper to fence, saves the taxpayers money, you know? This time Wyoming. But only for true sex offenders. We're not going to bother consenting adults who liike to dress up in leather boy scout uniforms and smash each other in the head with ballpeen(?) hammers while they take turns blowing their cat. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. It's a victimless hobby. And think of how good the cat must feel! No, we're only going to lock up rapists and molesters. Those hopless romantics. Who're so full of love they can't help getting a little of it on you. Usually on your leg. You take all of these heavy breathing fun seekers, and you stick them in Wyoming. And you let them suck, fuck, and fondle, you let them blow, chew, sniff lick whip gobble and cornhole each other, until their testicles are whistling 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful'! And, and you turn on the cameras and you've got The Sperm Channel! And don't forget our corporate sponsor, we're going to let Budweiser put little logo patches on the rapist's pant right here, 'This Bud's for you'!

Alright, next group: Drug addicts and alcoholics. Not all of them, don't get nervous. Just the ones who are making life difficult for at least one other person. And we're not going to bother first offenders. People deserve a chance to clean up. Everyone will get... twelve chances to clean up. Alright, fifteen! Fifteen! that's fine, and that's it, if you can't make it in fifteen tries, off you go *fwit* to Colorado! Colorado! The perfect- a perfect place for staying loaded. Each week, all of the illegal drugs confiscated in the United States - that the police and D.E.A. don't keep for their own personal use - will be air-dropped into Colorado. And we're going to turn the Coors brewery over to the beer-drinking assholes, and everyone can stay wasted wired stoned bombed hammered smashed and shitfaced round the clock on another new cable channel, Shitface Central 'This is the real Rocky Mountain HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH!!!

Ok I've saved my favorite group for last. The maniacs and crazy people. Yeah. The ones who live out where the buses don't run. And I distinguish between maniacs and crazy people. A maniac will beat nine people to death with a steel dildo. A crazy person will beat nine people to death with a steel dildo, but he'll be wearing a Bugs Bunny suit at the time. So you can't put them all away. You know you got to keep some of them around just for the entertainment. Like a guy who tells you the King of Sweden is using his penis as a radio transmitter to send anti-semitic lesbian meatloaf recipies to Soupy Sales and Marvin Hamlisch. A guy like that you want to give him his own radio show. No, the maniac farm will be reserved strictly for hopeless cases. Like a guy who gets a big tatoo on his chest of Liza Minnelli taking a shit, you know? And he tells you if he wiggles a certain way it looks like she's wiping her ass, you know? A guy like that, you want to get him into custody as quickly as possible. Now, for the maniac farm, I think there's no question we got to go with Utah. Utah. Easy to fence. Easy to fence. Right next to Wyoming and Colorado and Colorado is right next to Kansas, and that means all four groups of our most amusing citizens are now in one place.

Except for the big fences. And I think I have another one of my really good ideas for Cable TV. Gates. Small sliding gates in the fences. Think of what you've got here. Think of what you've got. Predators, degenerates, crackheads and fruitcakes. Nine hundred miles of fence seperating them. Every fifty miles you put a small sliding gate. But, the gates are only ten inches wide and they're only open once a month... for seven seconds. And you know something? Fuck Cable, this shit has got to be on Pay-Per-View. Because, if those gates are only open seven seconds a month, you are going to have some mighty interesting people pushing and shoving to be first in line. Deeply disturbed armed cranky lunatics on drugs. You know the ones. Lot of tatoos... lot of teeth broken off at the gumline... the true face of America. And every time you open the gates, some of the more aggressive ones are going to get through. The creme de la creme. The alphas. They're going to get through, they're going to find each other and they're going to cross-breed. And pretty soon you'll have a melting pot. Child killers corpse fuckers drug zombies and full-blown wack-a-loons. Wandering the landscape in search of truth and fun. Just like now! Everyone will have guns, everyone will have drugs, and no one will be in charge. Just like now! But at least we'll have a balanced budget.

Tanya - posted on 06/21/2010

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Yeah I think that they should let the prisoner in general have at each other. Not in juvi, but with the big boy sure. Put all the gangs together and the child molester and let them sort it out. I bet we wouldn't be spending nearly as much on prisons in a year.

I do remember I wanna say that it was George Carlin talking about taking the all and putting them in different towns. Murders in one. Rapist in another. and I can't remember the other two. Then once a year the gates would open and you could run into one of the other towns. We could put it on pay pre view to pay for the whole thing

Zoe - posted on 06/20/2010

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i am with becky death is too good fro people like this. they should be put into general population prisons with the murderers instead of being segregated and the guards ahould turn a blind eye when they get a good kicking

LaCi - posted on 06/20/2010

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life in prison with no opportunity to get out. I believe in certain instances that death can be more humane, I think they could be given the option. Do you want to be locked away forever, or would you rather be put down? I don't believe in the death penalty as a sentence, but possibly as an option for the individual.

I think they should be studied. We've only recently discovered brain abnormalities in pedophiles. I think it's something we need to research, something we need to attempt to understand. We say there's no rehabilitation but if it is in fact something neurological there COULD someday be effective methods of treatment. This is one reason I don't believe in the death penalty, I think when you eliminate the people who are committing the most heinous of crimes you're eliminating an opportunity to study them and figure out if there is something that can be done. Maybe there isn't anything at all, but MAYBE there is and it could benefit our society someday far in the future.

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There's only one answer in my eyes... death! They are a total waste of oxygen and tax payer dollars. Of course I mean ones who have been convicted, not someone seeking help for thoughts.

Every so often there's a news story here about a convicted paedophile, who can't seem to find a place to live. He's been moved at least 4 times that I know of, always to government funded housing! As soon as the neighbourhood gets wind of him being there, they all start protesting out the front of his house effectively making him a prisoner in his own home. BUT, he's totally living on taxpayer funds. The house is government owned, so he pays no rent and he gets welfare money, PLUS charities bring him food!!! He's been convicted more than once, served his time and is supposed to be 'normal' again, yet photos surfaced of him at the beach ogling kids! Oh, and one house he was given was a couple doors down from a primary school! I hope the flunky that championed that move was fired.

That man deserves to be put down. For his, and our, own good. Can you imagine the resources that have already been spent on him?!

If they were to be put on an island, they would have to be totally self sufficient. No taxpayer money for funding. Build their own dwellings, farm their own food, etc. Sounds a bit like the beginnings of Australia! lol

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I think death is appropriate! I would not like my tax dollars to pay for them to waste space in a cell getting 3 meals/dy and medical tx when needed...

Becky - posted on 06/19/2010

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Ugh! In my opinion, there is no punishment low enough for these scum. I don't believe in the death penalty, and anyways, I think death is too good for them. I think that whatever they have done to their victims, they should have done to them, by much larger men, over, and over, over again.
I'm normally a pretty compassionate and forgiving person, but there aren't even words to describe the disgust I feel for people who hurt children, especially pedophiles.

Tanya - posted on 06/19/2010

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Yeah I would have to say that if you were a repeat offend ( meaning 2 times) you should be done.

Rosie - posted on 06/19/2010

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kill em, they do not contribute in any good way to society. of course it is too bad that they actually would have to offend first before this, but like krista i can't see killing someone for just having thoughts, no matter how skeevy they are.
their own private island does sound good, but i just can't stand the thought of them being able to fantasise about the child they raped over and over again. imagine if that was your child. makes me want to puke.

*Lisa* - posted on 06/19/2010

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Ahh this topic always has me torn. For the pedophiles that say 'I have a right to love little kids' and see nothing wrong with it, they definitely should have some sort of kid-free community to live in. They are not safe!
But there are those who make mistakes. I know the rate of being cured is very low, but I do think they, as any human being, deserve a second chance and access to help. I know of a councilor who deals primarily with catholic priests who have abused kids. He's actually seeing results. It's such a touchy topic. I also know personally a man who was 17 when he molested an 8 year old. Very horrible. But it has never happened since he was treated and that was almost 10 years ago now. He's now living a 'normal' life with 'normal' girlfriends etc. I just don't think that any of us have the right to kill another human being for something that we think is incurable when we really have little understanding of it. I still think it is the most evil thing to do on the planet and my stomach churns whenever I hear about it, but if people can be re-habilitated, then I think they deserve that chance. It's case by case.

ME - posted on 06/19/2010

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Life without the possibility of parole. I don't actually support the death penalty for any reason...but these people are almost never
"cured"...so, let them sit in prison for ever!

Elisabeth - posted on 06/19/2010

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If anyone touched my little girls like that they better hope they have the death sentance before I can get my hands on them!

Jessica - posted on 06/19/2010

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lol I'm Canadian to Caitlin, glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. :)

Krista - posted on 06/19/2010

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You guys are probably right. I think I've read that rates for rehabilitation are very low. I just can't feel comfortable with the idea of putting someone in jail for their thoughts, though. But by the same token, obviously you don't want to wait until they actually HAVE hurt a kid before you remove them from society. I suppose something like that secure treatment facility would probably be the best solution, in that case.

Rachelle - posted on 06/19/2010

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I think killing any criminal of any sort is just putting them out of a miserable life in jail, letting them off. I would rather be dead then sit in jail for the rest of my life. I think they should be put in jail for life, no chance of parole and no visitors EVER. Thats a real punishment. I think if they are not in jail they should be sterilized but that will never happen unfortunately, so they should not be allowed to keep children, nor be around or live in home with children. I believe personally God is the only person to determine when we are to be taken out of this world, no matter what we have done but I believe they shouls suffer and rot in prison, with no privledges prison seems to provide these days. Or as my father used to say, take all the straight pedifiles and put them in a room with huge Gay rapists and let them go at them everyday lol and vice versa for the gay pedifiles haha. Kidding, just trying to lighten the mood, that obviously is rediculas but aside from the jokes, they are discusting human beings and ruin poor childrens lives in many ways and should pay for the rest of theirs.

Jessica - posted on 06/19/2010

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I still think Capital Punishment should still exist for really horrible crimes, and convicted pedophiles fall into that catagory for me...I dont care how harsh that sounds.

Erin - posted on 06/19/2010

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@ Erin I saw that Oprah too. Wasn't it an island or something? I thought that is a perfect place for them. All of them should go there or be shot on the spot, either one would be ok with me!

Tanya - posted on 06/19/2010

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I believe in jail. I also don't think they should be put on lock down. If someone in jail gets them for what they have done I wouldn't be sad.

Krista - posted on 06/19/2010

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It depends, I suppose. If they have pedophilic urges, but have not acted upon them, and are seeking help, then a low-grade form of chemical castration combined with behavioural therapy would probably do nicely, so that they are no longer consumed by those urges and can hopefully live a normal life.

For anybody who has ACTED upon those urges and hurt an innocent child? Jail. For life. With no chance of parole.

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